Poppy Bush warned Kennedy not to come to Houston: "death threat"

[Bluebear]

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NOTE: Bush waited till after the assassination to disclose this information. Thirty years later the same James Parrott that Bush was implicated in the assassintion of JFK, is working on Bush's presidential campaign against Bill Clinton. Source: Bruce Adamson http://www.ciajfk.com/home4.html

[cajones_II]

1. yow

I really wish they would ......
oh never mind. Not gonna happen.

[dhinojosa]

2. Holy shit!!!! nt

[DrDebug]

3. Where were you, George?

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm

[DrDebug]

15. The document

George Herbert Walker Bush is one of the very few Americans who does not recall where he was when JFK was killed. Yet, the following document, recently declassified, places him very close to Dallas within 2 hours of JFK's assassination:

[Bluebear]

20. I took the liberty

of putting this in the thread heading. I knew I had seen it somewhere, thank you for that link.

[DrDebug]

28. No problem

I just found it myself as well. I'm still busy reading all this stuff :)

[kainah]

131. and he said he didn't know where he was

because other documents have come out before that show he was in Dallas. But the FBI always said it was another George (or GHW?) Bush. I can't remember the specifics but I know it exists. Curiouser and curiouser, as they say.....

[AFSCME girl]

24. Thank you for posting this pic,

DrDeBug....I miss him so much :cry:

AFSCME girl

[DrDebug]

32. We all do. It was before my time

But JFK was a great president. We could use some great leaders like John F. Kennedy right now. The people with a heart and who do the right thing in the end.

So that's his legacy. Keep it alive. Keep JFK in your heart as a rolemodel.

[AFSCME girl]

66. I will, Dr.D..

and thank you again. It would have been a totally different world had JFK, MLK, and RFK fully lived out their lives...

AFSCME girl :hi:

[AuntiBush]

125. Did the Civil War really EVER end, culturally?

Seriously. Did it? I question this now... setiments building for years along the respected bible-belts, deep-rooted hatred and the south mentality with all respect towards fellow DU'ers in these areas, I hope you know what I mean.

Thanks for the great link DrDebug. Bookmarking now. Shew.

[kainah]

132. not yet, anyway n/t

[leftchick]

149. That is one hell of a link....

How long was poopy working for the CIA before it became official?



great photo. :(

[Sanity Claws]

4. So is that why Kennedy went to Dallas,

where he was assassinated? Did Daddy Bush actually make sure JFK went to a city where he could be assassinated?

[Bluebear]

6. "Some people say that"

So they had a false sense of security going to Dallas instead.

[Sanity Claws]

7. Really?

Please bear with me. Had Kennedy planned to go to Houston but instead went to Dallas because of a perceived threat? Sorry, but I'm too young to have lived through it and remember it.

[Bluebear]

11. read the above link that drdebug provided

It will make your head spin. Of course, nothing like that could happen in the US. :) Just coincidences.

Google George De Mohrenschildt while you are at it, a Dallas socialite who was a personal friend of Poppy's since the 40's... and who came to be Lee Harvey Oswald's closest friend. (Why would a la-di-da like de Mohrenschildt be tangled up with a nobody like Oswald?)

PS in 1976, de Mohrenschildt went public that he thought Oswald didn't kill Kennedy. And in 1977 de Mohrenschildt committed suicide by a gunshot to the head. But these are just coincidences and internet rumors. Right? :)

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Oswald was just the scapegoat

who knew too much. I still wonder about Ruby. Was Ruby involved or what? I saw a documentary on the history channel and they had an interview with a brother or something like that and the brother claimed Ruby loved Kennedy and that's why he went after Oswald. Just revenge and he didn't want people thinking the Jews killed Kennedy since he was Catholic and everything and how people were back then with that. I don't know for sure if someone had him killed by Ruby or if it was just a happy coincidence for the people behind it and he was going to take the fall anyways. Or they knew he'd be gone anyways cause of all the stuff about him being in Russia and all he done there.

[Cooley Hurd]

60. I've always found it difficult to accept that Ruby killed Oswald...

...out of despondence over Kennedy's death. Why would a mafia thug with stature (within Dallas circles) and money throw it all away over the assassination? It just doesn't compute...

[loudsue]

140. Ruby had terminal cancer. He had nothing to lose by shutting up Oswald

It was all part of the deal.

:kick:

[RaleighNCDUer]

33. That wouldn't have been suicide by gunshot to the back of the

head, would it?

[gordianot]

34. As an old fart I remember that one before the Internet(s).

[Zerex71]

138. Something similar was discussed in Don DeLillo's "Libra".

At the time, there was talk of "doing Kennedy" in more than one Southern city, Miami being one of them, and possibly of Houston as well. Though DeLillo's masterpiece is half fiction, or largely fiction based on real events, nevertheless it was made clear that the "opposing forces" were setting up to get Kennedy in any one of a number of places.

The bottom line is, I'm sure BFEE had a hand in this. Like everything else evil about the 20th century, they are right up in the thick of this, too. They represent the absolute most evil elements in the corporate-military-political-industrial juggernaut.

[FreedomAngel82]

8. I've studied this for a few years now

and on the day that he was in Dallas the Secret Service did a few things they weren't supposed to. He wasn't supposed to ride in an unarmed vehicle like that and if you watch the video of the route you can see when it turns down the path the secret service men abandon him instead of staying with him, Mrs. Kennedy and the governor but instead went to Johnson's vehicle. The crowd also gets less packed as well as they go closer to that building where Oswald was supposed to have fired the shot where before hand for miles the crowd was packed literally. So a lot of strange things that day. Then there's the photo of Poppy at the police station when he claims he doesn't remember where he was and didn't even try to make an excuse like Nixon. Plus Nixon made reference to Operation Zapara which was the name of an oil company Poppy had in Texas.

[Sanity Claws]

13. I never used to believe in conspiracies

But after reading this, and today's story linking Neil Bush to the new pope, I now believe in a huge conspiracy or cabal. Oh my God. It's too awful to fully comprehend.

edited to correct spelling error

[Bluebear]

16. Your words are my words.

I thought it too far-fetched.

