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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 04:53 PM Original message |
Is PETA guilty of extremism in going after Missouri puppy mill? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm not sure you CAN be too extreme about a puppy mill. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. agree!! go PETA get those rotten puppy mills |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. the only way to stop this horror |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. NOT GUILTY! |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. PETA is TOO EXTREME! PETA is a BUNCH of KOOKS! |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. LOL! |
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nvliberal (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Not very well, unfortunately. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
96. OK, nvliberal--You define PETA for us. |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. Do you have any idea of how long rescue |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. BUT PETA HATES ANIMALS! |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Well, what one of their board members |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. OF COURSE -- NO ONE AT PETA LIKES ANIMALS |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I think I'll see if I can find |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I'm looking good these days! |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
97. China--cat: WHO said that? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. There were a couple PETA guys caught |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
98. LINK, please. |
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Unstable Mabel (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 08:13 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Here's your link... |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:03 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Thank you for that. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. Get a clue. They support euthanasia, and not just |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
99. LINK, please. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
40. If it's not part of their mission, why did they conduct an undercover |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. This is exactly what I mean. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Nice if you had a link or two |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
100. Good for you,Karmadillo! |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
81. Lies! Lies! Lies! |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Thanks for working hard to help. |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Thank you for the first hand account and your wonderful work. n/t |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 08:00 AM Response to Reply #81 |
102. Thanks for all you did ! |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
101. Strengthening laws shut down puppy mills |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. PETA is dead right about this issue. Puppy mills are an abomination. |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. They are. No doubt about it. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. What credit? |
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nvliberal (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. So what? Any thinking human being thinks they are. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. not to me. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. Have you ever been to a puppy mill? |
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friesianrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. You're absolutely right shance... |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well,, remember what Barry Goldwater said |
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PaulaFarrell (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. yeah, what was that? |
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MadAsHellNewYorker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice |
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MadAsHellNewYorker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. What extremism? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. What I think... |
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MadAsHellNewYorker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I hope you are right |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. Here's a reason to fight the puppy mills... |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Thank you Neecy for sharing your experience and |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. it's a challenge, but well worth the effort |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:44 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Im sure it has been. Your experience and what you've posted |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. Kick and recommend for greatest. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. PETA for the most part does good work. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
27. What's a puppy mill? |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. My definition... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I think she has two breeds... |
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Craig3410 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Then, no, it's not a puppy mill. |
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friesianrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. *Usually* being "USDA certified" indicates a puppy mill... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. My sister does two different breeds... |
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friesianrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. It sounds like... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
64. You can also identify a responsible breeder |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
47. My take on breeders |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
76. Akitas are great dogs |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. Puppy mills are horrid and something has to be done to stop this |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
44. If you really want to help stop it, |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
33. No, and if you buy from a pet store, you support puppy mills. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. My sister is very anti-pet store... |
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friesianrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Your sister is pretty damn smart :) |
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nashbridges (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Go for adoption fairs |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. There is the problem. It's easier to buy that go trough all this |
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nashbridges (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:16 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It's up to the individual who is providing the cat |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yes, I was never told they are going to show up and inspect my |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
78. We do home inspections on a regular basis |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. it depends on the agency |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I don't mind the vet references but I don't want people I don't know |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. that's understandable |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. The Petsmart next to me has cats from shelters all the time. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. it's probably different in every city |
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nashbridges (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Agreed |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
60. Puppy Mills and Pet Shops are a National Disgrace |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
62. my big guy came from a puppy mill in Missouri. he has dual hip dysplasia |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
63. I'm not a big fan of PETA, |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. We got our dog from a rescue place |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Thanks so much for supporting rescue |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
65. Genuine Abuse Is Horrible. But If PETA Is Involved, It's Exaggerated... |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Safe to ignore? Exaggerated? You have a link, right? |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. No Link Needed. Peta's Reputation Preceeds Them. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I kind of figured you had nothing substantive. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I kind of figured you would not see my point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
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newfaceinhell (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 06:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
94. Puppy farms are an abomination- the blackest animal cruelty |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. Oh Brother! |
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Scout1071 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. This little guy came from one of those places in MO: |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. How can you say that? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. meet Boots Dunn "Trouble" |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. what a wonderful post |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. I've seen that picture with the tombstone before here on DU. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
80. No, in this case they are guilty of hypocrisy |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. apparently the only really PETA thing was the van the dogs' bodies |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Oh, really? |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. No, they are not guilty of hypocrisy |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. and again... |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:32 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Your argument still has nothing to do with puppy mills |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Some folks should spend some time volunteering at an open intake shelter |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 01:47 AM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Yeah, peta sux, they shouldn't try to help any animals ever! |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. "You are with us, or you are with the puppy mills!" |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 02:19 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Quoi? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
89. How often is a broken clock right? |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:12 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. FYI, other particular situations where PETA has done the right thing |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #89 |
104. What did they do? Are those puppy mills shut down now? |
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