Raw Story Developing... GOP HUGE CUTS

[Momof1]

Document Recommends axing National Endowment for the Arts, Humanities, Corporation for Public Broadcasting funds; Kill money for DNC, RNC conventions, End anti-drug ads, Cancel moon mission, cut AIDS aid, first responder grants... MORE... Soon...

http://www.rawstory.com/

[tk2kewl]

1. Do you think that people are going to get it yet.

Jesus Christ! Everything is a fucking opportunity to screw the poor and the middle class to these assholes!

[rkc3]

42. I shared the same thoughts with my fundie neighbor - that he and I

were going to be the ones paying for this mess. His response was to bring everyone home and shut our borders - no aid to foreigners, no troops overseas, no involvement in international dealings.

At least he was smart enough to get a vasectomy before he had a second kid.

[Jackpine Radical]

87. Festung Amerika.

[phusion]

2. End anti-drug ads and cancel moon missions

but can't we keep that other stuff? :(

[IndyOp]

13. Could we end the stupid anti-drug ads...

but keep some money available to develop sane drug education programs and laws? (I am all for legalizing pot and treating drug additions as a health crisis, rather than a law-and-order crisis).

What they need to end is the WAR on drugs; the WAR on porn; and the WAR on terrorism -- none of these are entities that can be addressed with a WAR.

[phusion]

16. Bingo!

:smoke:

[firefox]

43. Drug War ads are also bribery to the media

People forget that those billions and billions, as Carl Sagan might say, also act as a bribe to the media companies.

There are such things as parents and adults can think for themselves. We do not need the government involved in thoughtherding, especially when they use lies so everyone will believe their fantasies.

[Kolesar]

84. bribes to keep the MSM repeating RW propaganda?

[IndyOp]

86. Very good point -- so, we stop paying billions and billions,

we lay claim to our own damn airwaves and cease paying them a single solitary penny to air ads we want to have aired.

'Information' and 'thought-herding' exist on a continuum. We can provide information without telling people what to think or what to do.

I am one of those 'information is power' people...

[Angry Girl]

53. A high five on that! What about that WAR on truth also?

As long as the media are controlled by corporate interests and politicians, we have no free press.

[Vincardog]

78. Indy got it in one! WAy to go. End the WARS

[K-W]

17. I agree! EOM

[phatkatt]

81. Those are the last things they'll cut!

The anti-drug ads show they're tough on drugs to the religious right. The moon mission is white-collar welfare to Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Etc. and keep a lot of republican voters employed.

[evlbstrd]

3. Repeal the tax cuts now!

The bastards want to cut us instead.

[HereSince1628]

90. 'scuse me...they aren't polling that option.

And they won't be.

It will take WORK to get New Orleans back, so obviously we don't need workers but rather we need CONTRACTS!

People with assets (you call them rich, Bush calls them his donation base) GET contracts, and _those_ contracts represent legal promises to fix Murika. Thats good fur Murikans.

[mom cat]

92. Yes, but the poor people already know how to suffer, so they can

absorb the pain. anyhow, we don't want to bother Barbara Bush's beautiful mind with worries about having to scrimp.
:sarcasm:

[halobeam]

4. First responder grants??? What the HELL is wrong with these idiots!!!!

OMG... They really are just plain old stupid. STUPID.

[aquart]

12. The Democrats have to respond with a temporary disaster tax plan

For any income over $1 million. I prefer $700,000, but they're too gutless for that. Say, 80% after that first mil. THEN commence negotiations.

Don't even discuss the spending cuts. ONLY discuss the amount of the temporary disaster tax.

[aquart]

15. How many houses does Ken Lay have?

While many Americans now have none?

How many houses are owned by BushCo contributors? While many Americans have none?

Oh, wait. Some are about to lose their beach houses.

[MadHound]

36. Oh, let us discuss the Big Spending Cut, the one that nobody will touch

This goddamn illegal, immoral war for oil that we have in Iraq. The majority of Americans are against it now, in fact that is the first place that the majority of Americans want to cut federal spending.