[suziedemocrat]

94. "It's too awful to fully comprehend." Exactly!! PURE EVIL!! n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

62. This is very, very creepy!

[Book Lover]

63. The picture I've seen

has 41 at the Book Depository just after the assassination

[Sanity Claws]

78. No don't see it

The guy looks shorter and heavier than Daddy Bush.
I also think Bush would have been too smart to be caught hanging around the scene of the crime like that.

[FreedomAngel82]

114. There's another picture

of Poppy Bush at an oil place and confirmed it's him and it looks just like that picture. The little belly, hair slicked back. It is SO Poppy. Check out this picture and look at the black and white one. It's so Poppy.

[WI_DEM]

95. he doesn't look like Bush to me

besides GHWB would be too smart to be caught in a picture outside the depository building.

[brettdale]

144. wow

wow never seen that picture before.

[brettdale]

147. Cant some computer geeks blow up this photo

The photo of the texas book depository couldnt this be blown up by some computer tech geek person, so we can get a closer look at the guy who looks like a young Bush Snr.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. At that time

Kennedy was campaigning for that year. He was going to various places and Dallas was on the list to visit. I don't know if it was a coincidence or what. I do remember reading once how Kennedy didn't want to go to Dallas. Now it makes sense. I always thought he either knew or something inside him knew.

[Les BOOGIE]

23. There was a full page ad against him in the Dallas paper.

I think it was Nellie Connally that said something like (re. crowds in Dallas) "You can't say that Dallas doesn't love you, Mr. President"

[Les BOOGIE]

19. JFK spent the night at the Rice Hotel in Houston Nov 21 1963. nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

40. Don't tell me Condi was in on it, too!? nt

[Bluebear]

47. snarf!

[Megahurtz]

5. I always thought that they

had something to do with this.
And I wouldn't be surprised if someone on their side sabotaged JFK Jr.'s plane so he wouldn't carry on the legacy.
The Bush family is truely evil :evilgrin: to me, and at this point I almost think that George Sr. is presently worse than G.W.

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. I've thought that ever since I began delving into him during

the Gulf War. During the eighties there was all that bru-ha-ha about Andropov becoming Premier of Russia and being the former KGB chief, but nobody worried about former CIA chief Bush being vice-president.

I've never thought at dimson was anything more than a front for the real evil power. God will, I'm sure, forgive W for he honestly knows not what he doeth.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. I'm sure W knows

I'm sure he knows all the family secrets. At the white house website there is a video of him with Mrs. King and she presented him a painting of her husband. Watch what he says and the reactions. It's quite chilling.

[kilgore65]

36. Link?

Can you provide one?

[FreedomAngel82]

44. I went to the site

and searched in their engine but all it brought up was pictures. Maybe you can try and get something. :shrug:

[catzies]

65. Here you go. Official whitehouse.gov link with photo

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020121-1.html

[FreedomAngel82]

112. Glad you found it

Aren't these people just nuts? That gave me chills.

[Megahurtz]

52. I've done some digging too

on the Bush Cabal. Pretty creepy.
There is definitely a pattern with these people.

[Eloriel]

55. When he was President, I used to ask myself

somewhat rhetorically (altho in retrospect I should've made it not rhetorical at all), "What does it mean to have a former CIA chief as President of the U.S.?" (I already had plenty of misgivings about the CIA, by that time, tho they were just misgivings. Now I know for sure, a lot of it, anyway.

[FreedomAngel82]

10. I always thought that too

Senior is worse then W. W is just a fool and takes his orders from someone else (Poppy whether he realizes it or not). The Bush family is evil. I also think that JFK, RFK, MLK and JFK junior's all tied together. Find out who killed JFK and you solved the mystery. I remember when JFK junior's plane crashed. It felt strange. Like I was expecting it to happen. Does anybody know about the plane that he was on that day? I think it was a private jet?

[Les BOOGIE]

17. He was flying his own single engine plane at night and he was

an inexperienced low time pilot. I doubt any conspiracy theory on this.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. I'm not sure with that though

:shrug: I haven't looked enough into JFK junior's life to know. I think he was starting politics and people had high expectations of him cause of his father. Since that was a few years back did the plane just crash or did it blow up? I can't remember exactly.

[Les BOOGIE]

25. It crashed over water at night, a very common occurrence when

the pilot loses reference to the horizon and gets vertigo.

[Megahurtz]

54. I'm not sure either

I just really would not be surprised if the Bush Cabal had something to do with JFK Jr. too. I think he was going to pursue politics. I certainly would not rule out the possibility of their involvement.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

58. He (JFK jr) had just written a scathing article about * in his magazine...

I think it was called George.

[theboss]

68. He wasn't starting politics

He had a weird political magazine but that was it. And he was an inexperience pilot who should have never have been flying over water at night.

For the record, the popular right-wing nutter theory at the time was that Hillary had him killed to eliminate a potential New York Senate opponent.

[asjr]

31. I may be in the minority here, but I have felt ever since it

happened that Paul Wellstone's airplane was tinkered with. I truly believe it. It seems anytime the BFEE is around someone dies.

[mapatriot]

27. JFK, Jr.

While all of this is fascinating and not out of the rhealm of possibility, JFK, Jr. was an inexperienced pilot, flying his own two prop plane, at dusk, in fog. The other deaths...maybe... But Jr. just lived on the edge and took one too many foolish risks.

[lala_rawraw]

39. I think we know, don't we? Read Liberty Lobby Case

[Spencer10]

136. Wow.

I just read about the Liberty Lobby case. Amazingly, I had never heard about it, but it's well documented. Geez. At least now I know it's not all conspiracy. It's all quite frightening when you look at the larger picture.

[loudsue]

141. Is there a link for the Liberty Lobby case??

What's it about?

:kick:

[lala_rawraw]

150. Well no, it is a conspiracy, just not a theory n/t

[smirkymonkey]

96. Funny, I was just thinking about the death of JFK Jr.

Is that case closed? Even if it is, I still have the feeling that it wasn't JUST an accident.

I put nothing past the BFEE - There was no greater threat to the Bushes rise to power except for the Kennedys.

[suziedemocrat]

98. And people have wondered if Bush Sr. was Deep Throat.

If he had something to do with:
- JFK's death
- and also Nixon's resignation
- and he was head of the CIA
- he might have been involved in the attempted assignation of Reagan when he was VP
- and he was President
- and I'm sure had something to do with Iran/Contra
- and then these fraudulent elections (while his OTHER son is Governor of Florida)
- and his son is President
- and we get attacked by a rouge son of a Saudi Bush Buddy
- and we go to war in Iraq on faulty intelligence.

