Rawstory news breakers, please start a brand new thread for dialup DUers!!

[NVMojo]

When the news breaks here! Some of our fellow DUers are on dialup and the other threads have gotten too long and load too slowly!

Thanks!!!

[rodeodance]

1. that includes me-thanks

[DearAbby]

2. kickin

[wakeme2008]

3. Dial Up,,, My grandpappy told me about something called that

:evilgrin:

[Kingofalldems]

4. Let's have it right here

Story not up yet.

[DulceDecorum]

5. Like sand through an hour glass

these are the minutes of our DU lives ...

[truth2power]

6. Thanks Mojo. I think I look like that skeleton in the last thread. n/t

[jasmeel]

7. it's up!

[DulceDecorum]

8. Anticipation

anticipation is making me wait.....

Its UP

[patricia92243]

9. My dial-up getting so slow is why it aggrivates me to death when the mods

combine threads. Combining them makes the thread so long that a lot of times I find myself not reading a thread only because it is sooooo
long.

[ogradda]

13. I either don't load it

or I find a chore to do while I'm waiting. I hate those big long threads.

[NVMojo]

14. the mods can be such control freaks and they are probably on

dsl/broadband so don't realize the trouble that causes for the DU readers and donors.

Hang in there.

[LeftyMom]

10. it's up now nt

[DulceDecorum]

11. Guckert slept over at the White House???

Guckert made more than three dozen excursions to the White House when there were no scheduled briefings. On many of these days, the Press Office held press gaggles aboard Air Force One—which raises questions about what Guckert was doing at the White House.

On at least fourteen occasions, Secret Service records show either the entry or exit time missing. Generally, the existing entry or exit times correlate with press conferences; on most of these days, the records show that Guckert checked in but was never processed out.

In March, 2003, Guckert left the White House twice on days he had never checked in with the Secret Service. Over the next 22 months, Guckert failed to check out with the Service on thirteen days. On several of these visits, Guckert either entered or exited by a different entry/exit point than his usual one. On one of these days, no briefing was held.

“I’d be worried if I was the White House and I knew that a reporter with a day pass never left,” one White House reporter told RAW STORY. “I’d wonder, where is he hiding? It seems like a security risk.”

Others who have covered the White House say not checking in or out with the Secret Service is unusual. The Secret Service declined to comment.
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/secret_service_gannon_424.htm

If he turns out to be a Bushie himeself, I might not be surprised.

[Catherine Vincent]

26. Well, he probably never really did any sleeping...

Snark!:P

[Buns_of_Fire]

29. boosh** White House = Latter-day "Roach Motel" (tm)

They check in... but they don't check out!

Come to think of it, comparing the boosh** WH to a Roach Motel works on several levels, doesn't it? :-)

[ima_sinnic]

12. read the beginning here . . .

Secret Service records raise new questions about discredited conservative reporter

By John Byrne| RAW STORY Editor

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In what is unlikely to stem the controversy surrounding disgraced White House correspondent James Guckert, the Secret Service has furnished logs of the writer’s access to the White House after requests by two Democratic congressmembers.

The documents, obtained by Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) and Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) through a Freedom of Information Act request, reveal Guckert had remarkable access to the White House. Though he wrote under the name Jeff Gannon, the records show that he applied with his real name.

Gannon’s ready access to President Bush and his work for a news agency that frequency plagiarized content from other reporters and tailored it to serve a conservative message may raise new questions about the White House’s attempts to seed favorable news coverage. Democrats have sought to paint Guckert in the context of other efforts by the Administration to “plant” positive spin by paying for video news releases and columnists to espouse their views.

Guckert made more than 200 appearances at the White House during his two-year tenure with the fledging conservative websites GOPUSA and Talon News, attending 155 of 196 presidential press conferences. He had little to no previous journalism experience. . . .

http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/secret_service_gannon_424.htm

[NVMojo]

17. oh, this is intriguing and disgusting at the same time!!!

I am hoping this will tie the White House to the Plame leak and bigger things than just a stain on a blue pair of slacks ...

[MADem]

19. My money is on Scott McClellan

I've said this before, I think Ari left early out of DISGUST. I think he saw what was happening and wanted to put a massive amount of daylight between himself and his so-called deputy, who had WAY more access to the chimp (having worked for him in TX) than he EVER did.

Poor Ari, bald--that's always good, but his face wasn't purty enough!

