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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:50 PM
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Should we refer to the new pope as "Ratzinger" for the rest of his life
Why not try some Republican-style "Framing" and refuse to acknowledge his self-imposed name of Benedict?

Is this a good idea?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:51 PM
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1. depends. this came from www.americablog.org
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 05:52 PM by roguevalley
Ratzinger to the Catholic News Service in 2002, commenting on the Catholic church pedophile priest scandal:

"I am personally convinced that the constant presence in the press of the sins of Catholic priests, especially in the United States, is a planned campaign, as the percentage of these offences among priests is not higher than in other categories, and perhaps it is even lower."

"In the United States, there is constant news on this topic, but less than 1% of priests are guilty of acts of this type," he said. "The constant presence of these news items does not correspond to the objectivity of the information nor to the statistical objectivity of the facts.

"Therefore, one comes to the conclusion that it is intentional, manipulated, that there is a desire to discredit the Church. It is a logical and well-founded conclusion."

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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:59 PM
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7. Hmmm
I wonder if the incidence of official cover-ups is also the same in other religions.

Do Protestants also shuffle child-molesters from one church to another? That isn't a snarky question, I'm really curious. I've heard of ministers losing their congregation when adultery or child abuse were discovered, but I can't recall any cases of wide-spread institutional protection of the abusers and a strong bureaucratic resistance to removing abusers from ministry.

My impression is also that Protestants don't accord ministers with the same degree of abject and unquestioning obedience that is common in Catholic parishes, and that makes predation on children so easy and such a betrayal of trust.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:53 PM
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2. Right now I can't call him "Pope"
John Paul II is still the pope to me.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:56 PM
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6. He is Pope "in pectore" to me.. n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:54 PM
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3. I like Pope Ratz who was a Hitler Youth.
The man helped out and protected priest and others who sexually preyed
on children.
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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:22 PM
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16. I think..
Der Ratz Fuhrer is more appropriate.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:54 PM
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4. From here on in he's Pope L. Ron Benedict...
he's creepy and I'm sticking with it.

What a brutal choice! :puke:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:55 PM
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5. It's easier to do that
I know I'm going to end up saying "Nazi Boy" whenever I mean "Pope Benedict XVI."
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:00 PM
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8. Or short: PapaRatzi
But well, he got to choose his name, so Benni it is.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:00 PM
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9. ROTFL!! Best one yet!
:D
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dxdem Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:03 PM
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10. Think Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali
I'm gonna MAKE you call me Benedict the 16th!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:12 PM
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13. Benny 16
B, b, b, Benny and the Jetsssssssssss!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:06 PM
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11. Papenfuhrer works for me.
I certainly won't treat him with anything resembling respect.
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:23 PM
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19. Der Papenfuhrer
Hey, I like that. It cuts right to the matter, and let's everyone know his real associations.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:08 PM
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12. Yes.... it's also faster to pronounce than Benedictus XVI.... nt
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:12 PM
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14. I'll refer to him as Benidict XIV
I'll refer to him as either The Pope, or Benidict XIV.... and this, coming from a good Presbyterian


:eyes:

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Kathryn7 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:13 PM
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15. PB16 is easy enough
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:22 PM
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17. How about Benedict Arnold
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:22 PM
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18. I'm going further...
...as far as I'm concerned, he is and will remain nothing other than Joseph Ratzinger, Bishop of Rome.

:puke:

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