If all this is true - he was by far the most important man in the 20th century. I've got to tell you, I feel stupid just speculating about this. But people are laying out the facts - and it scares the hell out of me. This guy is literally EVERYWHERE.

I have this fantasy of Saddam Hussein bringing all this out in his trial. Maybe a foolish notion - but Saddam MIGHT know some pretty juicy secrets - and he has nothing to lose.

[Megahurtz]

108. Kick

n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

111. If so that would be

pretty damning. Of course Bush people still believe Hussein attacked us on 9/11 and they had wmd's so why would they believe him on Bush with all this stuff? Only thing with "Deep Throat" is wasn't he supposed to be ill? Is Poppy ill? He could be him. I wouldn't be surprised. He's involved in everything else. I think he's the person running the show now days but of course junior thinks it's him. :eyes: Rove probably takes his orders from Poppy.

[suziedemocrat]

129. A School Teacher today told me he thinks Saddam has ties w/ Al Quieda.

This man seemed very reasonable and intelligent. But the teacher's lounge either has Fox News or "The Price is Right" - so where would he hear any differently?

[lala_rawraw]

151. Yes, just like his daddy and the Nazi's he helped make happen...

This makes the "mob" look like just a family biz. Don't forget China by the way, where our boy was sent as the face of US diplomacy. I fear they are selling this country off in parts for their own profits.

[Kansas Wyatt]

21. There is an interesting website that has a very good analogy of this.

I don't recall the exact link, but I think it is bush jfk II or something like that. It covers how closely the Bush family is tied treasonous activities against this country, including the assassination of JFK, and how Shrub disappeared from his primary campaign right before JFK Jr. was killed and Shrub did not return until a few days after his death (nobody knew where Shrub was or went, and he suddenly started winning after JFK Jr.'s death).

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Interesting on Bush and Jfk junior

I didn't know that part. What was JFK junior involved in at the time?

[Kansas Wyatt]

75. I do not know how accurate this is or where I ran across it....

But I recall something about JFK Jr. was working on an investigative story for his magazine about his father's assassination, without any of the cover-up. I do not know how accurate that is though. The website that I wrote about has some very damning information about the BFEE linked to the JFK assassination and if it involved only a fraction of that information, that would not look too good for 'Boy Wonder' trying to get elected, let alone the nomination.

[FreedomAngel82]

109. Interesting

So that would be a reason for him disappearing for a few days on the campaign trail. I, personally, always had a feeling his crash dealt with the same people. Of course I could be WAY off for all I know and he really could've been just a bad pilot. If he was a bad pilot why did he drive in the first place? Wouldn't he have had someone else drive him somewhere in the plane? :shrug:

[Megahurtz]

70. Seems suspicious to me.....

It sure makes me wonder:shrug:

[Spencer10]

101. I think the name of the site was

jfkii.com; however, the site has basically been scrubbed so the only way to access the page is to use the wayback machine at www.archive.org. Any of the first 4 dates that appear will show you the page. All of the other dates listed are for a video being sold re JFKJr's "murder". Again, I'm just giving you the information I found; I have no idea if it's truth or conspiracy. The page is filled with allegations.

[FreedomAngel82]

110. It could be just consperiacy

but it's worth looking into anyways. Nothing would surprise me with these people. If Poppy killed Kennedy then junior could've killed his son. :shrug:

[Sanity Claws]

26. Clinton is hanging out with Daddy Bush

I don't mean to change the topic of this thread. Just wondering whether Clinton has an inkling about this. Maybe Clinton is hanging out with Daddy Bush because he does know of this connection.

[sabra]

29. I read some where that Clinton has connections to Bush...

I don't know about that one, but it was an article for 1997 predicting W to be prez in 2k, and continue the Bush "legacy"

[Name removed]

71. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[FreedomAngel82]

115. Neat you got to meet him

Kennedy was way before my time (as far as I know of course ;) ) but I still feel connected to the whole assisination mystery. :shrug: Strange thing really. It's become my obsession.

[FreedomAngel82]

41. Who knows

I think it's strange how Clinton is hanging around people who witch hunted him. I wish Kerry could get on this. That would be great. Oh and notice how BCCI popped up eh?

[Sanity Claws]

45. No, I didn't notice that BCCI had popped up again

I think I recall hearing some kind of Italian prosecution concerning BCCI was going on but nothing specific.
Could you provide a link?

[FreedomAngel82]

120. I saw it somewhere

in a previous post in the thread.

[theboss]

69. Is Clinton planning on getting some kind of death bed confession?

Maybe Poppy had Mozart killed as well.

Or am I confusing movies here?

[merci_me]

30. If you really want to read some good investigative reporting

Try to lay your hands on articles that appeared in the Oil and Gas Journal in the early 70's. This was a good 15 years before we moved to Texas.

I know it seems odd, but my husband was a geologist and use to get the magazine at his office. About that time, they started running a series of reports on the JFK assassination, then MLK and RFK and Watergate. This series ran every month for at least 3 years.

I still have every article in a box in the garage and haven't looked at them in years, but at one time I was reading everything I could get my hands on and using up hundreds of highlighters.

With all I read, they had things I never found anyplace else and the connections with the industry, from Texas to Florida (how about that!) were everywhere.

One picture that pops into my mind and I did look it up in another source several years ago........do you recall the three "hobos" who were arrested and then the police just lost track of them? One of them in the picture was wearing what appeared to be regulation police uniform shoes, exactly like the cop taking them in.

Anyway, several years ago, when it came out that Woody Harrelson's father was a hit man in jail for killing a judge in San Antonio, the paper showed a picture of Woody's father (who Woody strongly resembles), it's like a light went on. One of those three "hobos" in the picture looks just like Harrelson's father, given he was more than 20 years younger in the picture. If you have access to a picture of the "three hobos", take a look and think about Woody's fathers activities in Texas.

M

[RaleighNCDUer]

43. You know, of course, that before he died Harrelson claimed to

have been in on the hit on JFK.

[merci_me]

51. No, I didn't know...............

I didn't even know Harrelson's father had died. I do recall that two of the hobos were thought to be Frank Sturgis and Hunt (E. Howard??) of Watergate fame. The Oil and Gas Journal tied all of those events together.