So let us pack up, pull out, and spend the money that we save from that war in rebuilding the damage that Katerina did and that Rita is going to do.

Oh, and while we're at it, instead of the poor and middle class having to suffer the brunt of the economic burden, let us reinsitute the estate tax, matter of fact, let us reinstitute it at the rate that FDR ran it, 75%. After all, you can't take it with you when you die.

And some windfall profits taxation of oil companies seem to be a good idea too.

The poor and the middle class have gotten screwed all of my forty plus years, it is time for the haves and have mores to start bearing their fair share.

[TechBear_Seattle]

27. You are only NOW realizing this?

Where the bloody hell have you been these last six years?

[halobeam]

99. In and out of the hospital actually....

thanks for asking.

Have a nice day.

[GreenPartyVoter]

71. Beyond stupid.

[IndyOp]

5. Cry, The Beloved Country ---

and then GET ON THE PHONE AND TELL THESE F***ers TO STICK THEIR DOCUMENT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE!

It is really a shame that we the public won't volunteer to fast until we each starve to death so that we can send the money we would otherwise spend on food directly to the filthy rich owners of the energy and military companies.

:nuke:

[Gman]

6. The bastards are using NOLA as a neo-con test tube for their ideology

You're either with Bush and America or you're with the weather. If we don't fight the weather in NOLA and after Rita we'll be fighting the weather all over America! }(

[IndyOp]

29. Did you hear Mike Malloy talking about this last night?

Several people emailed him to say that feds had appeared at several public schools in Texas and Mississippi to remove Katrina students who had just enrolled. The teachers and students and principals were angry about this - having just worked hard to help the kids settle in.

Last night Malloy suggested that those kids had been enrolled in local Christian schools. Money, money, money, money - money! for their faith-base friends.

(And, yes, I meant to type faith-base instead of faith-based -- because I don't think these people are based in faith -- they are, instead, base as in rude and low.)

:mad:

[firefox]

51. Our lemons make *Co lemonade n/t

They are always spinning or twisting something to their advantage. Day is night. Square is round. War is peace. Disaster is (a fortunate)opportunity.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. Wait! They forgot one.

THE TAX CUTS FOR THE MEGA RICH CRONIES. I'm sure that was just an oversight. That will be announced later. :sarcasm:

[faithnotgreed]

24. i thought it was the first thing they announced

wasnt it

right

[ultraist]

8. Greedy BASTARDS!

And to add insult to injury, they plan on cutting the wealth/inheritance tax.

Rather than increasing taxes on the wealthy, they are going to slash programs that benefit all of us, the common good. Evil bastards!

[McCamy Taylor]

9. ROFLMAO. If they dont cut their pet pork, too, they'll lose House 2006.

And I'll bet that is just what they plan to do. People like Maureen Dowd and Krugman and Ivins have pen poised above paper ready to report on the Congress that is using Katrina as an excuse to shove their Far Right Wing ideology down the throats of Americans, increasing the divide between rich and poor, blah, blah, blah...

Question: Will the GOP ever get a clue?

Answer: I hope not, at least not before Fall 2006.

[IndyOp]

32. But just yesterday that nice Tom Delay announced that

the Republicans had won the war on pork -- they have pretty much cleaned up the budgets now that they have been able to prevent the irresponsible Democrats from having any influence on the budget, whatsoever.

:sarcasm:

[Ganja Ninja]

74. Yup! Said we're running at "peak efficiency".

Record deficits are "peak efficiency"?!?!?! What was it when we had a surplus?

[jim3775]

10. The Cato Institute recommended these cuts

in a new report. They want to cut NASA in half and cut the national guard.

I have no problem with them killing those rediculous anti-drug ads.

Edit: What they should do is remove 100% of the pork from the highway bill. As per Nancy Pelosi's plan.

[raccoon]

11. Reckon the Bush supporters will get it NOW?

But of course, the media hoes won't talk about it.

[DaveJ]

18. MSM doesn't talk about things until the damage is done

and by then it's too late.

