Novak! Stop digging!

[mandyky]

I think Jim Hightower needs to have a talk with Mr. Novak. A few weeks back Hightower was on Cspan and was talking about shrub, the war, and tax cuts and how this administration is in a hole, and gave the advice - if you find yourself stuck in a hole, you need to stop digging. Today as I read of Bob Novak's clumsy attemts to either cover his butt or his source's by claiming he really did not out a "secret" with his article about Wilson's wife, I see him continiuing to dig himself deeper in a hole.

At first I was mad at Novak, for his first article, but now I feel he's done us a favor by outting the outters. But for Novak's own good he needs to take Hightower's provincial advice.

[KC21304]

1. I agree that he is digging himself a hole, but I don't want him to stop.

I hope someone with more talent than I for this sort of thing, can put together, with his original column, everything he has said since. It would be really laughable if it weren't so serious.

And arrogant ! He knows she was just an analyst, he knew Joe Wilson was not qualified to investigate the Niger question etc.

[Skittles]

2. I WANT THAT FUCKWIT TO DIG TO CHINA

YES INDEED.

[ByeDick]

3. Not More Talented Than KerryFan, But Here's My Theory

Regarding the Wilson intelligence scandal:

We need to realize that EVERYTHING Bush, Novak, and McClellan are SAYING is absolutely true. But everything they're TELLING US is a lie. We have to remember to listen carefully to the exact words.

Novak originally said that the information about Wilson's wife came from, "two senior administration officials." THIS IS TRUE.

Novak also says that, "Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this." THIS IS ALSO TRUE.

There is ONE MAN in the world who is BOTH a senior administration official, and does not release information from the administration (from the White House).

There is ONE MAN in the world who is BOTH a senior administration official, and is not technically a member of the administration.

There is ONE MAN in the world who invested his reputation and resources to the Niger yellowcake story, more than any other.

There was ONE MAN in the world who knew of Wilson's trip to Niger as well as he knew about the identity of Wilson's wife.

THE MAN'S NAME IS **DICK CHENEY**.

The yellowcake story was Cheney's baby.

Joseph Wilson killed Dick Cheney's baby.

So, when Scott McClellan talks about how "ridiculous" it is that the leak could have come out of Karl Rove, it's because he knows this statement to be true. Rove IS NOT the one who ORIGINALLY released this information. There is no way this could have been the case because there's really no scenario that would explain how Rove could legitimately be in possession of this information. But Rove is a part of the conspiracy, all the same.

The plan was for Cheney & Novak to make the info about Wilson's wife "common knowledge around Washington." That was the first wave of the attack. The second wave was initiated when Cheney told Rove that he (Cheney or his office) had put Wilson's wife's identity in print, and that she, and her identity, were now, "FAIR GAME." The rest was left to Rove. Rove, or people working with Rove, then made the FAIR GAME phone calls to the media, knowing that Cheney & Novak had laid the groundwork to cover their asses (legally) by making the secret information, "common knowledge around Washington."

The White House is trying to convince us that the Novak disclosure and the "FAIR GAME" phone calls were taking place as one continuous event, but they were not. The Novak crimes (disclosures) were designed to set up the FAIR GAME phone calls from Rove. This was a two-point plan. Novak is working with the White House on this. He is knowingly trying to mislead any would-be investigations and may eventually go down for this obvious obstruction (at least).

Scott McClellan completed the second wave on Wednesday (10/01/03). When asked to make a distinction between disclosing the identity of a covert CIA operative and discussing it after it is published, McClellan said, "That is such a broad question, about is it OK to discuss news articles," he said. "I mean, news articles are discussed all the time."

So, is there one top-level White House official whose email, phone records, etc. ARE NOT being protected by orders of the Justice Department? Is there one top-level White House official who does not work in the White House and whose staff is not under evidence protection orders or legal scrutiny? Is Cheney watching and laughing?

Cheney is the only top level White House official who DID NOT go before cameras this week to talk about everything he doesn't know. Dick Cheney won't be seen answering questions any time soon.

When they (McClellan & co.) say, "White House," they're actually saying, "THE PLACE WHERE CHENEY IS NOT." Notice how often they use the terminology "White House." And when Novak uses the word "identity," in talking about Valerie Plame, he's not talking about her job at the CIA, he's talking about her "identity" as Wilson's wife. It's a word game. The words are true; the message is a lie.

LISTEN TO THE WORDS THEY USE.

P.S.

For the purposes of discussion, the names "Dick Cheney" and "Lewis Libby" are interchangeable.

[Hamlette]

6. "nobody ... called me"

Novak also says that, "Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this." THIS IS ALSO TRUE.

What makes this statement true is the phrase "nobody...called me." He called them. Which makes no difference. He wants us to think they didn't leak because he was the one who initiated the call.

It could still be true that it was anyone.

I think it is Scooter. What's with anyone over the age of 16 who allows people to call him 'Scooter'? Should be shot.

[ByeDick]

9. Scooting Along

I don't think Scooter can ever be looked at as anything other than an agent of Cheney.

[ignatius]

8. If you haven't seen this, it does a fantastic job on

picking Novaks performance on TRKA,Tim Russert Kiss-ass Hour,apart.


http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/dis
The article is titled, "The Bush Old Guard Shows Its True Colors"

Particularly interesting was the premise that because Novak said the outing was made as an "offhand" remark at the end of a casual conversation,then, there is no need for secrecy.

Novak either knew it was a BIG deal and leaked it or it was a casual conversation and therefore should be disclosed.

You can't have it both ways, Nofax.

[rwork]

4. C-span this morning.

I heard a Time magazine editor mention another Novak bungle. It seems as he is trying to dig him self out and make him self seem less of a fool, he printed the phone no of an Al Gore campaign contributions location.(I believe he was saying that Joe Wilson's wife had contributed to Gores election campaign) It turns out that was another CIA front that was outed. I believe this is what I heard, but have not seen it on DU this morning.

[Spazito]

5. Oh Geez!

I am beginning to think that Novak is out to totally destroy the CIA, this man, if what you say is true, is a bigger danger to the US than any "terrorist" I can think of!

[CatWoman]

12. you're right -- I saw it too

[JNelson6563]

7. Get that man a backhoe!

He's digging his own grave (professionally speaking). Always fun to watch the high and mighty fall victim to their ego.

Julie

[fla nocount]

10. The CIA doesn't change horses every four years.

Talk about tuggin on Superman's cape. Stupid and dead anyone?

[realFedUp]

11. He fortunately has a lawyer holding his spade now

Wouldn't want to be that lawyer...

[OldSoldier]

13. This morning Novak was pretty funny

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20031004.shtml

Expect Bob Novak's next column to read something like "I tried to get in my bed last night but had to move the horse's ass they'd put in it. I called the CIA and asked them whether it was supposed to be a horse's head; they said they weren't the Mafia, thank you very much, and besides someone at a fairly high level decided that the head wasn't the most appropriate part to use when sending a Republican a message."