Fortunately, I stopped researching the assassination before the internet was developed. If I ever got back to searching with the info on the net, I'd be glued to my computer forever.

I shouldn't have even clicked into this topic. It could be very tempting. One of the reasons all of my research is packed away where I would need to really dig to get it out.

M

[Spencer10]

73. Boy do I know the feeling!

I spent an inordinate amount of time over a 2-3 year period reading all of this stuff, with my head swimming and/or pounding, and never knowing how much was truth, part truth or simply conspiracy. By the end of my investigative time, I just had to walk away from it because it shook the very foundation of my belief in America and what it stands for. Sadly, though, I feel there was a decent amount of truth in what I read. But even sadder to me is the fact that it will continue to be covered up forever because the people/family that are in power now are too powerful and too willing to do anything to achieve their goals. And even if nothing I read was true, I will stand by my statement that the family in charge now is scary and willing to do anything to achieve their goals, and their goals don't include you and me.

[Fridays Child]

133. Your O & G Journal articles should be preserved in a digital format.

How huge of a project would it be to find them and scan them into pdf documents?

[merci_me]

135. I know where they are

but it's among a lot of packed boxes in a storage room in the garage. If you're familiar with the boxes that moving companies call "book boxes", the articles tightly fill one of those. I have no idea how they have come through the humidity down here, for purposes of being clearly scanned. Plus, I didn't try to keep them neat, so they have lots of highlighting and margin notes.

[FreedomAngel82]

46. Why am I not surprised

that Florida and Texas pop up? That's where the Bush family has their roots in everything.

[DrDebug]

49. Is this the person you are talking about?

And if you look at Charles Harrelson on the right, from one of his arrest mug-shots, you can see that every single feature is consistent with the blond-headed tramp. Now, it's not available to me to be able to stop and go back in time and take a ruler and hold it next to the tramp's face, and then take a ruler and hold it next to Charles Harrelson after he is arrested. So I can't tell you an exact scale. But if you put them to approximately the same size, you can tell that this is just ... either is positively this individual or is an exact look-a-like. One particular important thing is that if you look at the side burn ... he almost has no sideburn, Harrelson, he just cannot grow a sideburn. And the hair is cut right at ... almost the top fifth of the ear. And if you look at the tramp, it's the same haircut.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/lois1.htm

[merci_me]

53. Actually no.......

I've never seen that picture of Harrelson before. The one I saw was one of his earlier mugshots in 1960.

[RaleighNCDUer]

57. Wow. He does look a lot like Woody. nt

[suziedemocrat]

104. Three Hobos and Harrelson's Pictures.

Three Hobos in 1963:


Charles Harrelson 1960:

[Must_B_Free]

145. they look like different men to me

[slutticus]

37. Holy Shit! UofH? I'm sitting there right now...

:wow:

[Fridays Child]

38. Whether or not this is true--and, like others, I've suspected a connection

--this guy, Adamson, doesn't seem very credible. And, unfortunately, that makes it easier for him to be dismissed as a crackpot.

[Bluebear]

42. It's just for interest sake. Like the Pope and Hinckley connections

All coincidences!

[Sanity Claws]

48. The pope and Hinckley?

Is this a joke or was there a connection? At this point, nothing would surprise me.
I always had a problem believing in conspiracies because at some point, someone will get pissed off and spill the beans. I guess I was wrong. You limit the cabal to a core few and associate with others who have power and can do things for you. The associates do not have to know the full picture -- they just want a quid pro quo for now.

[Bluebear]

50. Other threads here....

which prompted me to remember this one.

Neil Bush having dealings with the new Pope who last year made a wild point of saying Kerry shouldn't receive communion because of his abortion views....and a Hinckley brother who was supposed to dine with a Bush brother on the day of the Reagan assassination attempt.

[merci_me]

56. I believe that was also Neil, but

I believe he was dining with Hinkley's parents. There was some connection through Silverado or maybe it was one of Neil's telecoms dealings or were the telecoms later?

AND, not to leave baby bro Marvy out of the loop, his company had the security contract for the Twin Towers, until just a month or so before 9/11.

Editing to add one of the many links:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html

Mary

[FreedomAngel82]

116. Interesting

I didn't know that about baby brother. I knew there was some company who after 9/11 they had the contracts to the towers and got tons of cash.

[ooglymoogly]

59. and if there should be any loose cannons

fortunately they conveniently commit suicide...end of story

[FreedomAngel82]

117. Just like with

Lemme who was working with Clint Curtis on the last election. He out of nowhere committed "suicide" even though there are lots of strange things with that. I believe he was murdered and being followed and since he was excited about a case he was working on they had to take him out. You can read more at bradblog.com

[Nothing Without Hope]

61. Oh. My. God. Could it have been a combination CYA and distraction

to clear Bush of involvement in the assassination?

and redirection into harm's way in Dallas. Oh yes.

If Parrot was his man, they could have set it up so that he would be certain to have an alibi, but the investigation would deflect investigation. In the meantime, Bush was demonstrating his great concern for the safety of the president!

And how deeply suspicious. I wonder what is being made of this and where it will lead? I've always believed Kennedy's assassination was a political one, not a solo performance by Lee Harvey Oswald. And if there was a conspiracy, you can bet the Bush cartel was in it somewhere.

[FreedomAngel82]

118. What gave me away with that

and really helped confirmed me even more was when Jennings had this whole special on Kennedy last year around the anniversary of his death. It was on the history channel last week (probably still on there) and basically throughout the whole thing they tried really hard to show that it was Oswald and discredit Oliver Stone's movie "JFK" by claming Oswald was an expert shot and had this whole target paper thing where you wrote your score on it and he was 49/50 on the score. Of course they could've easily made that up. Then at the end Jennings said there was no consperiacy no matter what people believed and that Oswald was just a crazy man who hated Kennedy because of the whole Russia thing (they really pounded on that). I was so pissed off.

[dhinojosa]

64. What happened to the document...

the document link is gone?

[BlueIris]

67. Hmmm. I'd always heard that even among respectable

hard-core Kennedy conspiracy researchers, the rumor that H.W. was "Nixon's hatchet man in Dallas" was 99.99% myth. I still don't know what to believe about that part of the assassination lore.

