There's nothing we can do to stop bush: True or False?

[mopaul]

i hate the attitude that there's nothing we can do to stop neoconazis from destroying america. 'oh well, we'll just vote him out in four years', or, 'what are ya gonna do, the g.o.p. controls everything', or, 'we'll appeal to the moderate christian conservatives and then everything will be fine'.

is it true, or is it an illusion that there's NOTHING we can do to stop maniacs from setting off world war three or four?

do we all still remember that THEY work for US? that they take orders from US, and not the other way around?

have we all forgotten that it is our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to remove despots and monarchs and dictators from our government?

[ixion]

1. there's always things you can do to change the reality of a situation

but whether those things happen or not is another matter.

Sure, we could organize into a vast coalition and make our voices heard, and bring about a watershed.

Will that happen? Most likely not.

Why? Because most people are neutrons. That is, they are not disposed to doing anything that might disrupt the status quo.

T'was ever thus, although it's never had to be that way. :-(

[rodeodance]

2. it is the taking time-everyday-to spend 5-10 minutes writing letters/email

to your legislatures, your Senators, editors--the everyday contant critique that counts. Yes, things CAN change.

[cyclezealot]

3. Only hope is showing rage to legislators..

That they might be defeated...If Diebolt holds our elections; then they can fear nothing.

[LiberallyInclined]

5. a HUGE march on Washington might do the trick.

take BACK our government.

[fasttense]

17. You are absolutely right. We need to march on DC and Not leave

until we get answers.

[cyclezealot]

24. Don't forget the soldiers' pension riots of the 20's.

It was no less than a young Gen. McArthur who turned the guns on WWI vetrans in DC...We will be slaughtered like cattle if we challenge the powers that be to a certain breaking point.

[DistressedAmerican]

4. The Second American Revolution Is Way Overdue!

[liberal N proud]

6. There is a Congressional Election in 2006

We can do everything possible to get the Democrats back in power in both the Senate and House, then we can get the Son of a Bitch and his partners in crime.
Everyone must start NOW! we can not wait until 2006 to beat these bastards.

[Cooley Hurd]

7. False, but we'll have to wait another 3 1/2 years...

Of course, by then I'll be Mad Max, foraging for gas...

[Discord]

8. TRUE.

Until religious people on both sides wake up and stand up against their cousins in search of power and control. This country is done for. They are using God as a way to sedate the masses. For the Fundies and other religious extremists are untouchable as long as people, Repug and Dem alike cannot bite the bullet. Which I know will never happen. They are using the same protection afforded to all the liberal christians, to protect the fundamentalist movement.

We cannot target them, without targeting all religion. And as long as good people continue to protect their little slice of the God pie, we cannot stop them.

[bryant69]

12. Good plan. Targeting religion. That'll show 'em.

[Discord]

14. not a good plan. the only one.

keep on defending your slice of the God pie. Its only a matter of time until they come for you too.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=104&ItemID=7569

says all I need to know about what religion is doing to this country. I highly recommend reading it.

It would officially make this country a Theocracy.

Keep protecting it at everyones peril.

[LiberallyInclined]

18. church-going DUers are the ones who can start the ball rolling...

organize our own "townhall"-style meetings in YOUR respective churches- educate the congregation- and spread the truth.

[Discord]

21. they are the ones we are relying on to get the ball rolling

but it seems they are too interested in defending their institutions than protecting the rights and freedoms of this country.

[merbex]

9. True;B* doesn't give a flying f... about 99.9% of Americans

His administration REIGNS over us

The response he's getting to Social Security must be driving him nuts

[demnan]

10. Not much we can do

unless we overthrow the corporate masters who select and maintain our government.

The solution is so radical I have say we are not ready for it yet.

[Discord]

15. no. we a re not ready yet, and wont be until AFTER its too late.

[robcon]

11. I think you are mistaken

mopaul wrote: "do we all still remember that THEY work for US? that they take orders from US, and not the other way around?"

Since when? Please let me know when administrations or legislatures have ever "taken orders" from "us."

Bush won the election. The Senate and House are majority Republican. Whom do you think they "take orders" from?

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[AG78]

13. True

What would we do, storm Washington? Yeah, lets try that one. Maybe in 1780.

