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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:12 PM
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Is Bush Dumb or Intellectually Lazy
So I thought I'd ask everyone, do you think Bush is dumb, or intellectually lazy?

His use (or lack therefof) of the English language is legendary as we all know. And we all know that he has bragged about being a C student.

I'm not sure if I'd call him dumb, but it's ocurred to me a lot lately that Bush is definitely intellecutally lazy. He is uncurious about the world around him, and he doesn't appear to seek out knowledge or information like a POTUS should.

He made sure that White House staffer knew he likes to go to bed by 9 PM and that he's not a big reader, and he bragged about not reading Condi Rice's article in Foreign Affairs.

These are all dangerous qualities/attributes to have in a POTUS.

So DUers, what say you? Is he dumb? Intellectually lazy, or both? :)
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:13 PM
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1. Yes to both. n/t
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:14 PM
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2. He's f*cking stupid, if you ask me!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:14 PM
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3. Yes.
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:15 PM
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4. obviously intellectually lazy
Edited on Wed Apr-06-05 06:17 PM by toymachines
dumb... maybe inherently. stupid, he is not. or maybe he is. it just hurts to think about it.

i still think all that "he graduated from the ivy league so he must not be stupid" talk is bullshit. this man is a cheater, in every way possible.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:15 PM
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5. Both
the question is, is he lazier than he is dumb? I'd say yes.

If he was half as smart as the thinks he is, he'd still be twice as smart as he really is.

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:16 PM
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6. Its just a tool he uses
and it is very effective in keeping the media and masses in the dark about what he is doing.
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Snap Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:51 PM
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24. lazy, not smart
I see it more as he is the tool that is used by others with this folksy/boneheaded demeanor and I don't think it's much of a stretch.
I think what passes for smarts may be brute beast cleverness.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:17 PM
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7. Ask him to spell "intellectually"!
Nah...never mind! I'm going with dumb based on my own observations of the guy.
Intelligent people always seem to try to learn more.
If there's one common trait among 'em that would be it.

Shrub learned how to hold his pee and feed himself and then he...just...gave...up.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:27 PM
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14. LOL!!!!!!! He'd probably spell intellectually lazy like this...
m-i-s-e-r-a-b-l-e f-a-i-l-u-r-e!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:29 PM
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15. That's your 666th post!
Type some more quickly, bogeyman!! :D
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:30 PM
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17. LOL! OK!!!!!! Here goes!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:32 PM
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19. Damn...that was close!
I could smell the brimstone! :toast:
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:17 PM
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8. Dumb means you can't speak
He occasionally makes sounds that are similar to speech, so I'm not sure about dumb. Stupid, ignorant & slimy are accurate though.


http://www.kliljedahl.net
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:17 PM
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9. Not too much different, imho.
How can you be smart if you don't give a shit? Not giving a shit makes you dumb.

I vote for both.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:18 PM
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10. Lazy works for me. Dumb works also. So does 'both.'
And not to be ruled out are shrewdly selfish, socially insensitive, emotionally juvenile, spiritually shallow, and horrendously dishonest.

A President Kerry would not have elicited such a response from me, but Dubya does.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:19 PM
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11. Intellectually lazy, and suffering some sort of mental degeneration....
That 'legendary' misuse of language is a recent development; he was a fine speaker 10-12 years ago.

He was ALWAYS an assh*le, though.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:26 PM
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12. Bush is, IMHO not dumb but probably about average intelligence.
He's also dyslexic, (which runs in families, look at pop) and he has used the perception that he is below average to his advantage many many times.

Intellectually lazy pretty well describes it.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:27 PM
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13. click on the link in my signature, explaines it all...........
Edited on Wed Apr-06-05 06:28 PM by sam sarrha
and you must take into consideration that he has an IQ of 90.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:29 PM
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16. I loved that article!! Thanks!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:30 PM
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18. He's intellectually lazy, selectively ignorant, totally disengaged,
dyslexic, and a vicious, vindictive, grudge-holding motherfucker. He is shrewd and clever...not dumb.

But he likes to Play Dumb to cozy up to the jes' folks he needs from to time.

He's also probably got some kind of degenerative disorder, based on his old debate/public speaking history and what he's shown us in the last 5 years.
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The Whiskey Priest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:32 PM
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20. I don't think it is either one
I think he and the elite rulers hold "we the people" in such disdain and have such a low opinion of us, that they just don't care what we think and therefore they don't need to worry about what they say or do.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:39 PM
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21. He's spoiled and self-centered making dumb or IQ lazy moot.
His "intellectual" state really makes no difference since he is narcissistic. A non-intellectual with a heart could touch others in a positive way. An intellectual scholar with a hard heart could destroy others.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:39 PM
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22. I think the best way to describe it is...
Intellectually Lazy to the point of causing stupidity through secondary actions caused those potentials to become permanently closed.

He acts as though he were a malicious child, those types never grow up, he's chosen to not learn because he felt that he was superior by birth, that he need not learn because he would always be protected from his blunders because of his family. He's never had anything to disprove that either. He was effectively elected in his father's name, he has been protected by the media and congress. Truly, the pope himself may have been correct when he offhandedly remarked that Bush could be the AntiChrist may not be that far from the truth, I wouldn't put it past someone with the kind of cruelty that is he 'rumored' to have applied when he was young that the idea of being the antichrist appeals to him, after all, if you've got the kind of morals that this administrations has, being the antichrist at least means a good ruling position in hell.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:44 PM
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23. I agree, he is both.
I used to think he was playing dumb. But I really believe now that he actually IS dumb. And he is intellectually lazy as well.

Add his insufferable arrogance to the mix and no wonder most of us have to switch off the set or change the channel.
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 07:12 PM
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25. I think he's both
But he is dumb because he intellectually lazy. Due to the fact that Bush never really had to do any work in his life, because he was born with a silver spoon rammed up his ass, and got everything he wanted for nothing. Therefore he became so lazy that he turned dumb and stop caring about what he says or does.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 07:13 PM
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26. We have to choose only one?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 08:28 PM
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28. No......Not at all. More than one if you feel appropriate!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 07:57 PM
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27. His capacity is filled with Kool-Aid. He cannot read. The handlers know
this.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 08:34 PM
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29. He's a manipulator and incurious.
It's not that he's stupid. I don't know what his IQ is or what genuine skills he has. I seriously doubt he ever had to develop any skills besides a memory for grudges, shmoozing, and manipulating. It's not as though he ever had to worry about his future.

He has a trait I've also seen in a co-worker of mine who takes knee-jerk right-wing stances on most things: he simply lacks intellectual curiosity. I honestly don't believe he'd care if he saw nothing but Kennebunkport and Crawford, plus the occasional golf course or ballpark, for the rest of his life. Have you ever heard of him taking an interest in paintings, films, theater, a range of sports, music, or novels? Have you ever heard of him really listening to people with different viewpoints? Yeah, I know that he claims to be bipartisan and patient and a listener. It's all bunk. He just wants yes-men and women, the compliant wife, the defeated enemy, the affront paid back.

He's manipulative and actually appears to be good at picking out the sore spots of others and exploiting them. He's also given to projecting his own sins onto others (i.e., trying to paint John Kerry as dismissive of our allies). He generally delegates the dirty deeds, though, so the lapdog press generally buys the myth of Bush as a nice, affable guy.
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