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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:00 AM
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No doubt in my mind : Jerry Springer is a HUGE asset
His caricature that I carried in mind from the Springer TV show is gone after listening to Springer for like 2 days. He is going to connect with a lot a people.

JER-RY JER-RY JER-RY
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:03 AM
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1. It doesn't matter how great he is,
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 09:03 AM by Dufaeth
he will always be a joke to the public.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:05 AM
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2. Which public?
The smart set? A bunch of elitist snobs?

I mean, I'm not a fan, but wasn't his tv show pretty popular with a lot of people? I mean it was on the air a long time. Somebody was watching, weren't they? But maybe they werne't the sort of people that fit neatly into an trendy coffe-house or a country club.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:29 AM
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22. I added "to the public" in edit, to try to make
my comments less inflammatory. My point is, that Jerry Springer will always carry a stigma with him for his past.
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:47 PM
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40. I remember Jerry BEFORE
that show became a joke, and I along with many others stopped watching him because of it.

I remember his show BEFORE, and I always looked forward to his ending comments.

If the "public" judges him because of that show, then they don't know much about his past. But then, what else is new?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:07 PM
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48. I agree
And the show is still on the WB as well. Must've had good raitings. I just think the show is silly and watch for humor. His talk show is great and I enjoy it. :) He's very informative and he's nice to people but not too nice. I think he's better than Franken. I used to love Franken but haven't listened in a while. I do still here and there but I like Springer a little better. And Rachel Maddow is having her own show on the weekends. :)
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:49 PM
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49. I hadn't heard about Rachel getting a slot
That's great. AS for Al Franken, I have always been a huge fan of Al and his radio style gets better and better every day. I dig his show
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:52 PM
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51. Actually, Rachel's show is on weekdays.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:07 AM
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6. only if YOU make it so, no it doesnt have to be
all a person has to do is think............and then one can be beyond that

i dont agree.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:09 AM
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7. I be the public
:)
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:56 PM
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44. You mean like Nixon was in 1962?
n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:06 AM
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3. Yep
I hate that horrible TV show of his, but I've been listening to his radio show for about 2 weeks now. I have to admit, the man is intelligent, articulate and funny - he knows his stuff. I was suprised to find myself enjoying it so much. I do wish he'd give up TV.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:06 AM
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4. I think he is less "centrist" than Franken, which is a GOOD thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:06 AM
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5. i thought so. i have listened to him on the side
never watching his silly useless show. i dont want to watch the worse of who we are as a people. but, everytime i have listened to the man, whether talking this silly show, or politics, he is so reasoned. so i am glad to hear he is doing well
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:11 AM
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8. his voice sounds a bit like Dick Morris...content wise he's speaking on a
simple level and asking/answering questions that should be aired. That's a very good thing. Does he take callers?
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:16 AM
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10. Yes, he does take callers
Responding to one right now, in fact.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:16 AM
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9. jerry is the man.....
after all folks-who else can understand the down and outs of this society? he may have the worst tv show ever and alot of it is staged but alot of these people who are on, are the same people you pass everyday and never think about..and most of us have to admitt that we do know someone who would be a perfect springer "guest". i hope jerry really sticks it to the rest of the air america crew---big ed and jerry know their audience
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:16 AM
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11. For as much as the show was "trash TV"
I feel he always had some very insightful and serious thoughts at the end of each show. I watched the show itself once, HATED it but liked his comment at the end. I started tuning in at the end of the show every day, just to hear this comment.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:17 AM
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12. He is a very pleasant surprise
The man knows how to communicate progressive ideas in a simple direct way that relates to real peoples lives.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:25 AM
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17. And make no mistake..
... THAT is what the Dem party needs most.

Sure, the Springer show is crap. But I've heard the man in interviews and he does have the ability to point out the obvious in a straightforward way that our fearless leaders can only aspire to.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:34 PM
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36. I agree.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:58 PM
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45. Add to that the fact
that millions of those who would never pay attention to what a damn dirty Democrat had to say would listen to him, if only because they like watching his "talk" show.

Dean would be smart to make use of this guy.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:24 AM
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30. I agree, and I notice a lot of his callers
seem like the middle-age to older middle-class and working class white men that Democrats have been losing.

