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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 06:59 AM
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There was a chain-email comparing Dem/Rep Leadership on Hurricanes
It showed what happened after Katrina with the flooded busses.

And, it showed what happened during Rita with people leaving.

And it said "Democratic Leadership - Republican Leadership"

Has anyone got that email or image?

If so, you should ask them where Bush ranks in at.


What Bush was doing while Katrina was unleashing it's fury upon New Orleans.
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:30 AM
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1. Is this the one you're looking for ??
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:31 AM
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2. Yes
Be sure if you see this, be sure to respond with Bush's 'plan to use Music to try and stop Katrina'.
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:39 AM
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4. I got that pic from my Freeper cousin
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 07:39 AM by AussieDave
- I posted this in a thread about 10 days ago. One of the responses had another pic with a "Democratic Leadership-Republican Leadership" caption, but this time with pics of the Twin Towers intact, and then with one of the planes flying into them - in THAT order.

I sent it to my cousin - he was seriously pissed, needless to say......
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:34 AM
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3. Funny that Houston's Mayor Bill White is a Democrat, so they put Galveston
in the email.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:13 AM
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7. Lyda Ann Thomas is a "self-proclaimed Independant"
Here's the only link I could find about the political affiliations of Galveston's mayor. The main thrust of the article is Tilman Fertitta*, a big-time developer in Galveston & Houston. Her opponent in the race was on the Fertitta side:

www.houstonpress.com/issues/2004-07-15/news/news.html

Here's her biography. She is from an old, wealthy family of BOI's (Born On the Island) & has no political axe to grind.

www.cityofgalveston.org/city_council/thomas.cfm

Ms Thomas said that vivid family tales of the Great Storm of 1900 led her to have plan for storms. (The City Manager, School District & County authorities were in on the plans.)

-----------------------------------

When Enron Field needed a new name, Tilman Fertitta was in the running. Fertitta Field?


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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:58 AM
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5. Why not compare Bush to Clinton?
Clinton's FEMA response to hurricanes, then Bush's. Didn't Andrew happen on Clinton's watch?
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:04 AM
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6. I got this 2 weeks ago - my reply
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 08:06 AM by silverlib
The one I recevied was captioned "this says it all"

My reply:


This picture does not say it all. Here are two stories from news releases that tell the rest of the story – links provided. The empty school busses are really disturbing, no doubt.

Peace - E

********

Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina raged ashore, Gov. Kathleen Blanco still wants one question answered.

Where were the buses?

Hours after the hurricane hit Aug. 29, the Federal Emergency Management Agency announced a plan to send 500 commercial buses into New Orleans to rescue thousands of people left stranded on highways, overpasses and in shelters, hospitals and homes.

On the day of the storm, or perhaps the day after, FEMA turned down the state's suggestion to use school buses because they are not air conditioned, Blanco said Friday in an interview.

more....
http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/091805/new_blanco00...

By Andrew Martin and Andrew Zajac
Washington Bureau
Published September 23, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Two days after Hurricane Katrina made landfall, as images of devastation along the Gulf Coast and despair in New Orleans flickered across television screens, the head of one of the nation's largest bus associations repeatedly called federal disaster officials to offer help.

Peter Pantuso of the American Bus Association said he spent much of the day on Wednesday, Aug. 31, trying to find someone at the Federal Emergency Management Agency who could tell him how many buses were needed for an evacuation, where they should be sent and who was overseeing the effort.

"We never talked directly to FEMA or got a call back from them," Pantuso said.

Pantuso, whose members include some of the nation's largest motor coach companies, including Greyhound and Coach USA, eventually learned that the job of extracting tens of thousands of residents from flooded New Orleans wasn't being handled by FEMA at all.

Instead the agency had farmed the work out to a trucking logistics firm, Landstar Express America, which in turn hired a limousine company, which in turn engaged a travel management company.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0509230350...

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:34 AM
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8. Please reply all, also and ask for evidence that Galveston Mayor
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 08:35 AM by Mayberry Machiavelli
Lyda Ann Thomas is a Republican.

http://www.cityofgalveston.org/city_council/thomas.cfm

Funny, people assume because it's Texas, that the whole machinery is Republican. Houston Mayor Bill White is a Dem and I presume that's why the picture on the right doesn't say "Houston" LOL.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:37 AM
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9. She's an Independant.
See my post above...
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:11 AM
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10. Something else we're not hearing -- someone should do a cartoon
Before Katrina, 80% of NOLA was evacuated, and evidently the departure of that 80% proceeded in an orderly fashion out of town. I read somewhere that LA had some sort of flow system for moving traffic smoothly. How about a picture of that contrasted with Texans stranded on the interstate for days?
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:12 AM
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11. I don't recall where I got this . . .
. . . probably here, so apologies to the writer, but it's good information:


History of Recent Hurricanes Looking back a few years:
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President: Nixon Category 5 Hurricane *Camille* (August 1969) Area: About the same area as that affected by Katrina

Response: Nixon prepared the National Guard in advance, ordering rescue ships from Tampa, FL and Houston, TX to stand waiting along with over a thousand regular military, 24+ helicopters to assist the Coast Guard and National Guard about as soon as the hurricane passed.

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President: Bush (the Elder) Category 5 Hurricane *Andrew* (August 1992) Area: Florida

Response: In the middle of a re-election campaign, Bush ceased campaigning the day before the hurricane, went to Washington, and assembled one of the largest military forces ever mustered on U.S. soil. 7,000 National Guard And 22,000 regular military were sent in with the necessary equipment shortly after the hurricane passed through.

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President: Clinton Category 3 Hurricane *Floyd* (September 1999) Area: Virginia and Carolinas

Response: Meeting with China's president Jiang in New Zealand, Clinton immediately declared the hurricane-affected areas as federal disasters, allowing the military and National Guard to move in and help. Clinton flew home immediately, one day before the hurricane hit, to help coordinate the rescue.

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President: Bush (the Lesser) Category 5 Hurricane *Katrina* (August 2005) Area: Gulf Coast

Response: National Guard troops are down about 8,000 members because they are in Iraq with much of the needed rescue equipment. Bush was on vacation, riding his bike for two hours the day before the hurricane landed. On that day, Bush attended a birthday party for John McCain and played golf. The levees began to crack. While emergency 1.5-ton sandbags were ready to be placed to strengthen the levee and exclude water, there were insufficient helicopters and pilots to set them before the levees broke. New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin pleaded for federal-level assistance and got none. Bush Went to San Diego to play guitar with a country singer and end his vacation early-- but not until the next day, because he had tickets to a San Diego Padres game.

Ah, but the Gulf Coast can feel better now that the Cronies - fueled by 100$B in no-bid reconscruction contracts - have started to arrive.

The one beneficiary of all this? The State of Arizona. Every time someone calls George W Bush a conservative , AZ gets more electricity by tapping the spin in Barry Goldwater s grave.

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