Could this whole Iraq war be a conspiracy between Bush & Saddam?

[Rex]

I've been thinking (yeah I know) did the BFEE make a deal with Saddam just so they could steal Iraqi oil and split the profits?

Saddam makes a deal with Bush - you let me flee and get some of the profits from oil revenue and I tell you where I have a lot of WMD hidden (validating the BFEE's reason for war). That way they both get the UN off their backs (food for oil) and Saddam gets an easy out from a bad situation (or maybe the BFEE pulled a "carpet of bombs or a carpet of gold" ploy on Saddam) with his life intact and a lot more money. Everything goes as plan, up until the BFEE finds out that Saddam was lying about having any WMD. By this time, Saddam is long gone (what he really wanted all along) and the BFEE is left holding the bag in Iraq.

[arcane1]

1. well, he was "our guy" in the beginning...

just like Osama...

NEVER trust a republican to choose America's friends!!!

[charlie]

3. Like Chalabi?

Who's been given the green light to recruit former Mukharabat for security needs? Spin cycle begins anew...

[Rex]

4. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me.

Just look at our attack strategy - we bum rushed Iraq, without any supply lines. Was it over confidence or an understanding that Saddam would order his troops to surrender without a fight? Rummy fell all over himself saying that the Iraqi people would be throwing rose pedals at our feet. We faced almost no resistance from the hardcore factions of the Iraqi military. The BFEE swore to God that we would find WMD - they were so persistent that they brushed the UN aside.

[el_gato]

2. some DUer predicted that Saddam would "disappear"

way before the invasion started, probably back in march

I can't remember who here said it but the parallels to Osama
missing etc. were cited.

[Taxi Driver]

5. What is BFEE? n./t

[cmf]

7. Bush Family Evil Empire. n/t

[Rex]

8. Bush Family Evil Empire

It goes by many names (Bush Crime Family, Bush Regime etc). It is the evil Octopus (Carlyle) of the world - its goal is to dominate the energy & military markets.

[peacetalksforall]

13. "Cabal" is a more encompassing and accurate term

because it includes the banking systems, media, Federalist Society type associations and foundations, think tankers, associations such as Kissinger Associates, relationships with fundamentalist leaders, Christian-Judeo activists, and government agency and defense leaders -all who work together to control the money and the mind.

[cmf]

6. Yep, I was thinking the same thing this morning.

:tinfoilhat:

It's awfully convenient that Saddam would just disappear, and we don't seem to be looking for him that hard.

[Selwynn]

9. While possible, I personally believe...

that in the end, this kind of speculation isn't helpful. I think we should stick as close to known facts as humanly possible, and avoid getting sucked into the conspiracy theory trap...

On the public arena I mean -- here, feel free to speculate away, imo!

So my take?

I do not think Saddam and Bush are in direct cohorts. What I think is that Saddam was a tool of the US that basically went "rouge" on us. I think that the motivations for Junior Shurb going to war this time were a) part of a larger plan for control of the middle east, geo-politically, enocomically, etc. and b) seriously associated with vengence - I'm not kidding. I honestly think Bush is the kind of guy who made up his mind before even taking office to use the office to "get " the guy that cost his dad the election and tried to kill him (supposedly).

Basically I believe the doctrine of premption is part of a systematic strategy of eliminating our enemies and taking over their assets - but I don't believe Saddam was part of a conspiracy in this particular case.

[Abe Linkman]

10. Gulf Oil War 1 was a sham

Poppy goaded his pal Saddam into invading Kuwait and James "Sleazy" Baker even told the world that the Gulf Oil War was about "Jobs", "Oil".

Only naive people would assume that there isn't something simlarly sinister about this latest invasion of Iraq.

[peacetalksforall]

11. Plausible. This cabal has a long history of deals and

betrayals. Someone should write a book about the partnerships gone bad and the take-outs with the same cast of characters appearing in each event. So many are centered around those who have served Nixon, Reagan, and Bush the elder and who never go away and keep busy improving their control.

We need one book or one web-site that will provide a chronological list of betrayals.

[peacetalksforall]

12. And now they've made a deal with Turkey to 'handle?" the Kurds.

Weren't we just negotiating with the Kurds?

Is the current deal a tri-lateral one?

[Qutzupalotl]

14. Then who's shooting at our troops?

That couldn't have been part of the game plan. It's hurting Bush's ratings too much.

Sorry, this one doesn't add up for me.

[el_gato]

15. the people of iraq