Bill Kristol: White House Indictments Coming(NewsMax)

[hang a left]

Sunday, Oct. 9, 2005 9:28 p.m. EDT
Bill Kristol: While House Indictments Coming



Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol predicted on Sunday that there will be at least one and perhaps several indictments of "senior administration officials" by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, who is investigating the outing of CIA employee Valerie Plame.

"Criminal defense lawyers I've spoken to who are friendly to the administration are very worried that there will be one or more indictments in the next three weeks of senior administration officials," the influential editor told "Fox News Sunday."

"Just looking at what Fitzgerald is doing and taking him at his word as a serious prosecutor here," Kristol said, "and I think it's going to be bad for the Bush administration."

FNS co-panelist Brit Hume noted, however, that at least some of the speculation that top Bush adviser Karl Rove may be indicted has been based on false reports in the press.

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/9/213202.shtml

[tridim]

1. "end." indeed

:) :) :)

[Mnemosyne]

2. Thank you! Any links?? n/t

[hang a left]

10. added link on edit....sorry

[Mnemosyne]

12. Thank you much! n/t

[GrantDem]

3. We can only hope

:bounce:

[janx]

4. Consider the source...

I'd like to believe it, but I'm always wary, unless Newsmax is trying to prepare the wingnuts ahead of time.

[me b zola]

11. Preparing the flock

That was my first thought. Since that thought gives me the warm fuzzies, I will go with it. :)

[AuntiBush]

59. Noticed that, too.

Good post, but wary of Newsmax.

[Why Syzygy]

5. It better be "bad". nt

[LibertyLou]

6. Hopefully there's one of them for you too you Neocon fascist

Kristol, one of the architects of PNAC and undermining American liberty at home and extending rapacious empire to all reaches of the globe...

[Cults4Bush]

25. And space and cyberspace!! Don't forget that... ever.

Nice to see someone mention his PNAC'ing ass so quickly, then again its DU we should expect no less.

So what do you think this means? I am taking this as the most ominous of boding's for the fools in the house.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. It is interesting

since he is a PNACer. :\ Wasn't he on fox too dissing Bush's choice for Miers? :shrug:

[Neil Lisst]

41. Kristol is livid about the Miers choice, but ...

FreedomAngel82, you wrote:

"It is interesting
since he is a PNACer. :\ Wasn't he on fox too dissing Bush's choice for Miers?"
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Kristol is livid about the Miers choice, but he's still rightwinger all the way. He hates the Miers choice, but he doesn't want to see Rove indicted because he knows it will seriously undermine all rightwing activities.

I firmly believe Rove is going down for this.
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[tavalon]

45. Yep

We keep track of things like that.

[DrZeeLit]

7. Oh, yeah... like Hume has any credibility.... NOT... what a schmuck.... n/

[tanyev]

8. Champagne is chilled and ready.

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Pray for indictments, and many of them.

[AX10]

17. The more the merrier!

:kick:

Bye, Bye, GOP!

[AlphaCat]

13. Somebody, PLEASE help me out with this issue!

I confess, with all the other stuff going on, I just haven't paid attention to the Plame case--and I'm not sure I understand it at ALL. I suspect I've totally missed the boat.

Can somebody put it in a nutshell for me--a very simple mutshell? So far: I understand that she worked for the CIA and somebody (presumably in the Bush admin.) leaked her name to the press. That's illegal because of national security issues? Is there anything else involved? If national security wasn't hurt (and I don't know if it was or was not, one way or the other) will the indictment be dropped? Why is the whole thing such a big deal, and how could it hurt Prez. Bush?

[hang a left]

15. It is quite involved......can't really put it a nutshell......

This article will bring you up to speed. This whole administration could be going down though, that is how serious it is.

oopsie
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7490

[AlphaCat]

19. Thanks!

[tanyev]

16. It is illegal to knowingly out an undercover agent.

If there are indictments, then the prosecutor feels he has evidence to prove that someone or several someones deliberately revealed her identity in retaliation for Joe Wilson's efforts to expose their lies justifying the Iraq war. Outing Ms. Plame not only ended her career as an undercover operative, but it revealed the front company of Brewster-Jennings and rendered all of their operatives useless for future undercover work. Not to mention any of their contacts that might have been killed as a result of this.