Everyone just stop going to work and shut the system down? Can't let the kids go hungry.

As long as we have to play the game the way it is set up today, the only thing you can do is put up millions upon millions of dollars into a faction. But the more that happens, what happens to whatever democracy is?

You can write an angry letter or two. But unless you have someone on the inside with any power, does it really matter? The Family Values Council(or whatever the hell it's called) can write letters to this or that institution and get something done. But that faction controls the media and government. How did they come to control those institutions? Had very rich men pour billions of dollars into a movement for decades.

Everyone knows the people in Washington do not work for us. It's an ideal. It's a sweet thought. If anyone still believes that, it's just downright cute.

There are always things that can be done. But I doubt many people will take the chance of being hungry, poor, and homeless to get it accomplished. I'll join, but I don't have kids to feed. Or a pregnant wife. Or any serious illness. Or some great career. And I'm still young enough to think it could actually make a difference.

[newportdadde]

16. Against Bush himself.. right now... there isn't much we can do.

Impeachment isn't going to happen with this Congress.

You could write your Senators and Representative unless your like me and have Bond, Talent and Graves, then you might as well take those emails/letter and phone calls and insert them rectally because they just don't give two shits.. hell Bond never even wrote me back a go away email like the other two did.

I see two possibilities for change...

1) Somehow protest and get the damn MSM to actually go after Bush, we don't even need a protest if they would just do their fucking job. Given Bush's low numbers he is so ripe for them to beat on yet they hold back.

2) Work to get Democrats elected to Congress and Govenor positions in 2006. In fact this is critically we desperately need to win some ground. Americans like winners, they like to bandwagon we need to come off a winner in 2006, not only to get us more power, but to set the stage for 2008.

[ArkDem]

19. Your knowledge of government is remarkable.

[mopaul]

20. thanks, to mrs. ramey, my history teacher

i remind you, i'm a giant brain in a tank, don't pick on the disabled.

[catmandu57]

22. I'm just playing out my string

There's not a damn thing we can do to stop any of this shit, that time has came and passed. We're going to be in the shit later this year, if anyone can't see it coming they'de better go get their fucking eyes checked.
These fuckers have the power and they aren't going to give it up, not without a fight, and if I said what I really think needs to be done, I'd be tombstoned quick fast and in a fucking hurry.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. You're right

They've been waiting for years for this and now they have all the government and control EVERYTHING. There's no way they're going to give this up nor the Diebold stuff. We're doomed.

[OneBlueSky]

23. true . . . UNLESS Democratic leaders stop enabling his agenda . . .

and start calling him on his administration's crimes . . . such as stealing two elections, the illegal invasion of Iraq, ignoring international treaties approved by the Senate (and therefore US law), and about a thousand other things . . . if the Democrats don't stand up and vigorously OPPOSE BushCo, there's no way they'll be stopped . . .

[brettdale]

25. Afraid so

I think there is nothing at all we can do, as long as they rig elections and have the entire media in thier back pocket, remember no matter how bad things get, they will always blame Clinton and the puppets of the media will keep on Bush's side.

I read on another message baord a while back that all the crap the USA is in now its down to Clinton and its going to take 30-50 years to fix it.

What is wrong with these people!!!!!!!!

[magellan]

28. What is wrong with these people?

You actually answered this yourself: it's the media. (Sorry if your question was rhetorical! :))

For the vast majority of Americans (around 60% of the populace), their knowledge of current events is limited to -- no, severely restricted by -- the corporate-owned news. They genuinely don't know any better, and the CON is absolutely culpable for their mass ignorance.

The remaining 40% is split between the extremes of "reality as she's writ by BushCo" and the truth known to the reality-based community (us).

I got these stats last year from a program about voters on one of those university channels. Basically, approximately 20% of us are up against the Freeps and the ignorant masses. Sounds about right to me.

[fujiyama]

27. The least we can do

is pressure Dem senators and reps to oppose the Bush agenda.

But I too am annoyed with this notion that since we are in a minority, we should just roll over.

[Charon]

29. Nothing We can Do

Try winning one or both houses of Congress in the 2006 elections. Control of one of the legislatures will put a brake on President Bush, if the winners have the spine to fight.

[brettdale]

30. but it will be rigged

You cant win an election if its rigged.