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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:42 AM
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A 'Christian' Nation does not mean a Christian run government
This is what some RW'ers believe.

"We're going to restore our CHRISTIAN Heritage!"

"Our nation is going to be run by GOD!"

"It's time for you Libbies to stop persecuting Christians!"

...

No. No! NO!

Think about it for a second.

If the Church rules a nation, then is it Christians, or the Christian Leaders who will be in charge?

Note to all Christians who believe Rushdoony, D. James Kennedy, etc. They DON'T CARE about you!
They want POWER FOR THEMSELVES!

THIS is the essence of Dominionism.


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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:45 AM
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1. AMEN Brother!...say Amen..!!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:46 AM
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2. This is not a Christian nation.
Period.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:33 PM
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10. Right & early US history proves it. Ex: The Treaty Of Tripoli states...
"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

There is so much more evidence from early American history that proves we're NOT a "Christian" nation then shows that we are. If anyone's interested here's a rather brief refresher (or could use a bit of factual ammo): Little-Known U.S. Document Signed by President Adams Proclaims America's Government Is Secular as well as here a bit on American United's site: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? The following is from a Christian website. Even they know and understand that America is not a Christian nation and never has been and they also show proof (from Tripoli, Billy Graham, etc) that United States is not a Christian Nation.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:51 AM
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3. The term Christian Nation
always makes me nervous, because I don't know what it means. One obvious question is which branch of Christianity.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:55 AM
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4. They are frightened because the US is less and less Christian.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:42 AM
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8. Good. n/t
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:58 AM
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5. Christian Nation? pfffft what a fuckin joke
First off what brand of Christianity? do you include the Irish and Italian Catholics who paved pretty much every road and designed and built every building? How about them heathen Chinese who built our railroads? Oh so the Native Americans were Christian heh? How about the Mexicans who labored in the fields? The blacks you took as slaves to pick your cotton?

Their kind of Christianity was the kind practices by the Robber Barons the people who worked to DESTROY this country.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:28 AM
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6. Native Americans
were not allowed to openly practice their religion until the 1970s. Before that, there were forced conversions to Christianity, plus suppression of all forms of their culture, including language. If this is an example of the "Christian nation" these people want, I want no part of it.

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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 04:43 PM
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11. Here Here facts I was aware of
As I said the people who claim this is a "Christian Nation" are of the ilk who call themselves Christians and who most likely went from burning people alive to becoming the Robber Barons who completely spat on the people who truly built this nation and Native Americans.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:41 AM
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7. An ALLEGEDLY Christian nation.
For most Americans, for most "Christians", any connection between their belief system and what Christ actually taught before it was reinterpreted by the apostles or the church is purely coincidental.

As for this nation acting in a "Christian" way, i.e. "do unto others..", "love thy neighbor..", "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven..", "behold the lilies of the field..", etc. It's downright laughable.

BTW I'm an agnostic admirer of Christ's words.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:45 AM
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9. If they were practicing real Christianity they would understand
that trying to spread it by force is antithetical to its meaning. People were attracted to Jesus and followed him around, left their work and families for him, because there was something magnetic about his person, his message, and his way of life.

The dominionists are inherently repellent to those outside of their camp because they are just after power. It has nothing to do with true Christianity.
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