[applegrove]

72. Take a step back - breath... this is an old conspiracy theory.. there

never was any proof... just sad people who could not deal with the loss of Kennedy and keep stuck there.

Presidents get threatened all the time. Tis why the nutjobs are all investigated today. Why? Because Bush was shot by a nutjob.

Come on back to 2005. We have things here to deal with. Things that actually will change history.

[Bluebear]

74. Begging your pardon, did you read the threads about the Pope...

having dealings with the Bushes, a Hinckley brother dining with a Bush brother, etc, numerous 'coincidences' associated with the Bushes... indeed did you read through any of this thread?

As to taking a step back & "breath", well, I didn't think the post was hysterical but each to their own reading I guess.

[DrDebug]

76. Ignore him

He is just a distraction. I think that you are in the right direction. Too many bits and pieces all of sudden started to fit together. That's the point when people want you to look the other way. It means that you are on the right track. Keep on going!

:toast:

[Bluebear]

77. I think some people can't face the fact that anything sinister could occur

It goes against the trust we need to have as humans in humanity. But the odds that all these 'degrees of separation' could occur over and over again are prohibitively astronomical.

[DrDebug]

79. It is all related

JFK was the starting point. Why did George H.W. Bush suddenly become the director of the CIA? Why was he Reagan's running mate? After all Reagan was a one-page-man. That meant that most decisions were not taken by Ronald Reagan. Just read the whole thread. It contains the many more names Martin Luther King Jr, The Pope, Robert Kennedy, Paul Wellstone, 9/11. It's all a continuation of the conspiracy and it's one conspiracy on top of the next.

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
- J. Edgar Hoover

Edit: Of course I misspelled *Sr.

[Gman]

99. To paraphrase Hoak from Driving Ms Daisy...

regarding these assasinations, "They're all the same people."

Wellstone, Carnahan, JFK, RFK, MLK, and others were all killed by the right wing. The same right wing that overthrew the government of the United States in December 2000 and killed the above mentioned individuals.

[Spencer10]

80. And sadly, there are many more coincidences

that aren't mentioned here. Again, I'm not saying all or any of it is true but the fact that they occur over and over staggers the imagination.

[DrDebug]

83. Welcome to the DU BTW + Re:

There are far too many coincidences. You have said something very correct: Not everything is true, but not everything is false either. There is some disinformation in all the stories, but we have to accept that, because you can't weed it out anymore. That's another reason why the MSM doesn't touch this stuff with 10 feet pole.

[Name removed]

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[FreedomAngel82]

119. Something I'm wondering

is there a Kennedy group to talk about all this?

[catzies]

85. Whaaaa????? What is this line of yours in your post???

"Because Bush was shot by a nutjob."

You mean JFK, right?

[applegrove]

91. Sorry - I meant Kennedy.. because Kennedy was shot by a nutjob.

Sorry.

[applegrove]

92. You guys play into the hands of the GOP by taking DUers who are

stuck and having a hard time dealing with having a lying asshole for a president. And you stir the pot.

I've seen freepers and trolls do this at other sites.

This is just to hurt the hurt more.

Did you every wonder if the manipulation of someone already stuck ... to your own ends.. do you think it might just be a public health issue?

And to do this on the internet where there will be a record of sorts.

I mean I can think of one or maybe 10,000 trial lawyers who may want to have a kick at the GOP campaign to keep the DUers who really are stuck (and desperately looking for a quick out of having Bush as president) and could become permanently stuck.. I mean it will be written about.

How Bush not only handed the Presidency over to a gang who use the tools of the sociopaths, but he purposely lied to his people after they had been attacked, and the GOP gets online and baits the wounded.

That book will be written. The library of Congress already catalogues some DU discussions. Have a great time you trolls. Have fund making the wounds of Americans worse. That is exactly what sociopaths would do if they got found out. Divide their opposition at any cost to the people.


At any cost.

And all of it online!

Fact is Bush won by political tactics & tacticians who stole the hearts and minds of Americans. There were some irregularities. Bush Sr. probably had more dirty dealings when he was head of the CIA. The Bush family could not have been everywhere? Much of this stuff is plants. The 'devil' the GOP sociopaths are in these details they feed. We should be stepping back from the details if we are true democrats. We should be encouraging each other to move on and fight the greater fight (for our well-being) instead of for the election that happened or the Bush family. We are doing well on our attacks against their patterns - the overall patterns do not lie or cannot be toyed with as easily as the details).

Ignore the trolls who spoon-feed you what you most desperately want to hear. If you did not witness it with your own eyes.. you do not know about the Bush family. These are just rumours and remember what they say: "if it is too good to be true, it probably is" which is an adage about how to not get taken in by sociopaths (in the GOP in this case) and their fun games at the expense of your mental health.

Step out of this game. If there was dirt of Bush Sr - it would have been brought to light when he was VP or President if it was of a national security nature.

[bpilgrim]

106. we CONTROL the press

just like the elite used to.

must be making plenty of folks VERY nervous.

nazi supporters, political assassinations, terrorist attacks, a TRUE story as old as time.

what are your credentials on these matters i wonder :shrug:

peace

[ElectroPrincess]

143. Yeah it's all Clinton and us (liberal democrat's) fault?

You claim that the left and DU scare Americans? Hey, how 'bout this psycho version of "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" Bush Co. has had US (The World!) on since 9/11?

Even if half of the above claims (plus plus) are flatly disproven, the Bush Family Dynasty is filled with horrid and ANTI- working class characters.

What's worse is that they are highly successful at this "fool the common people" shell game. If it's not FEAR, then it's inappropriate homo-phobic, pro-life insanity, celebrity sex hype/prosecution OR even every single *white* child abduction, sex act murder.

The forgoing are all issues that keep Bubba and Earl from focusing on their pocket-books. PT Barnum and Goebbels are rolling over in their graves since "the Nazis came out of the woodwork."

These people are wealthy, ruling class slime. They outrightly own FOX and intimidate the (now mindless) USA Corporate Mass Media.

Finally, don't kid yourself that many Democratic representatives are not part of this "we love MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS, OIL PROFITS and the WAR MACHINE" cronyism.

