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Cynicelle Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:31 PM
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If this administration get its comeuppance, will you be glad Kerry lost?
After having our hopes up so many other times, the Plame affair may be the one event to hold this administration accountable for its many crimes. Perhaps it will lead to more revelations, and maybe just maybe, it could lead to a Bush impeachment.

How would we feel if this were to happen? For me, it would be an incredible relief after carrying all this anger around for so long. I would do a dance, and throw a party to celebrate the end of the Bush evil empire. If I'm honest, his disgrace would probably mean more to me than a Kerry victory.

I can justify this by saying that his ouster would likely lead to a Democratic senate and Presidency, but it still reveals a dark side of myself. I hate feeling this angry toward anyone.
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:34 PM
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1. Bittersweet. . .bittersweet that it went this far.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:34 PM
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2. no way!
the humiliation of Bush had he lost to Kerry would have been far sweeter... and we wouldn't have had to pay with all this madness.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:39 PM
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12. IMO, it'd be much more likely the malignant tumor would have kept growing
if Kerry were in office.

It's now so prominent only an idiot couldn't see how septic theh Bush cabal is.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:34 PM
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3. It would have been better if Kerry won in the long run...
For starters, it would have been seen by the rest of the world as an open rebuke of Nero's decision to invade Iraq. The process of healing our relations with the rest of the world would have begun already.

They only real drawback I know of offhand is that Nero would have been dealing out pardons like a Las Vegas dealer on crack at 3 in the morning.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:34 PM
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4. Not me.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:35 PM by rosesaylavee
A lot of people would have survived this year and not died horrible unnecessary deaths if Kerry had won the election. With a Kerry win, Bush's misdeeds would have come to light with the changing of the guard.

:(
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:36 PM
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5. I wish Kerry had won. The Republicans have done so much
harm, so much wrong, since the election. The Plame facts would have come out in any event. It would be easier to prosecute if Kerry were president.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:36 PM
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6. No. 2 Supreme Court Seats would have been filled by Kerry, not to
mention all the other horrors that would have been avoided since November 2004.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:37 PM
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7. Almost 2000 Americans dead....thousands of Iraqi's
What's to celebrate?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:37 PM
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8. I will never be glad that Kerry lost, I mourn for New Orleans
Kerry would have made sure that the remaining 20 million was used
to finish the levee project in New Orleans, I do not believe that
he would have an aide that would have went out to dinner, when
he was e-mailed by a coworker that people were dying from lack of
food and water and then rehired that individual as a "consultant."
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:38 PM
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9. Yes...
I would have hated for Kerry to inherit this absolute mess, then get blamed when everything didn't turn around completely in 4 years. I'm getting a great deal of pleasure watching this administration crumble, even though the sonsequences are going to affect all of us.
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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:38 PM
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10. So the Civil War was a good thing...
because eventually the Union forces got to kick Rebel butt.

Nope, it would have been better if Bush had lost. We *still* don't know that the damage he's done can be repairable, even if his administration goes down in flames this year.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:38 PM
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11. No way. We'll have Bush's picks on the Supreme Court
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:39 PM by Eric J in MN
for decades, destroying our liberties.

The Supreme Court will rule on the Jose Padilla case within a year or two.

Bush is claiming in that case he can have any one of us imprisoned without trial by labelling us "enemy combatants."

If Bush wins that case-as he probably will with his cronies on the bench-it will give him the powers of a dictator.

http://www.speakspeak.org/speak-blog/2005/09/09/george-w-bush-can-imprison-anyone-without-trial-for-life/
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:01 PM
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24. I always think about the courts, so you nailed it. ... eom
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:42 PM
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13. Theres about two thousand Americans who would still be alive
and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

Kerry would NOT have gone to war with Iraq.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:42 PM
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14. No.
Just no. The world would have been a better place had Kerry become President. I wouldn't wish Bush on America's worst enemy.