I have been real skeptical about trying to pander to those guys, but after reading "What's the Matter with Kansas?," maybe someone like him could swing some of the more reasonable ones of that demographic back.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:18 AM
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13. Until he pays for a hooker with a check
Or has a threesome with a porn star and her stepmom.

Jerry Springer may be smart. He may be talented.

But he is probably the last person I want speaking for my side.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:24 AM
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15. Any suspicion he might do such a thing?
He may host an unsavory TV show, but is he scandal-prone like Rush? I don't live in the US, but I've never heard or read anything of the sort.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:26 AM
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20. He did it in Cincinatti in 1977
When he was a member of city council (the check thing).

And he had a threesome with Kendra Jade and her stepmom. (They videotaped it).
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:29 PM
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33. then there was the time
he ate the woman out after she had pulled an 81 man orgy the day before...

Yeah these things kind of dog him, but the public has a SHORT memory. Springer's taudry level is a perfect fit for mainstream consumers.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:27 AM
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21. The check to a hooker part is absolutely true.
I don't know about the other parts.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:24 AM
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16. Ain't a man, woman or dog amongst us...
Who ain't made some mistakes.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:25 AM
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18. now wait
lets see we have all these people preaching to us about morality, and all in hteir life is exactly not moral. we have a man that show the immorality of our nation, and the people that crave it so, can even be argued in airing the show a promotion of said immorality, yet in life,.........walk the walk......

i think this is an interesting thing to embrace as a party. if anyone on the right cvhallenges me with springer, will not be hard at all to defend him. and come out on top. and actually talk about the repug talks the talk, but doesnt walk it

really i have been listening to springer away from his show for a handful of years. i dont think he will be a problem in representing us as a party. no more thean michael more or jackson or sharpton.

stern is more of a challenge, and i can in a higher with him also. sheeeet flint is a hard one, but in all his immorality and perversion there is at least a consistancy and honesty with him too

interesting where you made my mind go this morning, lol thanks wink

we are a party of inclusion
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:34 AM
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23. We are a party of inclusion why put the dirty laundry out front?
Larry Flynt is truly a vile person. He is really little more than a backwoods Kentucky pimp who got lucky serving up the nastiest brand of pornography when that market exploded.

Jerry Springer got rich exploiting poor whites and blacks and pandering in the worst kinds of stereotypes. He also has terrible judgment in his private life.
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MsUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:08 AM
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28. I agree Larry is a schmuck, but I believe he did come to the aid
of Bill Clinton at his darkest hour, not that everyone took to kindly to that.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:16 AM
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29. If in my darkest hour, Larry Flynt comes to my aid....
please leave the light off.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:34 AM
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31. Larry's been good for the democratic party
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 11:36 AM by mongo
Hustler is one of the few magazines that will touch REAL stories not covered in the media. And Hustler was very outspoken against Bush for the before the election.

He is responsible for breaking a few of the scandals against repubs.

Cut the old guy some slack. He took a bullet for the right to publish a friggin' magazine.

On edit: Cut Jerry Springer some damn slack too. The guy worked hard for Kerry in '04 and has been trying to get away from his talk show for forever.

Is the only thing we have against Springer the fact that he had some private consentual sexual encounters that we disapprove of? Geesh. Sounds like someone else that was skewered by the repubs.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:02 PM
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46. Clearly
we must only have ivory tower people like Chomsky speak for the Democratic Party. Those that can connect to the common people must be purged.
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 02:01 PM
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53. What's wrong with any of those things you mentioned?
And who's ever heard of a hooker who takes checks?

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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:22 AM
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14. Jerry's is doing a great job on AAR, I look forward to listening
to him in the morning, he is a great asset to the show. I never watched his TV show but he really ROCKS on AAR.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:25 AM
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19. I think he has too much baggage and
almost no credibility.

But you might be right. He could be just enough of an "entertainer" to catch people's ear.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:50 AM
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24. I was always under the impression that his show was faked.
I don't care how cheesy and low class someone is. I don't care how many people they've been married to at a single time, nor how big their mullet is; yelling about it on national TV and then tearing off your XXXL clothes to fight about it is not a normal reaction. I got the feeling that the people on Jerry's show were taking advantage of some last chance to get into the B movie industry.