Again, look up PNAC documentation follow the money trails. ;)

[applegrove]

159. I agree with all the things you said. Just not with the Bushes were

there with Hitler, Bushes were there with Genghas Khan. There is plenty of evidence of cronyism, middle class and working class hate, socipathy in term of the political operatives, all sorts of ties to the Oil and thus the problems in the middle east. And now Bush tries to create a 'myth' about how he & the neocons make the Middle EAst a peaceful place.

I totally agree.

I'm just saying with the stuff that comes along without proof. The theories that are not based on actual witnesses but excuses (the secret code in the diebold machines could erase itself).

That is what I am talking about. This other stuff you talk about - is completely obvious and valid and proven and common knowledge unless you watch Fox News.

I believe the WH to be filled with an evil bunch of sociopaths and religious patsies. I say to the people sussing out details on things where there is not a shred of proof - take a step back. There are many instances of the letter of the law being corrupted during the elections (vetting blacks with felony convictions but not Latinos). The truthful things go on and on too - except you are then living a world where there are facts & patterns of behavior and less changed of someone becoming mentally ill or being used by the right (and encouraged to make superficial connections not based in fact).

We need the message of the stuff there is ample proof of to get out. We need to not fall into the trap of getting 'proof' on the internet where there is no primary source from the internet to real life outside the internet. Otherwise..you all will be toys.

[Nostradammit]

156. Things like "discovering an ex-president was complicit in murder?"

Those kind of things actually change history.

[applegrove]

160. You mean Bush Sr.? Wait for the proof to come out in the Saddam

Trials. Forget Kennedy - that is just goofy. Wait for the stories to be written about Iraq in the 1980s when Bush Sr. was VP & president. And Iraq in the late 1970s when Bush Sr. was CIA director. Those are things we know took place. And yes it is normal for presidents to be aware some civilians will be killed during bombings, etc. So they are all pretty much complicit in murder (at least in the USA).

And actually there were summary executions of political foes in other countries all the way along. Zaire, Chili, etc. And encouraging wars to start in places to suit the USA.

Very common. So put the information in context. And then you go after the creep.

Because someone wrote a letter saying that someone was in danger when all presidents are in danger but Kennedy was particularly in the south.. well that is taking a jump. A late warning cannot be jumped into anything else. You have no proof that Bush Sr. was involved. There is not one shred of evidence.. just a whole lot of hope that you can find a way to take down the creepy House of Bush. And Hope is not fact. And I say you are being spoon-fed this stuff by repukes to keep you from the important task of noticing the irregularities in the present Bush WH.

Look at what the GOP did with Clinton to keep him (a brilliant communicator) from being popular. They spread rumors about murder, then started the whitewater investigation hoping to drag Clinton & his womanizing through the mud. Did you know that Clinton had an affair with a McDonald's employee who was later murdered?

See? That rumor alone would turn off a good portion of people. Clinton never got to defend himself. And these rumors about poppy Bush are just more of the same. Except they are no longer about turning you off Bush, but about turning moderates off the Dues and all.

That is why sociopaths cast aspersions (remember the rumor mill about McCain in the Carolinas?). They cast aspersions to separate groups and people from one another.

Don't be part of a sociopath's ploy.

Deal in fact. Not in rumors circulated or some 'information' surfacing in a way that spoon-feeds into your need to see an end to the Bush Creeps. It is sexy & fun and a lot less dreary than the hard work of living in a democracy that has been taken over by the elites and where you loose your news, your peace of mind and power. And where you have to work your ass off to take your life back from the monsters in the WHO.

Remember what they say - if the information is too good to be true, it probably is a lie.

[brettdale]

81. WTF WTF WTF WTF

how come this is the first time i heard this????? where the fu*k is the media? I will send this on to the national media list and everybody else I know.

[Spencer10]

82. Don't waste your time

The media won't do anything with any of this information. IMO, the media is also controlled by the powers that be.

[brettdale]

87. well if one speaks out

Well if you can find one good Journo, it may be worth it.

[Nostradammit]

157. You are reading the media, Jack.

Welcome to the New Media.

[DURHAM D]

84. At the time of the assassination I remember hearing stories about

H.L. Hunt, big Dallas oil man. Apparently Hunt was in the plaza openly celebrating on the day of Kennedy's death. H.L. was a complete crook (stole leases, etc. in Texas) but more important for his company he had opened up oilfields all over the middle east.

When he had legal problem with these middle east contracts in the 70's he hired John Connally (bought his silence?). His son Bunky Hunt (the fool who tried to corner the silver market) had close ties with the House of Saud dating back many, many years. Anyway, Hunt was a big repug and no doubt very close to Poppy Bush. The Hunt's have been using political contacts to fix things for years.

[FreedomAngel82]

123. I didn't know that

So everything leads back to Poppy Bush.

[brettdale]

88. Kick

Kick

[Spencer10]

89. Here's a couple of good quotes to keep in mind when

evaluating what is conspiracy and what is truth. The first is by Thomas Jefferson:

"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day. But a series of oppressions, ... pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly proves a deliberate systematic plan of reducing us to slavery."

And another good quote by FDR:

"In politics nothing happens 'by chance. If something happens, then you can bet that it was planned that way."

[Octafish]

90. Poppy then talked to J Edgar Hoover about the assassination.

Of course, it could've been "the other" George Bush of the Central Inelligence Agency.



SOURCE: http://www.internetpirate.com/bush.htm

My question: WHY DIDN'T GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH WARN THE SECRET SERVICE BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION?

[FreedomAngel82]

124. Simple really

So it could happen and he could get off with a clean slate (or so he thinks). It's really quite easy. He also called the CIA right after it happened and told about Oswald.

[Octafish]

134. Poppy's CIA since Nixon was a veep.

Remember when, FreedomAngel82?

Poppy Bush Involved in JFK Assassination -- BFEE's Spooked!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3274455

These turds are some crooks. Hoover, Dulles, Harriman, Johnson, Nixon and Bush are just a few. All connected to the nation's elite from the Rockefellers to the du Ponts -- the ones that didn't care much for FDR. Sigh. The only ones still around are the spawn of Harriman and Bush, to borrow a phrase from jmatson.

[tex-wyo-dem]

93. Now you know why...

Mike Malloy and others refer to the Bushes as the Bush Crime Family...

and aren't joking...