[McCamy Taylor]

23. They will talk about this. Olberman and Anderson Cooper will be first.

Then the others will follow them into the water.

[slor]

14. Dear Democratic Leaders...

Now is the time to be loud and clear, screaming, REPEAL THE FUCKING TAX CUTS ANGRY MONKEYBOY! Got that?

[babsbunny]

70. We don't have real Democrats anymore!

When ever I bring up the terrible things that are being made law these days my Son says, "but the Democrats voted for it too." I have no arguement anymore! They are just Repub light.

[jasmeel]

19. Story up now

An internal Republican Study Committee document which is now available online and was simultaneously leaked to RAW STORY Thursday outlines an array of huge cuts in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, including the elimination of funding for Amtrak and the National Endowment for the Arts.

The document was first reported on by Roll Call.

RAW STORY has analyzed the pages and presented some of the more specific cuts. At this stage, these are cuts proposed by the Committee, which is composed of 86 House Republicans.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. but, but, but we won't make the rich pay their fair share

the rich hate this country, let thenm move

[Old and In the Way]

21. They just can't help themseves, can they?

Their inclination towards greed and "I've got mine, screw you" is the only operative philosophy that they respond to.

That's OK...keep exposing your real agenda 'Pubs. 'Cuz, you really can't help yourself.

[Verve]

22. Just get out of Iraq and then these idiots would have their money.

Yet, if they even try to cut these programs near an election year they will be in even more troubled waters. Bring it on!

[cynatnite]

25. Story is up:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/House_Republican_Study_Committee_document_recommends_huge_0922.html

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. Grover Norquist and his bathtub again. They're nuts.

[MADem]

68. He should fall into that bathtub, the lardassed putz nt

[Sandpiper]

28. What about our $400 billion Defense Budget?

You know, the elephant in the living room that everyone ignores.

The budget that is almost 5 times larger than that of the #2 defense spender in the world.

You could combine the budgets of everything the Neocons want to put on the chopping block, and it wouldn't even add up to one tenth of what we spend on tanks, bombs, and guns on an annual basis.

[IndyOp]

38. They are not ignoring it - they put ALL of their energy into feeding it.

That is not ignoring - though, of course, I completely get what you mean - WE are not allowed to talk about it and any politician who does so fails to win re-election (Thanks Uncle Waldon O'Dell!) or dies in a plane crash. (Yes, I know I am exaggerating about the plane crash thing - some die in car accidents!).

[Sandpiper]

41. What's even worse is

The $400 billion is just the operating budget.

If you include the costs of occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's closer to $600 billion.


But what do they want to cut?

The NEA, whose annual operating budget is $139.4 million.

[phylny]

69. When we lived in the D.C. area, I was always amazed at the number

of radio commercials for the various defense contractors.

One after the other after the other.

[DS1]

30. I can agree with eliminating money for conventions

they are bullshit.

And end anti-drug ads.

[Momof1]

31. STORY IS UP & IT'S BAD (fuel alternatives..... DONE)

It goes on & on & on

IT'S A GOP WET FU*KING DREAM

[WePurrsevere]

47. Yup, GOP Wet Dream pretty much sums it up. Zapping Fuel Alt Research NOW

has got to rank WAY up there with the STUPIDEST things the GOP CROOKS and LIARS have done. NOW is when we need to push more then ever for Alt Fuels!

More *Reverse Robin Hood* CRAP is all it is. "Touch Choices in Tough Times"... :puke: Not very "tough" for them to SCREW the middle, lower, poor, disabled and seniors AGAIN. This is bloody insane. :grr:

[Zodiak]

33. I saw these scummy Repukes on CSPAN last night

One of them was calling for the sale of 15% of all federal land to private investors to raise the money for Katrina. Not one mention of the tax cuts for the rich. I hope they friggin' choke on their goddamn tax cuts, to be honest.

[IndyOp]

39. Oh, excellent, excellent work!

Now they get to sell the federal land cheap to energy and military companies and cut down all the trees!

I was worried that they weren't going to be able to advance their end-of-times ecology policies as a result of Katrina.