[enid602]

58. McLelland

But why would Jimmy/Jeff meet McClellan in the WH? I know McLellan's married, but why not a motel? Doesn't seem very discrete. I can see doing it in the WH once or twice as a lark, but so many times. . .

[MADem]

69. Scottie married a woman he BARELY KNEW

...just a short while ago. They had a "long distance relationship." Sorry, seems like a fluffier beard than Santa's, if you ask me!

If you work on the Hill, in the WH, at the Judiciary, at damn near ANY agency in DC, you work KILLER HOURS. Seven in the morning until ten is NOT unusual, with the real go getters coming in at six thirty and leaving at ten thirty at night. You go home to sleep, if the pull out in the office is a bit lumpy. The rest of your life is your work.

Also, in motels, you check IN. There are other guests. There are records, you could be seen, followed surreptitiously. Nothing safer than to be behind a locked door, guarded by our nation's finest law enforcement officials...unless, say, someone needs that file and has a key to your office--oh, shit!!! Whoooopsie!

[Virginian]

81. So did Bush.

He knew Laura for 3 months! That's hardly enough time to get the invitations out.

[MADem]

82. You're right!

And I don't think they used invites, I think they did it all by phone!

[understandinglife]

15. Link to LBN:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1419330


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.WE.BEGIN.............)

[H2O Man]

16. Interesting news.

Certainly worth the wait this evening. I think it shows that those on DU who said there is something else -- something significant -- involved in this story were correct.

Think of who is able to come and go without following normal procedures at the White House. A man with no documented history, beyond what he posted on the internet.

[NVMojo]

18. ...and to think of all the DUers' threads that got shelved, locked down ..

[H2O Man]

21. Damn right!

I have said from day one that we will find he is involved with the VP's private intel group. I had one of my beast fiends on DU "warn" me that I'd look like an ass when it turned out Gannon was nothing but what he was advertised as.

[merh]

49. You never know who is lurking in the shadows of the WH

and why!

:hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

23. Can you change the title of your thread?

Something that reflects the breaking news at rawstory and Gannon? Thanks.

[EFerrari]

22. And that was "documentation" without validation, of uncertain

authorship.

[fooj]

24. Wow. Big.News.For.All!!!

I thought I'd break out in hives waiting for this!!!:woohoo:

[EFerrari]

28. Me, too. And to think those idiots actually

KEPT A RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have a serious security risk on our hands.

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[fooj]

30. Guess these particular "docs" never made it to the shredder!!!

:rofl: Oops!!!

[H2O Man]

33. Fawn Hall?

Where are you now they need you?

[EFerrari]

35. Exactly. lol n/t

[fooj]

40. And all of this on "Justice Sunday"!!!

How delicious is that?:applause:

[EFerrari]

44. Oh, man.

:rofl:

[merh]

51. Oliver North was too busy on Faux t.v. to be there to teach

anyone on how and when to shread docs.

[fooj]

56. Ruh Roh!!

:rofl:

[H2O Man]

57. Ollie-type ?

May be much closer than some realize!

[merh]

59. ::cough:: :cough::

Mmmmm, you know, you could be right. :freak:

[H2O Man]

61. Legend:

"In the field of inteligence, a legend is an operational plan for a cover, or a cover itself, depending on the mission." - James Angleton, former chief of counterintelligence, CIA
-"Legend"; Edward Jay Epstein; 1978; pg ix

Ooops! I guess I posted that back on the day the Gannon business first was in the news.

[merh]

65. I thought I had read it before!

You are a wise man. :thumbsup:

[MADem]

70. I'd like to see the WH records

These are the Secret Service records, the WH records are way more detailled. The SS forwards them to the WH every two months.

[EFerrari]

20. Posted link to this thread at the previous one n/t

[MADem]

25. Photo of Lois Cassano, FWIW

From the cite upthread: Since December 2004, all but one of Gannon’s forty-eight temporary appointments were requested by Lois Cassano, a White House Press Office media assistant. One additional request was made by Peter Watkins, a press assistant who now works as deputy press secretary to First Lady Laura Bush.

[janx]

31. I have a feeling that there are some people who want to

talk to Lois.

[jimshoes]

32. You don't suppose guck

was doing pickles? Naw. My money's on scotty or kkkarl.