That being said, his show was popular. It has to be to stay on the air so long. And, I'll add, Jerry was always the voice of sanity and introspection, without being a stuffy elitist. I think that if people associate his image from the show with his radio program, it'll be a good thing for AAR.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:54 AM
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25. He was hitting all the points today.
Talking about Section Two-One-Five...
My GF's a Library Clerk, that section gives her nightmares.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:38 AM
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26. the interesting thing is that he is able to take some very
heady concepts of personal freedom have his audience easily understand and relate to them.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:59 AM
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27. He's very easy to listen to. So much more to him than "JER-REE!"
The ability to take "The dusty Tomes" and make them accessable and alive to the Average Joe is in my mind, a sign of a very smart person.

I think Jerry has a lot more on the ball than simply "You want Lesbian Dwarf Wrestling? I gotcher Dwarfs RIGHT HERE!"
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:56 AM
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32. no offense to Lesbian Dwarf Wrestling afficianados
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:31 PM
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34. Unfilered was a waste of good air time
considering that they appealed only to small demographics. Springer is much more effective use of that time slot.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:33 PM
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35. I have cried listening to him speak No shit!
I never watched that show, I only know about his politics and I like him.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:36 PM
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37. I like Al Franken but I'd rather listen to Jerry Springer any day
anytime anywhere. He is on top of the heap! Randi Rhodes I can listen to on certain days.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:39 PM
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38. I'm loving his show.
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 12:40 PM by Connie_Corleone
I always liked hearing his commentaries on channel 5 news before he started his awful TV show.

Oh, and about his bounced check to a prostitute and other things. That stuff barely gets a mention in Cincinnati, if at all.

Cincinnati...Launching famous careers of Jerry Springer and Larry Flynt. :silly:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:43 PM
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39. I've only listened once, so far
and thought he was pretty good. It was last Friday's show. Except for that he said something to the about "what are they going to do if China becomes a member of the Security Council?" Hmmm...we just finished touring the UN and caught that oopsie, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he meant to say Japan.

Anyway...here's another way of looking at it.

For all of "us" and "them" that measure his credibility by his show, there was a pretty big following of that show. They always seemed to me as the very people we try to get through to. So...maybe those same people who watched his show will also listen to his radio program and start learning something beyond the filter of the right-wing noise machine. :)
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:49 PM
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41. Only caught it once, bit I thought it was pretty good
He has a lot of things over Franken - he speaks coherently, is more pointed, doesn't clutter up the time with alot of wingers, and lets his guests talk. Seems like more of an opinion show that Al's comedy revue.
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:51 PM
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42. I remember his night TV show before it went daytime and
sensational. He was intelligent, educated, and articulate.

Do the numbers -- if Jerry can attract 20,000 voters in each state, he can cause a swing in the results. Maybe, he huge constituency aren't the great intellectuals of our time, but they are being severely abused by the Administration policies. We need to be a party of inclusion, which means PBS watchers are as valid as Springer watchers.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:55 PM
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43. exactly n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:51 PM
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50. Yes. See #39 above. n/t
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:07 PM
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47. Look for the wing-nuts to start dragging up his past
because they will soon become very afraid of him; he's THAT good! It's a good thing Oxyrush and sex scandal O'lielly aren't known for anything scandalous. They wouldn't dare throw stones at Jerry, given their histories. :sarcasm:
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 02:03 PM
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54. I say fuck em
People that will vote democractic have an understanding that people make mistakes in the past.

People that vote republican only have this understanding if the guy that's popping those pills or sexually harasses those women is on their side. Spend a few million to investigate a stain on a dress but anyone that dares question illegal drug use is just trying to destroy the guy for political reasons. :eyes:

Bring em on, I think Jerry can handle it.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 02:09 PM
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55. I'm looking forward to all the banter between pot and kettle.
It will be very entertaining I'm sure :-) . Jerry is such a nice guy though, that I think he'll be less of a jerk about it than the drug addict and pervert on the other side.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:58 PM
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52. Jerry is great, I started listening to him this week
Sure, his show became a joke but I strongly doubt it was his fault; his producers wanted ratings. He was always a smart guy and his new show is actually really good. I'll be honest, when I first tuned in I thought of him as a joke too, until I actually listened to it.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 02:21 PM
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56. I must admit........
he is GOOD! He had me in tears today. I really, really do like him a lot!!!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:52 PM
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57. When he was talking abou the Patriot act he was really
on a roll.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:53 PM
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58. I get to listen to him almost every morning now.
great show, and he really points out the things I scream about all the time.
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