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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:09 PM
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NRA: Sure bring your gus to work. Just leave them in the car
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=19567

Bring a gun to work?

Tallahassee, FL - Florida businesses could soon face criminal charges if they try to stop employees from bringing guns to work in their cars.

Backed by the National Rifle Association, two state lawmakers have filed bills that would allow workers to have guns at work, as long as the weapons remain locked in their vehicles.

The legislation is modeled after a similar Oklahoma law that drew national attention when a number of major companies sued to have it overturned.

Supporters say they prevent companies from forcing workers to give up their constitutional right to carry firearms. But some companies say banning guns from their property is mainly an issue of safety, not gun control or liability.

I don't know but is a car the best place to store a loaded weapon for extended periods of time? Sounds like an invitation to gun thieves to me.
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Obiepup Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:10 PM
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1. Stupid
Want to bring a gun to work?

Carry it.

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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:20 PM
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9. Some wish they could, and I
am of mixed feelings here. Any way the employer goes, they lose.

Some state treat the car as an extension of the residence. Given that it makes it hard for the employer to search or to ban handguns from the parking lot.

If the employer has a no weapons policy and there is an incident on the property where employees would have been better off if they could have armed themselves from their personal cars, its lawsuit city.

If there is an incident on company grounds and the company did not bar weapons, once again, its lawsuit city.

The only thing that is clear is that if someone wants to shoot a place up, rules and signs make no difference. That coupled with my inclination to put peoples' safety above the wishes of fictitious persons (corporations) I scarily find myself tending to favor the NRA in this one.

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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:11 PM
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2. If it is locked in the trunk of the car, what is the problem? NT
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:13 PM
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4. Because anyone can peel open a trunk with a pry bar in about 5 seconds n/t
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Obiepup Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:16 PM
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7. Cops keep machineguns in the trunk
SWAT cops have had full automatic weapons stolen out of their trunks.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:13 PM
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3. Let the employer set their own policy
I would also oppose a law that banned guns in the workplace too, but to require that guns be allowed at the workplace is just as stupid.

Let the employer make his/her company policy as they see fit.
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SerpentX Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:14 PM
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5. I walk to work
Can I carry a gun in my shoe?
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:49 PM
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11. Only if your name is Maxwell Smart
And you work for Control
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:14 PM
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6. In many states huntings seasons are only a week or two long.
Hunters have only two or three weeks out of the year to hunt, and often times will store their firearms in their vehicle as they either come to work from an early morning hunting, or leave directly from work for an afternoon of hunting. Sometimes both. Since seasons are so limited, a hunter who wants to reach their allowable quota for the specific game is in season, only hunting on the weekends does not justify the expense in equipment.

Now, if you're rich you can take off from work for two weeks and spend that time hunting. But most working people who hunt should be allowed to enjoy their activity without being forced to stay away from work.

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:18 PM
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8. If this passes, I'm only using email in Fla...
I will NOT go to the post office.

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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:22 PM
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10. Actually the USPS may be able to ignore the state law
given their Federal status
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:54 PM
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12. Um, small question...
I don't know but is a car the best place to store a loaded weapon for extended periods of time? Sounds like an invitation to gun thieves to me.

So it's now a requirement of the law to keep the weapon loaded? :P Admittedly exaggerated for dramatic effect. Most states, you need a permit to carry a loaded weapon. Some states require seperation of ammo from the guns, like guns in trunk, ammo in passenger compartment.

Cmon, take a breath. I often go to shoot clays after work. I work where guns are not allowed on the property excepting the guards, who carry .38 special S&W Stainless frame. Nice choice for an open carry handgun, not overwhelming but heavy enough to be serious, but I digress.

It's a real PITA to have to commute home and then out somewhere to a range, and sometimes means I only shoot 2 boxes (50 targets, 2 rounds which are 5 targets at each of 5 positions) instead of 4.

Come on out and shoot sometime, you just might like it.

-Hoot
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:21 AM
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13. I have shot before. I didn't like it
Wasn't my idea of fun being covered with gunpowder residue and having to use solvents and other crap to clean the damned things up afterwords.

Perhaps I misread the article but my impression was that the employees were wanting to carry weapons inside the workplace and this car business is the middle ground that the NRA is shooting for. And I don't think these fellows are all planning on bringing in skeet shooting guns either. I think we are talking about pistols here. And I don't know why anyone would want to carry around an unloaded pistol with them on the job all day? Doesn't make sense.

Don
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:31 AM
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17. They are wanting to be able to leave their guns in the car.
They want to be able to be armed driving to work, leave the gun locked in the car, and then be armed after they leave from work. A person can have many legitimate reasons for having a gun while away from work. Maybe they are female and have to commute through an area with a lot of stop lights and bad crime where carjackings have been known to occur.

Maybe they want to do something like hunt or go to a range after work and don't want to drive home and then to the indoor range.

Nobody is asking to bring the gun in to work. Although for some jobs in some places, that would not be a bad idea.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:29 AM
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14. change the title to "guns"
my neighbor is named Gus, though
how will this combine with Piglet Jeb's new law in Bushistan East? (like codeine and barbiturates, I fear)
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 03:04 AM
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15. I truly think it's time to grab our shovels, head on down to Florida,
and start digging until we are able to set the state free to float off on it's own. Of course, we'll get all the dems out before we cut that last tie. :evilgrin:

What the hell is wrong with that state? I mean, besides Jeb. Not enough oxygen or something? They are NUTS!
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Little-Jen Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 03:59 AM
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16. Is this the right-wing's answer
to "Take Your Daughter To Work Week"? :)
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