Stevendsmith
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:11 PM
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The Judith Miller episode should be the end for the NYT |
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I'm sorry, but the NYT's publishing of her Neocon-fed lies is unforgivable. I know the Right would love to see the Grey Lady shut down, but there must be accountability for helping lead this country into this needless and disastrous war.
Krugman, Herbert, and Dowd could find employment elsewhere.
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loveable liberal
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:13 PM
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1. Miller? I thought it was having to pay for individual articles.... |
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Who are the clowns running the NYT anyway.......
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johnfunk
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Sat Oct-22-05 02:47 PM
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14. It should be the end of Neocon apologist "Pinch" Sulzburger as boss |
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Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 02:47 PM by johnfunk
The stockholders should remove him -- along with Bill Keller -- from any active management or decision-making roles they have. "Pinch" should be banned from the premises and forbidden to talk to anyone on the editorial side, no matter how much stock he holds. Gail Collins should be made interim editor, and Miller should not only be fired but sued by the Times for her malfeasance and journalistic malpractice. Even Jayson Blair's an improvement over Miller.
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:13 PM
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2. i think shutting it down is a tad harsh, i'd like to see them |
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change, get rid of the managment and get to being a place where real reporters work.
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:16 PM
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4. " think shutting it down is a tad harsh," |
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You don't say....
There isn't a paper in the nation that devotes as much resources to delivering the news as the NYT.....
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AlCzervik
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:52 PM
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11. i was trying not to be bitchy about it you know? |
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sometimes i can be a harsh.
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The Backlash Cometh
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:16 PM
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3. I think they're having an identity crisis. |
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Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 12:17 PM by The Backlash Cometh
Sometimes Liberals can be their own worst enemies. In their effort to be tolerant, they were easy targets for infiltraitors. (Misspelling is intentional.)
So, they need to decide what kind of paper they want to be and develop some tough love tactics that will help them maintain their credibility and integrity.
On the other hand, if they're owned by a conservative mogul, there's not much they can do.
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:20 PM
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7. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why blame 'liberals' for the trash that this rag has |
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been spewing for the last five plus years. Go back before Chimpy got elected. There were people on the management staff of that newspaper who new EXACTLT what a lying bastard bush** and all the asshats he surrounded himself with are.
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The Backlash Cometh
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Sat Oct-22-05 02:08 PM
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12. Thus my disclaimer at the end of my post: |
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"On the other hand, if they're owned by a conservative mogul, there's not much they can do"
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montanacowboy
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:18 PM
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5. Maybe that is the price to be paid |
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for papers to become responsible again - The Keller mea culpa is the biggest joke yet in a string of dangerous lies and marching to an illegal war.
The NYT is finished as well it should be. Maybe something better will emerge from the ashes, but that remains to be seen. As long as corporate media whores bang the drum for a corrupt administration and lead the country on a path of disaster, they deserve nothing less than what they are getting.
And the shareholders are as responsible - sell your stock in this sinking ship - the timbers are rotten to the core - scuttle it along with all it's lying reporters and enablers.
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:20 PM
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6. I Gurantee You The NYT Is Not Going To Disappear |
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I read two papers a day.... The NYT and my home paper-The Orlando Sentinel....
It's like night and day....
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MarsThe Cat
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:23 PM
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although- it definitely should be the end of judith miller's employ- i'll bet she ends up on Faux.
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Sat Oct-22-05 12:42 PM
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9. Can we just agree that some of us don't want NYT -- or NPR -- |
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to die and would rather fight for them to be more like their former selves? There is plenty to criticize and be angry about but to suggest that they should fold while Washington Times should happily stay in business is really not particularly wise or fair.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:50 PM
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...is a propaganda arm of the elite image manipulators, as any important media outlet is. It is simply to widely read to be anything but that.
Why would anyone expect it to be anything else? The "liberal" tag is almost laughable. It speaks for power, pure and simple.
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Sat Oct-22-05 02:34 PM
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13. I'd fire Judith Miller instantly and then sack the entire |
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editorial board and put Frank Rich in charge of the newspaper.
He almost had the job instead of Keller in the first place.
Then I'd expand the film review section purely on the basis that I love films.
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