:sarcasm:

[Sandpiper]

45. You forgot the Timber Companies

Who've long been coveting our national forests.

No longer will they need deceitful "healthy forests" initiatives to help rid forests of those pesky trees. Now they can just buy them outright and set up shop.

[expatriate]

93. Well hell, those damn trees cause pollution, you know.

Ronald Reagan firmly believed that. You can be sure the present crop of GOP members believes it because the Gipper did.

[jim3775]

34. Wave goodbye to federally funded arts&science, the two things they hate...

the most.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

72. No, don't wave goodby, throw it back in their face.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. If the ultra rich do not want to pay their service fees

get out of the country, please... they are destorying this country

[melody]

37. Yet more cynical extremism

I think we have to stop calling them Near-Nazis. After the genocide in Louisiana, I think they ARE Nazis.

[feminazi]

40. what do they mean by "level" funding

anyone know???

[DrDan]

44. Public Radio

Those bastards have been wanting to get that one for a long time

[catmandu57]

46. I bet the SS cola for next year is dead

I live on SSI, last year my cola amounted to 180.00, I'd gladly freeze at my current level to see the hurricane victims taken care of.
I'm willing to sacrifice and I'm betting I and everyone else living on SS and SSI will be made to sacrafice whether we want to or not so that rodney richpiggie can go on living in luxury.

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. So what is the lesson of what they are doing?

Keep yer powder dry folks... keep yer powder dry and the pantry well stocked

Sow the winds, for ye shall reap the whirlind.... and the whirlind they are sowing is revolution

[CabalPowered]

49. 5th vote and kick!

[Momof1]

54. thanks

I didn't even realize people were voting on the thread. I'm so pissed off right now.

My Mom died in 2004, my Dad sold the house for $30,000. add in his SS, and his 3 jobs. He ain't gonna qualify for anything.

For the last 5 years, my parents were putting their prescription drugs on credit cards, and Dad paid off every single credit card. He has less than 2,000 in the bank. And they are going to screw him coming and going next year!

[CabalPowered]

89. I'm so sorry to hear that..

If it's any comfort, I spoke with a Senator's aide who was familiar with the document and said that the proposals don't have much support within the party.

[vanboggie]

50. Why do I always think it can't get any worse?

It always does. Bastards - low-down, greedy horrible bastards.

[true_con]

52. When are these people going to learn

that unless we take from the rich and give to the poor, there will never be equality nor will there be peace. This is the time for everyone to give what they can to those who have nothing now and, thanks to the greedy corporations, had nothing before. It is not the time to take away from the backbone of America, which is those very people who need help! This is nothing more than there opportunity to continue to keep miorities down. Enjoy your orgy of hate, repukes! You'll get what's coming to you in the end!

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. Welcome to DU

[true_con]

64. thanks

Still slowly finding my way around here, but rapidly finding my voice!

[NancyG]

56. They should legalize pot

and tax the shit out of it. (Not the good shit, keep that in.)

[deutsey]

57. "It's probably God's will that civilization will grind to a standstill"

Frank Zappa

[SlipperySlope]

58. End funding for conventions

I agree with this one. Let the parties pay for their own damn conventions, instead of the taxpayers.

[ewagner]

59. Notice the defense and HL security cuts?

they mostly affect Military dependents...like cutting the dependents school program and adding HSA's to the Champus Program (health program.

Also shows "savings" from selling off surplus military ships...

This is the smallest category of suggested cuts/savings.

[alfredo]

60. They're fucking over our soldiers again too.

Read this editorial


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x158816

Please K&R

[mvd]

61. But I thought they were having this huge reconstruction

effort? HA HA - they have themselves in a bind now. By ruling out tax increases, Bush has essentially said that the poor and middle class will be hurt to help other poor and middle class. And the PBS thing effects everyone - that will never get through.

[AX10]

62. What else will be cut?

[katinmn]

63. looks like all the good stuff...

