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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-27-03 11:34 PM Original message |
Wasn't the Netherlands considered a paragon of tolerance? |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-27-03 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Perhaps you might try living |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-27-03 11:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The Netherlands is a VERY SMALL country. The impact |
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Dagaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-27-03 11:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Do you live in California? |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-27-03 11:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What ethnicity are you? |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. I do not count as the family were all English or few Scots. |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-27-03 11:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Muslims are just 3% of the population there |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. it's more like 50% in many big cities |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. 3% is the CIA number |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. 40 miles in some places from border to border. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. i live there, i see no stones being lobbed |
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Kamika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 08:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. i agree |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 10:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Absolutely, Kamika..... |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Read what you said |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. yes, but it's partially true |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I didn't dispute that |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. but just calling them xenophobes doesn't address their concerns |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I agree |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. The US military is one of the most successfully integrated institutions |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I think she means social integration |
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Kamika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. About affirmative action |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Those were exteremists |
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Kamika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. They arent sub societies |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Then you are just stereotyping |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I think you're wrong |
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Kamika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. i know this |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Don't you realize that you sound just like Buchanan and co.????????? |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 04:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. okay |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well... |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 12:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The Netherlands is a special case, though |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 12:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Jumper |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. It is true to an extent |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Then we should kick out all those Native Americans from the US who never |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Don't forget Hispanics and African-Americans |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. You are right. |
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QERTY (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 08:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. America Is As Racist As Any Nation |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. What is this based on? |
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Paschall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. This story is from Feb, 2002, and Fortuyn has since been killed... |
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Paschall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Did I mention that the List Pim Fortuyn |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. So what? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
10. The Netherlands has very lax business laws (most American companies |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. But AP....campaigns here are nothing like in the States.... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 10:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. I stand by my theory. |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 10:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I think that a large % of the Dutch have anti-immigrant sympathies now |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 10:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Holland wouldn't be what it is today if not for liberals helping business |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 10:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I appreciate your ideas....and they surely have some merit |
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janekat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. Whoa - that is quite surprising... It WAS one of the most liberal |
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screaming_meme (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. The Dutch shouldn't tolerate the intolerant |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Please use <sarcasism> tags unless purposesly trying to be racist |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 05:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Grain of Truth |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. What is a sarcasism tag? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Since you consider Stalin a Liberal |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Only a racist would care about that |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
23. tolerance is required in the face of lack of respect |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
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im4edwards (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. I always thought that it was tolerance of drugs and sex |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Yeah same thing here... |
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im4edwards (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. true, for their size they're very wealthy. Very. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
44. Jumper, why are you so fascinated with these superificial fault lines in.. |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You do |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I probably do... |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. That isn't me |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. What if large numbers of Southern Baptists moved to San Francisco |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-28-03 03:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. It isn't necessarily racist or anti-Muslim |
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