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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 09:00 PM Original message |
Venezuelan E-voting Owner Denied Entry U.S. (but still counts USvote) |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kick-n-recommended.nt |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Gracias, kster, I was thinking/hoping this one might catch some views... |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. will we have to dump sequoia voting machines now? please? eom |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. With Sugar on top of that one!! : ) n/t |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The Smartmatic machines they used in Venezuela had paper trail. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. paper trails on top of DRE touch screens are expensive band aids |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. please drop by Election Reform forum for more discussion |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Whatever you may think about Venezuela's elections, they had 10 hour lines |
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Melissa G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. K and N for Landshark! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ironic |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Part of the overall takeover via privatization |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Why do you think I am pusshing for OPEN SOURCE |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. Great stuff!!!!! A new variation in "oursourcing" elections. Recommend! |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
13. Just when you thought it couldn't get any stupider |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 01:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
51. ;) Elections in drag..something in a faux democracy Mr & Mrs. J.Q. Public |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
15. Tan muchas gracias, Landshark. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
16. Venezuela ought to go back to paper ballots also, IMO |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Venezuela wanted instant counting because they feared that |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
17. . |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. powerful stuff! |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
20. To steal an election is simplicity |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 04:09 AM Response to Original message |
21. Chavez election NOT disputed by election monitors (Jimmy Carter), |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Carter has lost a lot of credibility on ELECTRONIC elections |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Perhaps, but how much credibility do the Venezuelan corporate elites have? |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. The Evidence on electronic elections is the extensive evidence |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 04:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Then what's the basis for Carter's claim that Gore won in 2000? |
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FighttheFuture (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. That is irrelevant... Carter uses exit polling to confirm elections... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Exit polls are PROBABLY a good sign, if done right |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
23. So much has already been written about the difference in the two systems. |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The level of access the opposition had there was better than here. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Open source is surely a plus, but addresses on 20% of problems with |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Bush criminals have no room to talk on the subject of voting. (n/t) |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
24. "...as Hugo Chavez won election under disputed circumstances." NOT |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. An example of biassed MSM reporting |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Hi peace patriot, while you may have the better of the argument |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
26. why did the State Dept deny him entry? |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I was wondering the same thing. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Follow the sources for more news, he will get his visa eventually or soon |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
27. one fifth of our oil comes from venezuela |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
30. I wonder how they would explain this one? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Bush: "I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation" |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That's pretty good |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. is this called arrogance? Unbelievable...he doesn't even have the |
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AtLiberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
34. Nominated! |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
35. kick. Wish we knew more. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
36. nominated and kick |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. Land Shark's Thread Up *17* hours. Where's CM (corporate media) |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Thanks Autorank, it is a story even though after pulling strings he |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 01:03 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. This is truly a dilemma! Damned if they do; damned if they don't. |
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EnfantTerrible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. I posted a thread about it too |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Thanks for the link Enfant Terrible, we should combine our votes |
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EnfantTerrible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Can we do that? |
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