[TNDemo]

27. Could it possibly be Bush who he was servicing?

Yuck, yuck, yuck at the visual image. Who can grant that kind of white house access besides him? Can anyone in the cabinet give that kind of freedom to some prostitute?

[Buns_of_Fire]

36. Thanks. Now I'm going to have nightmares.

But a nice little rumble-tumble with ol' Bulldawg, getting perhaps just a little rougher than usual, would explain those rug burns on boosh's cheek when he supposedly passed out... wouldn't it? Hmmmmm...

:shaking head violently: Gawd. President Perv. Now I'm going to have to go do a brain high-colonic to get rid of these images...

But to answer your question, I think the Chief of Staff might have that authority, but I would think the SS would have kittens if it went any further than that. :shrug:

[DearAbby]

39. I just had dinner!

:puke:

[MADem]

48. Scotty, Scotty, quickly-married, late-bloomer Scotty!

Look at the dates that are up on the Raw Story website. This shit was only going on a few months, and on BASTILLE Day ARI QUIT. With almost NO NOTICE.

He either walked in on a MAN DATE, or figured out what was going on. Ari was the OUTSIDER, remember, the front man, the patsy, while Scotty, putatively number two, was the insider, the boy who worked for chimp when he was the guv of TX.

Ari ran like hell. Ari did not want to be involved. Ari sensed shit about to hit the fan. ARI KNOWS. So does that little blond gal seen handing out papers upthread.

Soul selling sucks, ya know....

[DulceDecorum]

64. Ari is NOT innocent

Perhaps he is simply not as talented a top.

[MelissaB]

34. Freepers are going crazy in their comments on RawStory.

[bigwillq]

38. OMG! Someone posted as "Bouncy Balls Dildo"

In the comment section!

[Sparkly]

42. It's quite entertaining to watch them defending Guckert.

:popcorn: They can't really, so they just do the usual "Yer stoopit" thing.

And of course, they bring up Clinton. Which is really funny, because they love to say he "got away with it scot-free" when he was impeached; so what's Chimpy doing (it's beyong even "getting away with it"), and when's his get-away-with-it impeachment?

:popcorn:

[janx]

54. Is this in the RawStory forum? I can't find any comments.

?

[bigwillq]

55. Click on the story about Gannon

Scroll down to end of story, click on Comments

[Malva Zebrina]

37. the SS must have known what was going on.

If they did not, in view of this evidence, they are incompetent.

[fooj]

41. Maybe this is why we have the evidence.

They never "disposed" of it...

[H2O Man]

45. Yep. n/t

[merbex]

43. My suggestion, if I were a reporter investigating this,would be

cross reference the dates with unexplained entry/exit with stories that the White House wanted to push

Also, who was left at the White House that Jimmy/Jeff would have a relationship with if on those days the briefings were held on Air Force One

A lot of work needs to be done;these are clues

[Sparkly]

46. Also -- should be easy to find out

exactly what the procedures and boundaries for a temporary day pass are.

And, I hope someone will see if others will release their own documents re: check-ins and check-outs for comparison (in case they try to claim "Oh yeah we're just really relaxed about this here at the White House...").

[Sparkly]

47. When did the Plame leak happen? n/t

[Sparkly]

50. Got it -- check out this timing.

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Plame_Leak_timeline
7/14 was the Novak leak; 7/15 was Gannon staying with "no exit."

[merbex]

52. Bingo!!!!

You are awesome!!

Don't you love the internet?

[merbex]

53. I think you should start a new thread with what you discovered

Great job!

[MADem]

60. 7/14 was the day ARI QUIT, too

7/14 11:33 - 1:32 (Ari's goodbye party) (12:03-12:56)
7/15 12:15 (no exit) (12:38-1:23)

[merbex]

62. No wonder Jimmy /Jeff was asked questions in the Plame

matter

Those dates are incredibly significant;and now we have a "no exit" from the White House one day after Novak story broke

Come on MSM wake up!!

[KittyWampus]

63. Good Beginning Sparkly!

[Tesla]

66. Can you see also if Chimpy was "down on the farm" or not

:kick: On the days Bulldog was havin a sleep-over.
My cash is on KKKarl.

[AuntiBush]

67. Excellent Link

Thanks, Sparkly! Passing it on and thanks Raw Story!

