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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:29 PM Original message |
Kerry's a loser whether he won and refused to fight, or actually lost. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's the spirit! |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. So, you are saying he didn't "lose", however you define the term? |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
66. Sounds like this is a personal, not political, thing for you |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
71. Truth hurts, don't it? |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. he is a loser and so is any other dem |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. You know Hillary is going to run in 2008.n/t |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I'd rather have her than Kerry, and she's far from my first choice. |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. mypetrock i agree completely. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Thanks! I knew I'd get flamed for this but I am sick of the non-stop |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. No flames here. My original post was |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Sounds good. I'll respect him a lot if he doesn't run again. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. And quite a few of us are tired of the people who can't see that the.... |
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cidliz2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
75. Why didn't Kerry see that the elections were rigged? And even more |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
99. Like what, make accusations with no evidence? |
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cidliz2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #99 |
119. Why did he have to make a concession speech at lightening speed |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #30 |
86. Amen..n/t |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
112. Labeling that with which you do not agree "propaganda" is a lousy tactic |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. And that Walter Mondale ! ... |
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Dave Reynolds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. Okay, here we go! |
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Mr. Flibble (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think we need to look toward the future. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I don't know what went down when Kerry threw the election. |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. he said he would fight and he folded like a deck of wet cards. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. He was never my first choice. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
81. "Dean Supporter Like Myself" That Says It All. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. So WIN or LOSE He Was a Loser, eh? |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You "lose" de facto when you throw a contest, even if you really won. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. The **Timing** of Your Insight Is Ringing My Chimes - It's Your Call n/t |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. What? |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. What Needs to Be Elaborated? |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I voted and worked for Kerry, including having a house party. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Right. Let's blame Kerry for the crimes committed by the NeoCons.... |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I blame him for not fighting them, not for their crimes. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. And what was he supposed to do? The voting machine software has.... |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
79. let's blame the dem faciltators |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Oh, so taking a rational approach to the issue makes "Kerry fanatics".... |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Just Noticing You Labeling "Kerry-fanatics" and CAUSING TROUBLE |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Get this....the election was rigged just like it was in 2000.... |
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seeker4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. I'd call a dem a looser if he lost and |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Would you call a Dem a "loser" if he ran against a stacked deck?.... |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
70. if you're talking about a candidate |
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thoughtanarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. Expecting a coup? |
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seeker4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. Let's keep on with our current WINNING strategy! |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Maybe "winning" isn't the point anymore. |
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seeker4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. I know what you mean... |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Guess it depends on the payoff. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Yes it is....and the NeoCon dogs are eating very well these days.... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. I guess that makes Jimmy Carter a loser, too, huh? |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Didn't Reagan beat him |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. Right. I meant Carter's second term. n/t |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. WHAT second term? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-05 05:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Losing = Loser |
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justice4all_1 (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. Not a "loser", but should not try again |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I hope you're correct. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. You're the First--and Only--Questioning His "Dignity" n/t |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
21. Where the hell did THIS come from? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. You don't get it do you?.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. "Kerry fanatics" - "I smell a rat" -------------Me, Too n/t |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Oh, I get it now! Kerry KNEW the election was rigged!.... |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Whatever. Yes, I think he threw the election deliberately. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Right. Threw the election deliberately. Sure. Whatever you say. |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. He could have smelled a whole army |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Who ever said that? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Well there's still one left |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
73. Right on... |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
103. The other day someone said |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
29. Amen brother... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. I do not consider Senator Kerry a loser. Period. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. We lost, we're the losers, or at least we share it with him |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. I don't agree with you at all! |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Kerry lost for a lot of reasons. |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 11:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I'm not sure that's it |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Wrong... Kerry lost because of how he was portrayed in the media... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
62. Kerry should not run. He did the best HE could but lacks a populist apeal |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-05 06:00 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I completely agree. It's time for somebody new. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #62 |
77. No. GOP controlled MEDIA said he had no appeal. The PEOPLE said Kerry won |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #77 |
91. the 1st debate was the high point of Kerry's campaign |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
84. they kill the good populists-wellstone |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-05 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
65. It wasn't just the fold at the end |
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cleofus1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
67. there are no winners or losers |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
68. Dean is a loser, Clark is a loser, Gephardt is a loser, Edwards |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. good point |
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candice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #68 |
83. And Gore was a winner |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
104. Unlike Kerry, Gore won the popular vote |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
117. He was the sitting VP \nt |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #68 |
108. Actually Dean is a winner. He won the DNC Chair position after losing |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:09 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Many of them have both won and lost. n/t |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
72. So, who do you support? |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
76. Where would Harold Stassen have gotten with that attitude? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
80. I'll let the chips fall where they may in 2008. HOWEVER, Bush was the |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
82. If I Were Intent On Causing Disruptions On DU, I'd Start A Thread |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
85. democracy is the loser |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
87. You got it right |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
88. The election was STOLEN-how does that make Kerry a loser?! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Kerry is on c-span2 now--fighting for the Military Bill of Rights Byrd up |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
90. Kerry may have been Diebold's pick for the nomination. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Baloney. The "media" manipulated Dean's numbers in Iowa, when it was Kerry |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Fair enough. |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Kerry was campaigning in Iowa, in person, and the people |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Clark and Kucinich supporter as well. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Yeah, whatever. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Or you for the matter! |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #96 |
114. Just noting that you were a Dean supporter and with the |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Iowans are very serious about the primaries and READ everything they can |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. I was impressed by his work, totally unimpressed by his awful campaign. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
106. The Iowa Caucuses are a Byzantine ordeal favored by Party hacks |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
92. Who did the GOP run in 1960? How 'bout 1968? Who won each time? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. So we can look forward to a Kerry presidency some day? |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #97 |
118. Maybe. Maybe not. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
98. Just realize the implication of what you're saying. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
100. I wish the moderators would lock this thread |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
110. I disagree. If the next candidate doesn't learn from Kerry's "mistakes" |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
102. 2004 GE proved that Kerry was UNELECTIBLE!!! |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. A majority doesn't seem to think so |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. electible? |
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