[coreystone]

97. I am a bit confused about the "box" at the lower left hand corner.

There is the handwritten number 62-2115-6, then there is the stamp. Contents "Searched" is blank. Contents "Indexed" is blank. "Serialiazed" is initialed. "Filed" is initialed. Then I believe the there is a date indicating "NOV ^ 12 1963". Then FBI - Houston".

Is the November 12, 1963 date being correctly observed by me??

From the site referenced, I found the following question:

"Was there any connection to Seal's murder 10 days after he threaten to expose George H.W. Bush Sr.'s drug operation? Why was George H.W. Bush's telephone number on Seal after he was murdered?"

It seems that SA (Special) Agent Kitchel did not file this memo until November 22, 1963. It is not clear when SA Kitchel had been notified by Bush, though it may be that it was at 1:45 (Houston Time - Central?) after Kennedy had been shot and had passed on.

There appears to be many other interesting elements of this memo which are not only not clear, but, not defined within the "time frame" events, but also of the date of the memo. It is addressed to SAC Houston. From where is SA Kitchel sending this memo from?? Houston?

?????????????

From the text of the memo:

"He (James Parrott} has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston". This certainly sounds as though the Bush communication to SA Kitchel was some time before the flight of JFK to Texas.

The references to the two individuals being able to provide more information about Parrott at the "Harris County Republican Party HQ's" is most interesting!

This site used to "vet" stuff like this. Would anybody care to help me!!

:-)

[OneBlueSky]

100. and then there's the two Oswalds . . .

Harvey and Lee . . .

http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/

the reason this is all so strange, so seemingly unbelievable, and yet so disturbing is that, given what we now know about the BFEE and all their connection, IT ALL FITS! . . .

while I never believed that Oswald was the "lone gunman" in Dealey Plaza, I also never imagined that a conspiracy of this scope and involving prominent Americans could possibly be anything other than nutcase ravings . . .

I no longer feel that way . . .

[Spencer10]

103. Here's an interesting quote from the page you referenced:

Exposing and understanding the two "Oswalds" will not solve the Kennedy assassination, but it does give us insight into the illegal covert capabilities of CIA operations and the ability of government agencies to manipulate evidence and conceal their knowledge and involvement with Oswald. We understand why witness testimony was altered and evidence fabricated.

We finally realize why Harvey Oswald was not allowed to stand trial and had to be eliminated. After 35 years, many pieces to this puzzle have fallen into place while while others are still elusive--but if you understand who Harvey and Lee Oswald really were, who created them and who directed them, then you will know who was responsible for the assassination of John Kennedy.

-- John Armstrong, University
of Minnesota, May 15, 1999

[FreedomAngel82]

127. As I mentioned in a previous post

I saw a little bit of the Jennings Kennedy thing and they all called him Lee Harvey Oswald. Never made any indication there were two of them. Maybe the person who shot Kennedy wasn't really an Oswald and just a name that he was given. :shrug:

[lovuian]

102. This just confirms to me that Bush knew!!!

and was probably part of a secret society of men who felt threatened by the Kennedys!!!

So sad!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

128. Even junior knows

Just watch the King thing from an earlier post. He makes a joke about "hanging the picture" and how he says it is really creepy to me. It could be nothing, but to me it reminds me of when a child knows a secret and wants to tell but doesn't so they do an "I know something you don't know" type of thing.

[bush_is_wacko]

105. Yes, I had heard this. It is an outrage that more

Americans don't KNOW the history of the BFEE!!! this family has been implicated in every criminal plot and government activity since WWI and we just keep letting them do it from generation to generation to generation. It is despicable and Americans need to take a long hard look at why they think it is OK to continue to let them SCREW them. The laziness and disconnectedness in this country is really inexcusable.

I guarantee you half of the Republicans out there KNOW this and will tell you straight to your face it is ALL Liberal rhetoric. They can verify the facts for themselves and have them repeated to them daily for years and they still believe the Liberals are the problem!

I don't know what the hell it takes for some. i guess some people need to hear a public televised special bulletin with the president of the United States of America admitting everything he and his family have ever done and then one of their infamous fundie preachers needs to follow behind to CONFIRM God agrees with EVERYTHING the president just told you. These people are truly brain dead IMO!

[Chomp]

107. Over 100 posts in this thread...

...and only 1 dissenting voice among them - Applegrove. That is a very, very depressing level of groupthink.

If 5% of the stuff discussed on this thread is true I'd be amazed. Much of it has repeatedly been shown to be without factual foundation.

Poppy being Deepthroat? JFK Jr.'s plane being brought down? Clinton drug dealing? Come on.

If I'm wrong, fine...but unless you have your information from somewhere other than the internet and chat rooms, then you lack requisite credibility.

The self-propelling consensus on this thread has a gossipy tone that reminds me of my mother and her menopausal, divorced friends moaning about their awful husbands over morning coffee:

"Oh, I know, I know...how dreadful....ohhhh, would you ever? I know..how simply awful...yes, oh yes..."

Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth, 50% of the American people have been turned into blobs of unquestioning, servile, brainwashed blancmange by a horrible, horrible administration. Now THERE is a fucking scandal bigger than any.

[90-percent]

113. BFEE

Gee, that's odd. The author's of posts 1 throuh 107 have all recently died from small plane crashes!

I sure as hell hope it stops there!

I'm in favor of discussion and conjecture about all the accidents and cooincidences and assassinations. Funny the only deaths are dems - Gerry Ford, Ronnie and G. Wallace all survived their assasinations. So did Larry Flynt, come to think of it. Mortality rate of dems and moral leaders seems to be much worse than repubs.

Another gossippy cooincidence?

-85%

edit: spelling

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

121. Why is it so distressing to see people question?

I've only seen a few posts that state anything authoritatively. The rest are people wondering i.e. people ADMITTING that their thoughts are conjecture - not stating it as a fact.

There is NOTHING more "group think" than accepting the original stery of a lone gunman given most of the stuff written in the Warren Report.

People who fret about people who wonder make me laugh.

The REAL group think is by those that parrot the official story no matter HOW many fucking holes it has.

[Bluebear]

130. "People who fret about people who wonder make me laugh."

