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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:40 AM Original message |
Oil from Anything...And hardly anyone's writing about it. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Kind of like Mr. Fusion? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yeah, that's the main drawback. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Balance that with the elimination of landfills and toxic waste dumps, |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Actually, an economy based on this is carbon-neutral. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. You're right. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. No, the energy source is the sun. Nuclear not needed. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Since that heat isn't produced by a radioactive process, |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I think you're not accounting for the required heat energy |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Is that necessarily a bad thing? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Personally, I'm in favor of nuclear power. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. well, okay, so could the recyclable spent rods you mentioned |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. NO !!! TDP can't handle radioactives. NT |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. It doesn't have to handle any radiation. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Needless. TDP produces it's own fuel. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
94. yep, it's a perpetuum mobile |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Not perpetuum mobile. Just a way of harvesting solar energy. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. Okay. I'd wondered. n/t |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Spent fuel has to be processed. |
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LiberallyInclined (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. the spent nuclear fuel from a pebble-bed reactor is not as dangerous- |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 07:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
113. Right. We recycle it in places like Iraq. |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Actually you are wrong on this point.... |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. You have just described a system that... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. No, he didn't. You did not understand. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Correct. The point I'm making is... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Yes, you can. It produces OIL. Oil is used as a fuel. NT |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Maybe we're talking past each other. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Have you even read the article? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #86 |
117. Yes, last year. However, I re-read it. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #117 |
138. I am not qualified to answer that. |
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Poor Richard Lex (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 09:00 AM Response to Reply #81 |
116. no - E1 = (EO + EB + EW) |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
133. TDP Produces OIL + Fuel-gas + solid Carbon + Minerals + Water!! |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 10:30 PM Response to Reply #133 |
139. I think lots of people don't want TDP to succeed. |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 06:21 AM Response to Reply #139 |
144. I think you are right! |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #139 |
147. I know no such people |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 08:51 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. I said that because... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. So, there's *no* net 'loss' of energy? n/t |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
134. There ARE problems. 1) It stinks. 2) Animals guts aren't free in U.S. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #134 |
140. Not terribly expensive to build the plants. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. You're talking about producing more energy than goes in |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. You are forgetting where the plants get their energy from. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
82. Now I understand, but... |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. The thing about the system is |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Even so, it doesn't negate the common sense to reduce consumption |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Agreed. NT |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Yes, we need to be looking at multiple sources. |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
132. One of the outputs of TDP is fuel-gas - which they use as fuel for TDP |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Combined with conservation measures |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. No. TDP helps with global warming. |
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BillyDoc (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
127. Wrong! |
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webDude (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. maybe not as bad as... |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
130. I thought the TDP oil was cleaner since solid carbon is a separate output. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Wow! That sounds like the perfect solution. Wonder how cheap |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Supposedly It's $85 a Barrel Now |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Changing World Technology says they can produce TDP oil for $15/ barrel. |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. this technology has been discussed many times at DU |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Ah cocoa as usual |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. isn't Woolsey's involvement interesting to you? |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Yes his involvement is eyebrow raising...to say the least |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. I'd tend to agree. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
91. Hitler's Germany invented several things that we use today. |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. and you'll notice |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I am talking about the process itself. |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
118. It is interesting that he should be involved. Kind of makes me give more |
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Discord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm still undecided on this. |
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Options Remain (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. lets empty our land fills into it. |
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Discord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. sure. thats ONE of the pro's for it. |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. There is a great article in |
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Discord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. cool. thanks for the info. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. That article is very informative, BTW |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
119. I read it Andy. It certainly seems encouraging, especially considering |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. Is that part of energy independence? |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. OMG - a positive solution! We need more of this on DU. Thanks Andy!!! |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's already under attack |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Big Agriculture is for TDP. |
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slor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. How about using it near a sewage plant too... |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 05:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