[AlphaCat]

21. Oh wow!

I never thought of those things....jeez, I bet there was LOTS of people involved!

With all the heads rolling over this, the White House is going to look like a bowling alley!

[deadparrot]

28. Also, Plame's husband (Joe Wilson) is/was a diplomat

and worked under Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II. He went to Niger to investigate Bush's SotU claims about Saddam purchasing yellowcake from Niger. When he found that the claims were baseless and said as much, that's when his wife was outed. He wrote a book, The Politics of Truth, which you might like to check out.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786715510/qid=1128913074/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-3050946-0203319?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[morningglory]

50. It's about lying to get us into an illegal war, then punishing the

wife of the person who revealed their lie, by a treasonous outing. This outing gets many people killed and blows the cover on a long-term CIA operation. Poppy Bush said that anyone who blows a CIA operative's cover has committed treason. We have here treason in a time of war. Punishment is usually by death. Other words: the bush administration has many traitors, traitors in a time of war.

[longship]

14. Welcome to the club, William Kristol.

Apparently you are a bit slow on the uptake. We've been talking about this for two years. Everything that has leaked out from the grand jury (through lawyers on putative defendant side) has validated much of early speculation that the West Wing is in deep trouble. So, Mr. Kristol. How long did it take you to come to your conclusion? We knew two years ago.

[Cha]

18. Ever the lying optimist..

isn't he?

"FNS co-panelist Brit Hume noted, however, that at least some of the speculation that top Bush adviser Karl Rove may be indicted has been based on false reports in the press."

[Disturbed]

23. Brit Hume is such a jerk!

"may be indicted has been based on false reports in the press."

How can they be false reports if they said "may"? He may not be, also. Hume doesn't know nor does anyone else.

[spanone]

20. Ah, the asshole Brit Hume, always making excuses for the thugs.

And what would Hume know about the press?

[lonestarnot]

22. Well come on with 'em damn it.... I'm getting tired of waiting and

watching. You know they are planning a terrorist attack the day it hits the news. Everyone take cover! Tape you windows and shit LOL OMG tape your windows....:spank: :banghead:

[jazzjunkysue]

27. Now, now, now. You want the charges to stick, right? Gotta bag all

the right rats in all the right order to unearth all the good evidence. All in good time.

I just wanna roast them all on a nice, big, hot, texas BBQ spit.

[lonestarnot]

29. No we can't roast them... they'd stink up the damn place. I say a public

jailing so we can go by everyday in the public square and throw things at them. ie rotten eggs, tomatoes, drink beer in front of them, sick dogs on them, connect them to hot boxes, just like they did those poor damn prisoners.

[Catherine Vincent]

24. NewsMax isn't credible.

Sorry.

[sabra]

26. indeed

but this was a real interview...

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. NewsMax is always being quoted by Liddy and other RW whack-jobs

So they must be a tool of the hard right.

[Quixote1818]

31. Thats why this is so believable! Newsmax is not going to go out on a limb

with the wrong outcome going against their side if they can avoid it. It looks like they have thrown in the towel and are just attempting to look credible reporting what they know is inevitable.


Also, they are just reporting what Bill Kristol has said and Kristol would not put his credibility on the line if he wasn't mostly sure.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

57. Using Kristol and the word credibility

in the same sentence is something I would never do, unless "lack of" appears as well...

Kristol and Hume, both smug arrogant smirking assholes, are downright creepy...Their condescending tones and mannerisms are typical of the way the 'let them eat cake' crowd that is running us into the ground...

Our nation has sunk to new depths when these punks get any credence whatsoever.








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[usregimechange]

32. kick

[usregimechange]

33. kick

[joanne]

34. More bad news for the Repukes

:party: :toast: :bounce: :beer:

[usregimechange]

35. kick

[FreedomAngel82]

Whoo hoo!

I hope they come this week!! I got my popcorn ready!

[barb162]

36. I wish Fitzgerald would do it tomorrow; I want some good news already

it seems like this is taking forever, doesn't it?

[rox63]

49. It won't be Tuesday

Judith Miller is going before the GJ again on Tuesday. And I believe that's also when Rove's due to appear.