Really. And I don't know, but I just like your use of the word fret better than the poster's use of the word blancmange. :)

[MADem]

139. I agree there is a lot of far out stuff being rehashed here

--most of it is rather old news, too, but the Poppy as Deep Throat possibility DOES exist. Poppy wanted to be Nixon's VP, he campaigned for it, and was pissed off that he didn't get it. He campaigned AGAIN when they dumped Agnew, and was rejected AGAIN. Instead he ended up as RNC Chairman. That's a job where you have sources EVERYWHERE. So, it is possible. Some think Bob Dole is DT, because when they said DT was sick and near death (and did not Poppy have pnuemonia around that time?) Dole had almost bled to death and ended up in Walter Reed for a couple of weeks, touch and go. It was not widely publicized at the time, either.

We'll only know when he dies, whosoever DT may be.

[AuntiBush]

122. What!?! OMG Tens Times Over

:WTF: I know documentation and this looks authentic! Shew, where did someone find this? Nat'l Archives? Curious. Wow.

Poppy Bush you bastard! Like poppy, now son!

Assuming the Kennedy's knew this, is there a reason then why Sen. Kennedy hasn't pushed this? Shew... what a revelation.

I'll toss a 20 buck bet on this it NEVER makes it to a TV MSN WHORE!

[LatePeriduct]

126. So it was you Bush.....I knew it...

You scumbag, you knew they were going to kill Kennedy and you did nothing about it!

You and all the rest of the members of this cult are as far as I'm concerned, treasonous traitors to the United States of America....

http://www.yuricareport.com

You have lied to everyone, and covered up the fact the elections were rigged for your son by this freakish cult headed by members like a one Jack Abramoff.....

I write this now as a declaration. You should be put in jail, and remembered for the words you spoke against Kennedy.

[Liberty Belle]

137. My daughter is writing a term paper on JFK's assassination,

so I've been reading up on various conspiracy theories.

The 1977 House Committee that investigated, 14 years after the Warren Commission Report, concluded that JFK's death was most likely a conspiracy. That's based largely on audio evidence indicated that there were at least 4 shots fired--including 1 or more from the direction of the grassy knoll.

In the '90s, however, some extremely interesting documents were declassified. They indicated that the CIA has been covering up proof that Oswald went to Mexico City just weeks before the assassination. He visited the Cuban and Soviet embassies there, trying unsuccessful to get a visa. Oswald had previously met with organized crime figures in New Orleans.

Now for the startling part: someone impersonated Oswald on the telephone and implicated Oswald for associating with a known KBG Soviet assassin. The CIA faked evidence to cover this up after the assassination.

Additional documents show that J.Edgar Hoover discussed the Oswald-Soviet assasin link with LBJ within 48 hours after the assassination. When LBJ appointed Earl Warren to head up the Warren commission, he ordered Warren to make sure that the commission's report would confirm a lone-assassin theory of Oswald killing Kennedy without a conspiracy. Ostensibly this whitewash was ordered to avoid triggering a nuclear war, if the public found out that the Soviets had been involved.

It sounds to me like the Mafia hired Oswald to kill Kennedy, then faked the call linking Oswald to a Soviet assassin to throw suspicion onto the KGB. Others have speculated that LBJ may have ordered the hit in order to gain the presidency, then covered up his tracks.

Was Poppy working for the CIA in those days? Could he have been involved in the faked calls or coverup afterwards?

[dhinojosa]

154. Wow! That must be some paper your daughter is writing....

She's is getting down in detail is this for college or grade school?

[BringEmOn]

142. Patsies were being set up in a number of southern cities

where Kennedy was scheduled to visit. Poppy was doing his part.

[thecai]

146. "News" Better Late Than Never

Keep raising awareness, keep up the good work! The missing pieces of the puzzle are all fitting together...The B*sh Family are going down in history as one of the most corrupt...
They sure never cease to amaze me.

[TheUnspeakable]

148. Paranoid Shift....

This can never be posted too much-Here's the last paragraph......

"Nor, finally, is it in any way a "theory" that the one, single name that can be directly linked to the Third Reich, the US military industrial complex, Skull and Bones, Eastern Establishment good ol' boys, the Illuminati, Big Texas Oil, the Bay of Pigs, the Miami Cubans, the Mafia, the FBI, the JFK assassination, the New World Order, Watergate, the Republican National Committee, Eastern European fascists, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, CIA headquarters, the October Surprise, the Iran/Contra scandal, Inslaw, the Christic Institute, Manuel Noriega, drug-running "freedom fighters" and death squads, Iraqgate, Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, the blood of innocents, the savings and loan crash, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the "Octopus," the "Enterprise," the Afghan mujaheddin, the War on Drugs, Mena (Arkansas), Whitewater, Sun Myung Moon, the Carlyle Group, Osama bin Laden and the Saudi royal family, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, and the presidency and vice-presidency of the United States, is: George Herbert Walker Bush.

"Theory?" To the contrary.

It is a well-documented, tragic and—especially if you're paranoid—terrifying fact."

<http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/011004Hasty/011004hasty.html>

[lala_rawraw]

152. We might want to remember where Bolton was as well...

Just a reminder that the plans people our now out of the CIA closet and running things openly.

[Spencer10]

153. I'm not following you, Lala.

[mogster]

155. Here's the text cleaned up for copying

United States Government Memorandum

To : SAC; HOUSTON
Date : 11-22-63
From : SA GRAHAM W. KITCHEL
Subject : UNKNOWN SUBJECT; ASSASINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY

At 1:45 PM Mr. George H.W. Bush, president of the Zapata Off-shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas.

BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in the recent weeks, the day and source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston.

BUSH stated that PARROT is possibly a student at the University of Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Mrs. FAWLEY, telephone number SU 2-5239, or ARLINE SMITH, telephone number JA 9-9194 of the Harris County Republican Party Headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding the identity of PARROTT.

BUSH stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on 11-23-63. His office telephone number is CA 2-0395.

(Stamps and signatures. Stamped FBI HOUSTON, NOV. 1963. File no: 62-2115-6. Unclassified: 10-15-93 by 9803 BDD/IGSR)

---------------------

Please someone, check for errors ;-)

[spanone]

158. So bush 1 phoned this in just minutes after television announce it.

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/K/htmlK/kennedyjf/kennedyjf.htm

~snip~ The first word came over the television airwaves at 1:40 P.M. EST when CBS News anchorman Walter Cronkite broke into As the World Turns with an audio announcement over a bulletin slide: "In Dallas, Texas, three shots were fired at President Kennedy's motorcade in downtown Dallas. ~snip~