[demo dutch]

65. WTF happend to the roll back of tax cuts?

[FreedomAngel82]

66. Anything to keep their tax cuts eh?

I'm surprised they're cutting their own convention!

[shanti]

67. but keep the friggin tax cuts for the rich!

they have their priorities, you know! :eyes:

[Ioo]

73. BLOGGED

http://www.bushsamerica.com/index.php/2005/09/22/republicans_operation_offset

[MADem]

75. It is all, relatively speaking, nickle and dime shit they wanna cut

Here's a clue--slap some taxes on our wealthiest citizens, and let's get the fuck out of Iraq...we'll be able to dig ourselves out of this mess in no time!!!

But hey, that might interfere with the transfer of cash to the monkey's pal--the CRONY EXPRESS!!

[Sandpiper]

82. We spend more on Iraq in a month

Than we've spent on the NEA in the last 20 years.

Relatively speaking, the money the US spends on programs like the NEA is like the money you or I would spend on a pack of gum.

[progressoid]

76. That's been the plan all along. Overburnden the system and cut everything

that they don't like.

[Marleyb]

77. how about missle defense?

How many billions are wasted on missle defense and it doesn't even work??

Where's the freaking $9 billion they 'lost' in Iraq?

Where are the trillions missing from the pentagon?

How about we fire the entire governnment, that would save quite a bit of cash.

What are they even for anyhow? They aren't serving US. They are clearly serving themselves only. Take FEMA for instance, if they would have just gotten out of the way, Americans, Canadians, Germans... everyone who was willing would have been able to help and thousands of lives would have been saved. Now they just gave FEMA 60 billion more to do what? Pay the company that is hiding the bodies? I didn't use to be an anarchist but this is getting ridiculous. At this point in time we have every right to abolish this entire government and start over.

[izzybeans]

79. Well they got the convention, drugs, and moon thing right at least

:sarcasm:

[adubadee]

80. Al least they recognize the Alaska bridge

as "the bridge to nowhere"

[Ratty]

83. What ever happened to that whole "promote marriage" program

Bush proposed it during the election, I think the House passed it. Wasn't it something like 1.5 billion? Was that ever passed? I didn't see it on the list of cuts but maybe because it ultimately died.

[Ksec]

85. Naturally

You knew they wouldnt cut the rich or the corporate welfare, only common man stuff. These people are Nazis.

[Jackpine Radical]

88. Ditch the DEA, ditch the war, cut Defense by 60%.

No good reason to be spending more than the rest of the world combined on defense.

Legalize & tax pot.

Decriminalize other drugs & start closing prisons. Use treatment & alternative sentencing to cut the prison population in half. (2 million prisoners costing about 25k apiece per year behind bars)

No cuts would be necessary for social spending (health, education, social services, etc.)

[killbotfactory]

91. Gover Norquist must be shitting himself with glee

These republicans are insane.

[expatriate]

94. "Reduce Medicaid Administrative Spending"

One of the tasty little items they're pushing.

Supposedly, this will make states "more efficient" in the way they spend their Medicaid dollars.

In other words, it will become even more impossible to get Medicaid than it is now.

Even more people with no health care coverage at all.

[Donailin]

95. I like my list better:

Kill, level, cut eliminate the Department of Defense. Bring home all troops and protect our borders only. That one single item over ten years would be ten times the savings.

I can dream. . .

[applegrove]

96. RNC will have to have 8 inaugural balls instead of 15 the next time

they get the WH.

[TheModernTerrorist]

97. I can get penile implants under medicaid?????

I hope they don't eliminate that :crazy:






sidenote: who didn't see any of these cuts coming? personally, I've been pissed since before this fuck got into office, but that's my own story...

[Nothing Without Hope]

98. But they are moving heaven and earth (literally) for the ESTATE TAX CUT:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4809342
thread title: Time: GOP senators looking for a RICH KATRINA CORPSE for estate tax pitch

http://cagle.msnbc.com.nyud.net:8090/working/050920/gado.gif

[CascadeTide]

100. eliminating alternative fuel research, great move

That's a big reason we're in all this mess today.