-Laelth
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:43 PM
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15. I can't think of any reason I'd be glad Kerry lost ??? wtf
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:44 PM
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16. Never! I will never be glad Kerry lost
I'm thinking of those 2 SCOTUS seats for starters!
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Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:48 PM
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17. No, if we fail to put the counrty first we are no better than the Repugs
This is about lifting everyone up. The best thing would have been getting these idiot power-mongers out of office. We tried, but they lied harder and the undereducated electorate ate it up. Despite our shared glee at the impending justice we foresee, we need to keep in mind that the tragedy remains. The damage was done and we are a generation from cleaning it up.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:49 PM
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18. No. The damage Bush has done, and continues to do, to this country
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:50 PM by snippy
and the entire world will live on longer after Bush has left office.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:50 PM
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:52 PM
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20. Noooo..... the price is to high.
Now if everyone high level Repub does 5 to 10 in the slammer then I will have to rethink this.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:53 PM
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21. Kerry didn't lose
But assuming for the sake of argument he did :evilgrin:, no this won't make me happy he isn't President now. In fact, all of this could be happening if he were in the White House.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:54 PM
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22. never! I'll never be glad that Kerry lost
even if Bush is impeached, Cheney resigns, etc. The best of the best scenario at this point is still much worse than having a Kerry / Edwards administration trying to recover from 4 years of destruction. The destruction that this admin is doing on a continued basis ... irresponsible tax cuts for the wealthiest, destruction of the environment, bankruptcy bills, Supreme Court appointments, neglect of people in need, etc. This administration is appalling. I'm ashamed of it and i wish it was over. It is an embarrassment and the only remedy would have been a Kerry - Edwards landslide victory. The fact that he is still in office is an embarrassment to the American People. The only remedy would have been to vote him out. Now, we may see justice done, but can we really take pride in it?
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:56 PM
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23. Even Though I Wasn't Too Happy With Kerry, Either...
...I would say no. Even with his faults, I don't think Kerry would have ruined the country like Bush has. I don't think he would have destroyed our image around the world. So my answer is no.

Tammy
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:02 PM
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25. NO! But, it makes the * win easier to swallow, that's for sure.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 07:03 PM by mzmolly
Seeing this admin "fry" would restore the faith I had in this democracy at one time.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:07 PM
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26. The way I looked at the 2004 election
is that, despite the fact that the results were questionable, they might have been necessary in the higher order of things in order to bring this current overwhelmingly corrupt administration to justice. Think about it. If Kerry had been elected, he would have not only inherited the mess in Iraq, but all economic woes would have been pinned on him. And, all things * would have been safely out from under the radar.

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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:07 PM
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27. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
I can't say that I agree with you, though. A Kerry administration would have been much better for America's interests, which is my primary concern.
However, the true nature of Bushco manifesting for all to see is pure joy!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:07 PM
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kat21 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:07 PM
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29. Not at all. They still have so much more that they
can screw up between now and then. I really didn't want Kerry to inherit that mess but at least he would have kept if from getting any worse.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:13 PM
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30. No! Bushco would have been in deep crap if Kerry had been
in the WH, probably one of the reasons the election was again stolen.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:16 PM
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31. Well if this takes them down the
whole repuke agenda could be crushed for decades. Of course the dems have to play it right. On the other hand we got Roberts, maybe Miers too and they will be there for a long time. Soldiers are dying every day, families are without hope of healthcare or good jobs so that was not worth it.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:19 PM
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32. No. Kerry's loss represented the opening of the floodgates of moral decay.
It's become a gateless gate in their hands.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:38 PM
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33. Dubya has disgraced my country.
I would never forgive him that transgression.

I voted for Kerry-Edwards and would do it again, whether or not Dubya is "a treacherous little freak," in Hunter Thompson's memorable phrase.

I'd want to see our constitutional democracy go up more than see Dubya go down.

But that doesn't mean I won't continue to hammer the current administration as hard as I humanly can between now and impeachment time.

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