KittyWampus
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:26 AM
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Stuff Fundie Pharmacists Shouldn't Sell Along With Birth Control Pills- |
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if they wanted to be ideologically consistent.
The gist of why they won't fill Rx's for women's birth control is to control women's fertility and to punish them for inappropriate behavior.
Let's see what other products they'd have to also not supply if they were going to be consistent:
Condoms Viagra Medications for any sexually transmitted disease
- this includes Penicillin. If anyone needs Penicillin, the doctor will have to say on Rx that condition needing antibiotics is NOT related to sex.
Can't think of anything else right now, but if anyone can add to the list......
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:28 AM
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al la carte Christians.....
or
smorgosbord Christians...
or
how 'bout HYPOCRITES!
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MsUnderstood
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:29 AM
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Condoms are not over the counter so they have no control over the distribution.
Viagra increase chance of pregancy not prevents it.
The are not trying to encourgae disease, they are trying to prevent birth control so filling anitbiotics has nothing to do with their arguement.
This is not about sex, it is about birth control.
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:49 AM
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10. I think you mean condoms ARE over the counter |
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Regardless, they do have control of the distribution, they can refuse to stock them or any other type of over the counter BC, such as foams, sponges, etc.
BTW, Viagra is NOT a drug to increase pregnancy rates, it's a drug to increase pleasure.
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:09 AM
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16. If the pharmacist can refuse the clerk should be able to refuse as well. |
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Or are they saying that people working for minimum wage don't have consciences? See how much fun this fundamentalism can be?
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:56 AM
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Yes I did mean that in reference to condoms.
And this is much better. See the logic is that pharmisists can have a conscious but the first time the minimum wage person tries to tell a person "I can't sel you XYZ" they are gonna find themselves out of a job.
The problem with the original arguement is that those meds don't actually apply to either a pharmisist or birth control.
Now what I want to see (after watching Supersize Me) is the McDonalds worker who tells the customer "I can't sell you that food, it will decrease your sexual appitite and we need your sperm!"
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Tue Apr-19-05 09:03 PM
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32. But the fundies are also opposed to premarital or extramarital sex. |
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It's sinful, in their view. So if they're consistent in wanting to prevent sinful behavior, those busy-body pharmacists should be asking the marital status and partners' identities for men who want to buy Viagra, condoms, etc. at the pharmacy counter.
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:30 AM
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3. Gluttony is a deadly sin |
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So all medications dealing with the results of gluttony should also be banned, such as medicines for obesity, diabetes II and heart disease, (Don't flame me -- I know that diabetes II and heart disease are not necessarily caused by diet; but then again, pregnancy is not necessarily caused by nonmarital sex)
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:02 AM
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13. Tums & Stuff Used To Ease Discomfort From Over Eating! |
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:31 AM
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Since they kill millions of sperm by keeping the testes too close to the body.
Wine: it's Satan's tool to ease along sex.
K-Y: It might be used by *gasp* homosexuals. Not to mention that if those evil apple-eating women can't get excited enough for their marital duties, they deserve tissue damage and painful intercourse.
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:50 AM
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11. Hmm, doesn't alcohol abuse tend to result in lowered sperm count? |
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Beer: should it be banned or should we encourage more comsumption? :evilgrin:
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:12 AM
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18. Mary Jane decreases the sex drive, doesn't it? So phundy pharmicists |
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Tue Apr-19-05 02:13 PM
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It also helps men "maintain" longer. Not to mention that sex with weed is super fun. :-D
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:32 AM
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5. I don't care what the arguements are.... |
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ANY pharmacist who refuses to fill a legal prescription should no longer be allowed to be a pharmacist
End of story.
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:52 AM
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12. Yup, pull their DEA license |
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If they cannot fill prescriptions due to their conscience they should seek another line of work.
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:08 AM
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This is total fucking BS! People get happy pills, such as valium, but can't get BC at some pharmacies? RIDICULOUS.
I'm a married 41 year old woman. It's insulting that some fundie pharmacist feels the need to invade my privacy, my bedroom and my family planning. That is between my husband and I. If we choose NOT to have more children, that is OUR CHOICE.
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:12 AM
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They are against abortion, but what percentage of people actually get abortions? But now if they are refusing to sell birth control items - wow. Lots of people use those. Can you say backlash?
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:16 AM
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20. I really wonder what it's going to take |
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to get Americans' attention. It's just as likely that the sheep will accept the new mantra that birth control is "controversial."
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:24 AM
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I think Americans really like their birth control. Hard to square its restriction with all the prattling from the right about "freedom".
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Tue Apr-19-05 06:39 PM
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and I hope it stays that way. But I don't know. 51 milliion elected to return Bush to office, so all bets are off.
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:35 AM
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6. any pain pills for pms |
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would go under original sin and suppose to feel the pain
they have a new one. the vaccine to stop a cervical cancer brought on by std. since std is god wrath against poor behavior one must experience wrath not be protected from
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:37 AM
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7. Don't forget: You can just pray away PMS |
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According to one of the folks Bush installed at the FDA.
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:48 AM
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9. the head dude. after all he wrote a book about it |
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some fuckin male that knows shit about a woman telling me,.........screw him
i have been pissed about this a good three months. thinking women should be outraged. they dont seem to be
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Tue Apr-19-05 10:47 AM
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8. Bye bye aspirin and ibuprofin, too. Unless the consumer swears |
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and affirms that they aren't to treat a hangover (inappropriate behavior).
No more KY or Vaseline sales. No AIDS meds (might have gotten it from any number of inappropriate behaviors)...
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:02 AM
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Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 11:03 AM by MountainLaurel
Because there is no such thing as mental illness: It's either demon possession (in serious cases) or a lack of faith and prayer/selfishness/too much participation in secular culture.
Or so I was taught in the same ilk of church as the folks who believe birth control is eevil.
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Tue Apr-19-05 12:26 PM
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27. You haven't seen any evidence that they actually believe this, have you? |
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Tue Apr-19-05 02:09 PM
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28. It's what I was taught |
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In church as a child (to be honest, after being present when my grandmother had a breakdown and had to be hospitalized, I knew this was a load of horseshit). But in Googling the former pastor, I found that he apparently still leads meetings on the secular evil that is psychiatry.
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Tue Apr-19-05 09:00 PM
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I hope some bi-polar guy, thinking of suicide is not sitting in his congregation.
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:12 AM
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19. Actually they should not be pharmacists... |
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problem solved.
If you can't do your fricking job then become a school crossing monitor or something
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:25 AM
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22. Fundy Green Grocers shouldn't sell carrots and cucumbers, Know what I'm |
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:30 AM
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23. Might as well just shut down the pharmacies/drug stores |
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entirely. It's too complicated to control people item by item.
Get rid of Doctors, also, while we're at it. They prescribe "sinful" things.
It can just be every person for themselves. What you get you get - when you die you die.
:sarcasm:
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:31 AM
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24. Those filthy women's magazines like Cosmo |
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All they talk about is orgasms. If sex is supposed to be fun, then unmarried people will be tempted to have it.
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Tue Apr-19-05 11:32 AM
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25. I guess they need to quit if their stores sell alcohol. n/m |
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