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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:32 PM
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Who would Jesus save ? the Rich or the Poor
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 06:34 PM by number6
I'm listening to AAR now, Sam Seder is talking about that one dude
who sez save the Rich people first, in a disaster ....
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:34 PM
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1. It was Neal Boortz....
Who said he would save the rich people first, because they are the ones who fuel our ecomony and create the jobs.

These neo-cons have no shame. They are showing us who they truly are, and it isn't pretty.

FYI: Here is how I am covering it on my blog: http://progressiveminds.bloghi.com/2005/10/15/boortz-save-the-rich-people-first.html
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:44 PM
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4. ah yes Neal Boortz
"These neo-cons have no shame." none at all

first saw it on

http://mediamatters.org/items/200510140006
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:40 PM
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2. Seder's right
It is a stark example of the RWs' attitude towards anyone they consider "inferior".
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:59 PM
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8. Very true...And yet....
They accuse US of playing the class warfare game.

Any time we talk about the "2 Americas," (as John Edwards did so eloquently last year) they accuse us of class warfare.

But isn't that what THEY are doing?
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:19 PM
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11. I think they will get the award for
Largest Hypocritical Entity of the Millennium
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:41 PM
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3. Save the Children.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:47 PM
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5. It's the standard now
what's the difference, the only way where it would make a difference who gets saved first, is a place where every thing is shared equally among people, than it would be save all you can. but this sounds like socialism, the side of Jesus no one talks about, a evil notion embedded in our brains. chirp, chirp, chirp. Peace
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:57 PM
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6. They did the same thing on the Titanic...
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:58 PM
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7. Jesus said the rich are not going to heaven.
But those rich fundie preachers gloss over those (very numerous) parts.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:01 PM
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9. It will be easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle
than for a rich man to go to heaven.

I believe that is the exact (or close) phrase.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:15 PM
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10. The Bushoilinis are spending BILLIONS of taxpayer money ...
... constructing HUGE needles and very, very small camels. :silly:
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:45 PM
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16. LOL
:) constructing HUGE needles and (Genetic Engineered) small camels,

ya.. they'd do that
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:20 PM
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12. What ever you do
unto the least you do unto me. You cant control the whole world, but you have a place in it, and you can make a difference. don't be overwhelmed in your seemingly small spot.
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:28 PM
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13. Another thing
that bothers me greatly is that many of the "rich" didn't do a thing to get that way except being born into a wealthy family. I know some people like that who are lazy bums who have had everything handed to them on a silver platter and don't appreciate anything.

And many rich people got there on the backs of the poor. The rich get away with so much while the poor rot in prison. I can't tell you how sick I am of these "rich" bastards. Not all of course,I know of some very wonderful people who have money.

And it's true, Jesus wouldn't have anything to do with these neocons. No way. He was the opposite of them.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:43 PM
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15. There was a prince
or one born into wealth who felt deeply about the injustice around him, he has a story, they call him the enlightened one. Peace
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:49 PM
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18. Exactly. Just look at the Chimp.
His grandfather made an "investment" in Adolf Hitler, and literally made millions off the sweat and blood of Jewish slave labor in a German steel company staffed with concentration camp labor. And since this was a steel factory, they might well have been making weapons to use against this country.

Yet despite being "busted" for trading with the enemy in 1942, Grandpa Bush walked away from the war a richer man. Then his son George Sr expanded the family fortune by exporting drug smuggling and terrorism all over the planet through the CIA. And the latest CIA front, the Carlyle Group exists to buy out other companies, including defense contractors, making Poppy the 11th largest defense contractor, a fact he celebrated on the morning of 9-11-2001 as he drank a toast with Osama Bin Laden's brother at a Carlyle Board meeting, watching the Pentagon burn from the window of their hotel.

Yeah, the rich sure contribute a lot to society, don't they :puke:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:29 PM
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14. Jesus draws to the poor and is present among them,
so says Bishop Gumbleton in his Peace Pulpit in
www.nationalcatholicreporter.org


"Jesus draws the poor and is present among them. They're the ones who really seem to understand him and follow him readily, and he reaches out to them. We have developed in our theology what we call a preferential option for the poor and that's because that was Jesus' preference ... the poor, the rejected, the marginalized, the sinner. They flocked to him."
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StopRoy Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:38 PM
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17. GOP has a "preferential option" for the poor, too.
It's called the Salvation Army.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:43 AM
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25. yes and it was immortalized in a Marlon Brandon-Jean Simmons movie a long
time ago.