[merbex]

68. I just reread your link - Jimmy/Jeff also posted on freerepublic

for the 1st time on 7/15 as Jeff Gannon

Curiouser and curiouser

[Catherine Vincent]

71. Really? Do you have the link? I'd like to see it.

[merbex]

73. Check out post# 50 on this thread

here is what sparky found

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Plame_Leak_timeline

[Catherine Vincent]

76. Thanks.

It looks like his first posts were regarding Daschel. He didn't just register to be among fellow conservatives for conversation. He was showcasing his work. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose.

[DulceDecorum]

72. Tin foil question

According to lala_rawraw, Lois Cassano used to be a make-up person over at Fox before landing this gig.

Since December 2004, all but one of Gannon’s forty-eight temporary appointments were requested by Lois Cassano, a White House Press Office media assistant. One additional request was made by Peter Watkins, a press assistant who now works as deputy press secretary to First Lady Laura Bush.
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/secret_service_gannon_424.htm

So, Guckert only shows up when the make-up artist is there.
Hmmmm.
Are there TWO Guckerts?
How does he LEAVE when he never checked in?

In March, 2003, Guckert left the White House twice on days he had never checked in with the Secret Service. Over the next 22 months, Guckert failed to check out with the Service on thirteen days. On several of these visits, Guckert either entered or exited by a different entry/exit point than his usual one. On one of these days, no briefing was held.
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/secret_service_gannon_424.htm

We know that there have been serious breaches in security and intelligence during the Bush Maladministration. The FBI is currently investigating a well known lobbying committee.
We even know that there are fake Secret Servicemen who are linked to the Texas GOP effort.
And the White House.

April 24, 2005
WASHINGTON -- The US Secret Service is intensifying its investigation into whether a Republican volunteer committed the federal crime of impersonating a federal agent while forcibly removing three people from one of President Bush's public Social Security events, according to people familiar with the probe.
The Secret Service in Washington last week sent agents to Denver to probe allegations by three area Democrats that they were ousted from Bush's March 21 event. The three did not stage any protest at the rally and were later told by the Secret Service they were removed because an anti-Bush bumper sticker was displayed on their vehicle.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the man who removed them was a GOP volunteer, but he refused to divulge his name or whether he works in Colorado or Washington. ''If someone is coming to an event to disrupt it, they are going to be asked to leave," he said.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/04/24/secret_service_eyes_volunteer_who_tossed_3_from_bush_event/

So my question is,
who was Guckert impersonating or covering?
What data was entering or leaving the White House during those Guckert visits?

[seemslikeadream]

74. How does he LEAVE when he never checked in?

:shrug:

[MADem]

75. With one of Scotty's "personal badges" of course

Anyone who has ever worked for anyone with any clout has a handful of badges they keep in the office. You run down, grab your guy, cut the line, and off you go. If they go out the regular door, they have to sign out if they can't find them in the system.

[Virginian]

77. Those times when he didn't check out, could he have

joined some of the regular staff for lunch? You know, a car full of people leaving from the underground garage? Or is there a checkpoint? I know nothing about White House Security. Maybe someone who does can provide a scenario.

[MADem]

78. He easily could have gone out in a vehicle with Scotty

...and the gate figured he had already been zipped out.

[flyarm]

79. I THINK YOU ARE LOOKING THE WRONG WAY WITH SCOTTY!!

think about it who is the one person who lives in the white house and has no where else to go for their trysts..scotty and rove have many places they could go..but who doesn't??

it is not scotty..he doesn't have the power to supercede secret service!!
scotty could not by pass secret service..no way no how in the white house..period!

fly

[MADem]

80. The only one who frequented gay bars, that we know of, is Scotty

When I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, not zebras!

....Some question whether Gannon may have leveraged a personal intimate relationship with someone at the White House to gain access to President Bush. Guckert also says he was given access to an internal memorandum which named then-covert CIA operative Valerie Plame....Sources have intimated possible relationships with members of the White House staff. Guckert did not respond to requests for comment.

RAW STORY has been told that the White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan visited a gay bar in Austin, Texas, on March 19, 1995. The date was placed exactly as a local memorial service was held on the same day.

The source, who would only comment on condition of anonymity, reserved comment on whether McClellan was actually gay, but said he was frequently seen at gay clubs. Another source also confirmed this account.

“He was often seen in gay clubs in Austin, Texas and was comfortable being there,” the Texan said. “He’s been seen in places that normal people who are looking for heterosexual relationships are not seen alone.”

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=73

[flyarm]

83. rove as well!!..n/t