111. Exactly! Philadelphia was supposed to try this, don't know if they have. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. From what I understood about Big Oil's initial reaction, |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. Big Oil will have to wait for the patents to expire. |
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slaveplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
114. Yes, you are exactly right |
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Squeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. I say |
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Discord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. exactly. it has been very hard to find any accurate and |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Well everything that comes out at the end |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Links for the articles that you want: |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Point: that water is pure, as I understand the process. n/t |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Agree. I Hope It Pans Out. I Really Do. But . . |
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Squeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I couldn't agree more |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
96. Perhaps it is being sat on until the current oil economy is milked dry. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Take off the tinfoil hat. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 07:22 AM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Nothing tinfoil about milking current technology. |
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Squeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. Yeah, that works |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
136. Here's an article from Yesterday - two more from 1/2005 & 12/2004 |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. From anything, but not for free. |
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LiberallyInclined (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. think nuke-u-lar. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. how many new nuclear power plants would we need to produce |
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LiberallyInclined (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. the technology will NEVER produce that much oil- |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Hemp oil would be more expensive than TDP. |
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LiberallyInclined (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. is there a link to the discover article you refer to? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Yes. I posted it above, but here it is again: |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. The TDP energy comes from the sun. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. All energy comes from the sun. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. TDP uses more than just turkeys. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. We do need fertilizer to grow food - *at the scale that we do* |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. The energy source is the sun. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. You know plants need fertilizer don't you? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Weeds don't. |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #92 |
125. You do know that organic farmers grow crops without fertilizer don't you. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
129. Yes but even weeds are pretty inefficient |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #129 |
142. Keep up the research. That may yield something too. NT |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. Well it was explained this way |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
72. perpetuum mobile |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. No, the 15% is LOST unrecoverable energy. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. You can't both lose it and use it to power the process. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. All energy is ultimately lost. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #83 |
100. I see |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Why would you fertilize weeds? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #102 |
151. to get massive quantities of it, |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Your objection was covered in the original article. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
39. From what I've seen on DU and other sites, |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. that last is part of why Big Ag seems to be against it |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. Big Ag doesn't get much bigger than ConAgra |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Contradicting something above. |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I'm not following you |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
42. Barking up the wrong tree (the answer to peak oil is in the Bible)... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. the really funny part is, if you account for the TDP process we're |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. Cheney's energy bill provided $95 million for this technology |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:33 AM Response to Reply #75 |
108. That's probably just payback to ConAgra, nothing for CWT. n/t |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
78. I've long fantasized about this... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. I know what you mean. |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
88. Andy, I've been swamped and haven't had time to read |
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jmatthan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
104. Thermal Depolymerisation is old technology |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:21 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Known as Kompogas? n/t |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:25 AM Response to Original message |
106. Fertilizer; Kompogas; Switzerland, Germany, Austria; kills mad cow prions |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
107. I emailed Gov. Gregoire's office about this last month, in the hopes that |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
109. I remember reading about this |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
110. Found link; destroys mad cow prions and breaks down dioxins and PCBs |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
115. In Theory, This Works. |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #115 |
121. Been done for years in Europe, & it's profitable.The rest of the world can |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #121 |
122. This Proposal Is More Chemically Involved |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. I'm sure you know more about it than I do; thanks. CWT's process is |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #121 |
150. that's entirely different |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
120. I read the Discover article Andy. It certainly was encouraging considering |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
123. Fabulous! another great |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Who'd a thunk it, innovation on Laaaawwwng Island. |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. oh yeah? whereabouts? |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 07:52 AM Response to Reply #128 |
146. Valley Stream, which had no valleys or streams. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
131. Matt Savinar says it has a negative EROEI. |
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trekbiker (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. thanks for the link... incredible.. and depressing.. |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 07:26 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. The point is to use inputs to TDP that would normally be waste. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. There are errors in your post. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
143. Kick |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
145. Biomass rules! |
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Domitan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
149. Thanks for the tip |
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