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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:36 AM
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Target Stores feature war toys - "21st Century Toys" -link
http://www.target.com/gp/browse.html/602-1095168-0588631?%5Fencoding=UTF8&node=13939151

See for yourself

During the Viet Nam era "no war toys" was a popular slogan. It was politically incorrect to buy war toys for children.

It's probably the reverse now.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:38 AM
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1. Don't most stores that sell toys feature "war toys?"
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 10:40 AM by eyesroll
Not that this is a good thing -- but why single out Target?

And, on edit: These look more like scale models and historical replicas, not necessarily the things that six-year-olds are going to pretend to shoot each other with. I generally don't have a problem with these sort of things aimed at adults.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:42 AM
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2. I just got a Target e-mail ad, and was curious about "21C Toys"
I don't get out much, so don't know what is available in
Toy stores. I shop almost exclusivly on-line, and hadn't looked for war toys.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:43 AM
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3. those really aren't "toys"
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 10:45 AM by Cush
but more like 'collector' things. I think my cousin has a few
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:50 AM
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7. Their web site calls them "Toys", but they are a bit pricey for toys.
I'll admit. The are correctly scaled also.
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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:48 AM
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4. When I was young
I loved toy soldiers, G.I. Joe and war toys. Guess what? I'm still not a blood thirsty warmonger. I think that changing the toys sold in stores or stopping violence in video games should be pretty far down the priority list of society IMHO.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:50 AM
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6. agree
I still have all of my old GI Joes and army dudes.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:31 AM
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14. My son played with these things when
he was younger. He outgrew them and is now very anti-war.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:50 AM
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5. Not only that, my local pet store started carrying dog
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 10:50 AM by Cleita
chew toys decorated with military camouflage right after the invasion of Iraq and they still do.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:53 AM
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8. I was a child during the Vietnam War era.....
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 10:54 AM by tx_dem41
I had "war toys" by the scads. They were sold all over the place (probably more than today quite frankly..."conventional" war at least).

I don't think your statement on war toys being politically incorrect during that era is correct.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:10 AM
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12. I lived in California
of course it was northern California, and there was not a "war toy" be be had. GI Joe was taken off the shelves.

Just my experience
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:11 AM
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13. Understand....I guess it was a regional thing....
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 11:12 AM by tx_dem41
every GI Joe I ever bought was bought from about 1966-1971. I had around 8 of them.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:47 AM
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16. Well we went from Berkeley to graduate school at another university
where my husband was getting an advanced degree. Both towns were solidly anti-war, and there were no war toys in that milieu. Period.

We had one small child, and he did become fascinated if he saw a toy gun. We finally bought him some dopey toy gun, he played with it a couple days, and it was forgotten forever more.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:55 AM
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9. those are more collectors items than toys, honestly
thier scale replicas
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:58 AM
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10. Those aren't the problem. They're historical vehicles.
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 11:06 AM by onehandle
And expensive. What you what to be mad at are the cheapy flag emblazoned modern plastic toys. They're all over toy stores now and might as well have been manufactured by the army themselves. Like the military version of "Joe Camel".

These you found are not really for kids.

Cool! A ME 262. First war operational Jet Fighter. I see they removed the swastika. Good.

And it's $30. With the plastic patriotic toys I am refering to, you could buy a bunch for thirty bucks. Many of these are $60 and $70.

On edit: These are all TWENTIETH Century toys. Not 21st. Stoopid Target.

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deadcenter Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:22 PM
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18. 21st Century
is the name of the toy company

deadcenter
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:23 PM
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19. That said...
none of those weapon systems/platforms are from the 21st Century.
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deadcenter Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:04 PM
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20. and that
has exactly what to with what someone wants to name their company? are you saying that the company name has to exactly reflect the product? who knows, maybe 20th Century toys was already taken. bah, who cares.

deadcenter
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:07 PM
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21. Chill....I was responding solely to your post....I didn't read the one...
you responded to. My mistake.
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thecorster Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:59 AM
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11. That's sick.
I hope Iraq is not how the 21st century is remembered.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:33 AM
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15. My nephew's never been allowed to play with "war toys". No
GI Joe action figures or the like; no guns, not ever a supersoaker. No camo clothing, no khaki. Nothing that even hints that people are violent outside of their little Glendale house.

Last time I saw him, he was holding a stick on his shoulder, and leaned out from behind a doorframe from time to time making machine gun noises at me and his parents. His mother was none too happy.

If there's even a correlation between "toys of violence" and later *adult* behavior, I'd like to see a link to it.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:56 AM
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17. As Fred Mertz of "I Love Lucy" would say...
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 11:58 AM by solinvictus
"O,for corn's sake, Ethel!". This is not a big deal at all, these are detailed scale toys that mostly go to collectors. I played with green, khaki, and gray army men all through childhood and have not killed anyone. I believe there's a fundamental over-reaction against war toys that isn't grounded in any real life experience.

Edit: I would LOVE to have the ME-109 Tropical and PanzerKw Mk III as well. I love 21st Century toys larger (GI Joe size) scale WW2 figures. I love the Russian infantryman and the Panzergrenadier.
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