[alittlelark]

38. I have 6 bags of popcorn... is it enough?

I will go out and get more if need be.:popcorn:

[RamboLiberal]

39. Kristol: “I hate the criminalization of politics.”

Bwahahhah Bill. Too F'in bad! It's the Repukes who specialize in being criminals in politics!

Kristol: “One or More Indictments in the Next Three Weeks”
Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol on Fox News Sunday:

Criminal defense lawyers I’ve spoken to who are friendly to the administration are very worried that there will be one or more indictments in the next three weeks of senior administration officials, just looking at what Fitzgerald is doing and taking him at his word, you know, being a serious prosecutor here. And I think it’s going to be bad for the Bush administration.

Someone like Bill Kristol doesn’t get information like this by accident. It’s being fed to him so, if there is an indictment, he can prepare the base. Towards the end of the segment, Kristol got started, saying, “I hate the criminalization of politics.”

The best way to stop the criminalization of politics is to get the criminals out of politics.

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/

[symbolman]

40. criminalization of politics

THERE is your Catch Phrase.. remember it.

They created catch phrases and EVERYONE runs with it, tho at this point I wonder who is manning the Rove Fax machine - oh what will the Media do without it? :)

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. I wonder if they actually teted this one though

not catching too well

[symbolman]

47. They send up hundreds of

"trial balloons" each year..

Hopefully, with the help of Fitz, this TRIAL balloon will come back and bite them in the ass :)

[Neil Lisst]

46. That must have been a different Bill Kristol

That must have been a different Bill Kristol who spent the Clinton administration trying to hang anyone who was around Clinton.


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[rucky]

53. Hypocricy Alert: Kristol is a PNAC signator. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Newsmax is RUNNING this?

My lord I can only imagine how some of the online repugs I used to ahem "debate" who always quoted News Crap feel right about now... oh never mind they lack a heart

:popcorn:

[DrDoubleplusgood]

43. Yeah, right

They've been teasing us for two years on this Plamegate thing. I think it's all just a rooze to make us think we don't live in a dictatorship-that no one is above the law, that there are still checks and balances. If nothing else, BushCo will find some smaller fish to take the fall. Maybe that Filipino guy was set up for that prupose?

[Cults4Bush]

48. Neo-Con snake talks to a Propaganda shill on the disinformation network

and the piece is picked up and placed in a Brownshirted thug "news" letter.
So many wells to poison so little time.
Jerks on top of liars.
I hope they enjoy their blood bath no one deserves it more.

[Jim__]

51. About Brit Hume's quote

Noting ominous-sounding press reports on Thursday claiming that Fitzgerald had withdrawn a previous assurances that Rove's testimony would not be used against him during an upcoming fourth grand jury appearance, Hume said: "My information is that there was never any such promise attached to his earlier testimony either."

I believe that's true; as far as it goes. However, the difference is that previously he was not given the warning that his testimony would not prevent an indictment; this time he was. In essence. Rove's status as a target has changed.

[PDittie]

52. It might not be Rove

It might be Libby and no one else.

He's the most expendable.

[Jackpine Radical]

54. Libby is only less visible, not necessarily less expendable.

He's Cheney's Andrew Card & Condi Rice rolled into one (at least Condi in her old role of Nat Sec Advisor). AND he's the major liaison between the Cheney & Bush camps. Sinche Cheney runs Bushco, Scooter is an important nexus of power all in himself.

[PDittie]

55. True

Which of the two -- if only one -- falls on his sword to save the empire?

I assert that Rove doesn't even take a bullet for W at this point. If he goes down, they all fall.

Even Cheney could wind up being frog-marched before Rove. He's too close to death to have more value than Karl.

[snippy]

56. Sounds like Kristol's sources are the lawyers for the administration

officials who are going to be indicted.

"Criminal defense lawyers I've spoken to who are friendly to the administration are very worried that there will be one or more indictments in the next three weeks of senior administration officials."

The only reason a criminal defense lawyer would be described as "friendly to the administration" and "very worried" about indictments is that the lawyer represents someone about to be indicted. Fitzgerald likely has told these lawyers that indictments of their clients may be coming.

[AuntiBush]

58. After Watching Hardball MSNBC Tonight...

I think we'll see Cheney retire to St. Mary's Island due to illness. Rove/Libby - buh-bye. And maybe it's wishful thinking, but hopefully more.

Not only can Americans handle the truth, we deserve as much.