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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:59 PM
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19. Didn't Jesus say it is easier for a camel to get thru to the eye of the
needle than for the rich man to enter to enter the kingdom of heaven? Than again he was also sold out for thirty pieces of silver I guess he would side with the poor folk every time.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:00 PM
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20. Boortz can't figure it out that the rich
make their dough off the sweat and blood of the poor. This guy needs to get on the first shipment to hell.
:argh:
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:27 PM
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21. Jesus was a reformer against the social injustices of his time and ours.
The RR (elite) want so badly to believe that they are saved and can enjoy both kingdoms, because they are not willing to sacrifice a anything here. They skip over the very teachings of Jesus, in favor of the Old Testament teachings because it serves their purpose.

Jesus, came for the poor, is here for the poor and will come to save the poor!
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:12 AM
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27. I agree
Jesus does not support these neocon ideas of trash the poor, who needs them anyway. The poor have developed a heart that the high and mighty do not have. The haves and have mores need a lot and it ain't money.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:48 AM
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31. So perhaps the neocon logic is
Jesus will save the poor, so us rich folk are on our own!
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:38 PM
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23. that is what I was thinking
they are rich because workers make their product, sell it, buy it. How quickly would a company that makes appliances last if there was no one to build their product, sell it or buy it. Who would mow their lawn, pick up their garbage, plow the streets. And if this is how stupid the rich are, there would be no hope for them. Just plain stupid.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:17 AM
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29. I don't know how Boortz made his money
There are some that just were born into it and have no clue how the other half lives. I'm sure there are dems. that make it rich, but hopefully keep their hearts. You can definitely see the truth in the "money is the root of all evil" saying. The greed controls there every move and consumes them. If the rich in this country would be willing to let go of a small portion of their wealth, the whole world would be a better place.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:32 PM
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22. And let's not forget
That today's Washington Post reported that the House GOP is prepared this week to cut funding for food stamps, and health care for the poor.

They are doing it in the name of finding offsets because of the funding for "hurricane relief."

So, in the name of "hurricane relief," they are going to cut programs for the very people affected by Hurricane Katrina, who may need food stamps to get back on their feet!

Here's how I covered it on my blog:

http://progressiveminds.bloghi.com/2005/10/17/the-shortest-war.html
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:02 AM
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24. We are the problem. We have been manipulated into buying stuff!
Do we need most of what we buy? No! How many sheet sets, comforters etc. do we own?

I can seriously tell you, at the height of my workaholic, need to please phase, I had seven, complete sets of sheets, shams, dust ruffle, comforter sets. Oh, and let's not forget the the accessories, window treatments, ornamental vases, etc.

Then, even if it is only a year later, the new colors come out, new window treatments, etc., our rush to the next NEW thing is completely insane.



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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:47 AM
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26. Save the Whales
If He had any sense, He'd scrap the idea of humans and start working
on the next (more?) sentient species.

Mind you, He'd also have to start walking *under* the water too ...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:17 AM
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28. He who must obviously think actors and sports players are more important
is a damn fool.
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classics Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:32 AM
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30. Jesus Christ or Supply Side Jesus?
We know which Jesus these ass clowns worship.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:39 AM
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37. Supply Side Jesus
I love that cartoon.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:55 AM
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32. Tossup:Jesus liked his expensive anointing oil but not 30 pieces of silver
So, it could go either way.

And when he was being anointed with the expensive oil, and Judas raised an objection to the cost of the stuff, Jesus said, "The poor will always be with us."

I thought that was a rat bastard comment, even for the Son of Man.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:29 AM
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33. Yep, he had several less than stellar moments in the gospels.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:05 AM
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35. So He was human enough to get pissed off with people? And?
> ... Judas raised an objection to the cost of the stuff,
> Jesus said, "The poor will always be with us."
>
> I thought that was a rat bastard comment, even for the Son of Man.

Personally, it just shows He was human after all.

There he was, about to give up his life for his fellow man and along
comes some bastard whinging about the only good thing that had happened
to him that day ... wouldn't you get fed up with it?

:-)

(Anyone who kicks out the money-lenders is OK in my book!)
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:07 PM
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34. Surely, that Boortz character would be one of those
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 01:09 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
"Billionnaires for Bush"satirists, wouldn't he?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:13 AM
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36. I think Jesus would...
Dropkick the entire GOP through the goalposts of life, from about 52 yards out, in the twinkling of an eye!
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:42 AM
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38. He'd save the ones that were trying to save the others
Rich or poor.That's just my opinion.I'm no authority on Jesus,just guessing here.From what I've read he was a pretty cool cat.:D
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