Can we start a bail fund? With protest arrests occurring daily

[lonestarnot]

we need to start a defense fund!

[lonestarnot]

1. kick

[lonestarnot]

2. Doesn't anyone give a fuck about arrested protesters?

[tyedyeto]

3. Yes, I do.shades of the 60's at the UC Santa Cruz.......

see this link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3550749

[lonestarnot]

5. lived those 60's...getting beat and hurled around isn't fun...but freedom

is worth it!

[tyedyeto]

6. So did I...even went to Berkeley during those times........

even tho I was still in high school. Felt strongly enough about what was happening and now even more so.

[tyedyeto]

4. Is another Kent State in the making here in this country??? n/t

[lonestarnot]

7. It could be worse... As I was driving back to work from the Social Secur.

Protest, there was a giant labor dispute taking place just down the street, on of those "Shame on so and so" drove by to quickly to see who was ripping off workers so missed the "who." People are getting fed up with slavery and carrying all the burden while the rich and corporate slobs just keep taking more and more. It is going to erupt one of these days soon. Not going to be pretty. America is not at rest. Civil unrest going to be more and more common place.

[tyedyeto]

8. I know some of those.....

"People are getting fed up with slavery and carrying all the burden" ... and they voted for * anyway. :shrug: How do you reason with them? Damn, it's like talking to a brick wall at times........

[lonestarnot]

9. Don't waste your time...just detach and move on...they are too ignorant

for man kind to waste breath or energy on...they'll get it when times get bad enough.

[tyedyeto]

10. Feeling kind of pessimistic at times and think...

'they' will never "get it".

Had several sonic booms today here in So. AZ and feel :tinfoilhat:ish . What are they testing now?

[lonestarnot]

11. probably underground nuke bunkerbusters for attacking Iran.

[tyedyeto]

12. Or just jets from Davis-Monthan?

But who the hell knows?????

[lonestarnot]

13. You did say sonic booms and immediately I thought of explosions...my

mistake. Probably just doing a sortie exercise. They have to keep practicing so they don't shut down the base you know.

[tyedyeto]

14. Oh yeah..and to keep the Air National Guard up in Tucson operational.n/t

[lonestarnot]

15. exactly n/t

[tyedyeto]

16. Even tho I'm in Blue Pima County, I live in a red area .aaargh

want to keep protests alive and kicking this to the top of the page.

But it looks like we are the only ones interested at the moment for some reason :shrug:

[lonestarnot]

17. Disgusts me! Don't know why this is...I get very vocal here regularly and

think I curse to much which offends many probably so they ignore me. LOL...sorry I drug you in... hope you don't suffer repercussions.

[tyedyeto]

18. Not a problem............

sometimes, I'm not vocal enough except on issues I feel strongly about. At this time, it's not about all the Schiavo/Christian/Catholic/2008 pres election stuff.

For the most part it's about the people of this land and the voices that most elected officials are not hearing.

[lonestarnot]

19. I really don't believe this will ever change again for the better ... our

system is really dying.. so sad. The constitution is suppose to be a living document. LOL

[tyedyeto]

20. And to think...

that most Americans have no idea what the Patriot Act has to our Constitution. So sad. :cry:

[lonestarnot]

21. How many American's do you suppose have a copy

and have actually read it ?

[tyedyeto]

23. I don't but have read enough about it...........

that I, at least, know what Constitutional rights can be taken away from us, as citizen's, in the name of 'terrorism'.

[lonestarnot]

25. copy available on line

[lonestarnot]

22. How could we start a bail defense fund? Especially if they outlaw the

filibuster...just open an account as a bail trust fund LOL... never done this kind of thing. Don't want anyone to just take advantage of anyone. PD's represent those who cannot afford an attorney as it is in the constitution, but I've seen how they work. Overburdened and mainly just plea agreements the first time they meet the defendant. We need to interest someone like a Larry Kazan or top crim person in AZ and in ea. state.

[tyedyeto]

24. I'm not sure, but maybe by..........

getting in touch with the ACLU??? They may have some ideas.

[lonestarnot]

26. You would think more people on DU would be interested... don't they

ever physically go to a protest? Yes, I've seen the pics. Then don't they know ea. and every time they go, they face arrest? It may be one of us next.

[lonestarnot]

27. Kid has orthodontist in early a.m. Gotta get up early... Very nice

talking with you. I'll watch for your posts. Don't let the sonic booms keep you up tyedyeto! Goodnight.

[tyedyeto]

29. The booms were earlier this AM.........

You have a good one. Goodnight.

[thecai]

30. I Know How Unpatriotic It Is

I've read patriot acts 1,2, and 3, (called something else), and I totally oppose them. Removing our civil liberties does not make us safer, it endangers America.
Under the (un)patriot acts and homeland (in)security, a legal defense fund may be useless.
Hitler's Enabling Act after the "mysterious" Reichstag Fire is nearly identical to Bush's Patriot Acts after 9-11.
I'm appalled this country is so oblivious...

[lala_rawraw]

28. Can we start an indie journalist fund

For those of us not selling out? ;)

[lonestarnot]

32. What is an indie journalist fund?

[thecai]

31. Kickin It!

A defense legal fund is a great idea, but with the mass corruption within our gvt., it could be a complete waste of time and money.
I know a Grandmother who paid $5,000 to bail an innocent suspect out of jail, the prosecutors signed the bond, the bailbondsman took the money, the suspect never left his cell, the prosecutors added new charges and the bail was raised to $2,000,000, cash only. The bondsman refused to refund the money, but after years of legal battles, did refund HALF of the money to the Grandmother.
The suspect never received a fair trial but rather a corrupt mockery of justice wrongful conviction, has appealed, it was denied, appealed again, and is still languishing in a filthy prison, nine years after his arrest, waiting for word on his last appeal.