OhNoTheyDidNot
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:19 AM
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So only Libby is going down today? I am so disappointed |
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If what the MSM and the bloggers are saying only Libby will get indicted today. This is so disappointing to me. I had much greater hope ... that it would involve Rove and Cheney and deep down inside I hoped Bush and that it would expose the entire hoax they played on people that caused us to invade Iraq. Now I hear it's just 1 indictment against Libby - Big deal. I feel ripped off.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:20 AM
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1. Fitz isn't stoppping today. |
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He has just leased more office space, presumably for an expanded investigative staff. Patience, grasshopper.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:22 AM
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3. The more office space story was debunked last night n/t |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:22 AM
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4. Er... that story was retracted yesterday, BUT-- |
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The New York Times also reported (speculated) Rove will be kept under investigation by Fitzgerald.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:23 AM
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9. raw story retracted that story of leasing extra office space.and we do not |
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know yet if fitz will ask for more time or not.
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Fri Oct-28-05 12:00 PM
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38. Big deal...no one's being charged for the original crime |
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:04 PM
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45. I agree, Fitz ain't done and Congress is just getting in the act |
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Fitz has been asked by 41 members of Congress to investigate Bush, Condilesasta, Rummy and Powell about defrauding Congress and the American people. http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny22_hinchey/morenews/091505fitzgeraldletter.html
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:21 AM
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2. You should be disappointed |
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Anyone who believes what they hear without evidence one way or the other deserves to be disappointed, imo.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:22 AM
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5. Buck up, it aint over til Fitz says so |
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and his new office rental indicates he stays put
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:22 AM
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It's the beginning. Please don't believe the RW spin, because that's that they'll say - that Libby is no big deal. Lots more to come......just give it time.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:22 AM
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7. This is NOT the end, just the begining |
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Merry Fitzmas... it is the first day of fitzmas, and maybe we should do a Hannukah song here
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:56 AM
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36. Hanukkah has eight days...how many will Fitzmas have? |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 11:57 AM by Ladyhawk
Put on your yarmulke Here comes Fitzannukah...
Okay, that's lame, but hey. :shrug:
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:57 PM
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55. How about a St. Nick theme |
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How many days does St. Fitz have in it.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:37 PM
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60. Maybe the real fun will be St. Patricks Day! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:22 AM
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:24 AM
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Lots of that going on right now... ;-)
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:23 AM
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10. Turnabout is fair play. |
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Remember the Clinton/Monica stuff was released...to the press...very...very...slowly...one piece at a time...teasing...teasing... you get the picture. Can't shoot all your ammo off at once. Enjoy it.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:25 AM
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was obviously a political hack put in to bring Bill down any way possible. Fitz isn't playing political games the same way.
Rp
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:39 PM
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50. Please don't say that....... |
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this will NEVER be about 'turnabout is fair play'. Thousands died because of these SOB's, they are trying to destroy this country, the lies, half truth, distortion and distraction. The don't care about anything except money and power. What did clinton do? Get a BJ? Hardly the same thing.I want JUSTICE not revenge!"
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:24 AM
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12. Hmmm... someone I've never seen before getting all hopeless... |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:29 AM
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20. Yah, unless someone parks here and post 1000 posts per month you |
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think they are secretly a republican. You are wrong. Look at when I signed up here. Just because I don't post 100 posts per day doesn't mean I'm a freeper. I want JUSTICE and justice will be that the lies leading up to this war will be exposed.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:31 AM
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:34 AM
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24. I just made an observation. Touchy! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:40 AM
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27. Touchy because every time I post here I get the same thing ... it's |
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:25 PM
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48. Then why make it so obvious? |
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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but won't be happy until the lies of 9-11 are exposed
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Fri Oct-28-05 03:32 PM
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just post the "popcorn" smiley in every other thread and you'll be up to 1000+ in no time....it works for others.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:24 AM
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13. No such thing as instant gratification |
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An investigation & grand jury process like this takes a LONG TIME.
It's not like this will be over at 5pm today
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:25 AM
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:26 AM
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16. This is just the beginning n/t |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:27 AM
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17. Definitely not IS a big deal -- don't be so nonchalant |
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If you really feel that way, then I suspect you don't understand what the process means. This is devastating news. Too bad you don't feel that way.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:27 AM
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18. If Rove isn't indicted, it's because Rove turned on the others |
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They'll find a way to make the rest of his life uncomfortable and unrewarding.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:28 AM
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 11:28 AM by MellowOne
Whatever indictment we get will atleast open up this before the American public. People are asking questions, they will want to know the truth. Give it time, maybe we can get to the real criminal....BUSH!
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:30 AM
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I think the fun is just beginning.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:36 AM
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25. I think you're right, MsKandice, and welcome to DU! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:31 AM
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23. Libby getting indicted is a huge deal. It brings it right inside the WH. |
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A month ago we would have been thrilled with this news. And its just the beginning.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:36 AM
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26. WE DON' T KNOW ANYTHING. |
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Fitzgerald has not stated his intentions in public (he's stating them in the courtroom as we "speak") and seeing as his press conference isn't until 2PM EST, we won't know anything for sure until that point.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:45 AM
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28. It's official now. Obstruction of justice and false statements, perjury |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:49 AM
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30. Rove didn't want to go to jail... |
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Was willing to do anything to save his hide...there you have it.
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:53 AM
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32. Yes, yes it is official |
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Merry Fitzmas and welcome to DU
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:54 AM
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33. Thank you nadinbrzesinski! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:46 AM
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29. This is MUCH more painful for the dark side, believe you me. |
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Rove is getting an ulcer and Cheney will be "sequestered" in an undisclosed location. And George, I'm guessing he is making up for lost time with his old friend Jack Daniels.
Stock up on popcorn, take a little walk, this is just getting started. We may indeed have a Christmas present.
:popcorn:
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:53 AM
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31. Oh, I'm Not Disappointed |
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When I first heard that Rove wasn't going to be indicted I was let down, but he just isn't going to be indicted *today*. I think this isn't over yet. And anyway, Libby is *Cheney's* guy. I hate Cheney. Anything that makes Cheney uncomfortable is fine with me!
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:55 AM
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34. Actually there are five indictments against Libby and they are |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 11:56 AM by Bouncy Ball
very carefully crafted for a good case. If you are listening to any of the news channels they are talking about how Cheney will most likely have to take the stand and how unusual and politically damaging this is for the entire bush administration.
Does that make you feel better? :eyes:
Edited to change number of indictments from three to five, because there were two counts on one of them. There, that should make you feel EVEN better! (Yeah, right.)
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:56 AM
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35. Yes, it does make me feel better. Thanks! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 11:59 AM
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37. Also, he faces a potential sentence of 25 years |
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I feel this was done to try and pin him down and force him to begin telling the truth.
Loyalty only goes so far, at Libby's age 25 years is a very long time.
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Fri Oct-28-05 12:01 PM
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39. Yeppers, that piggie gonna SQUEEEEEAL!!! |
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go for the small fry and use them against the big fish
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:43 PM
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61. Actually up to 30 years |
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Fri Oct-28-05 12:16 PM
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42. Don't feel bad, I feel the same way too. |
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Rove weaseled out somehow which isn't really surprising since he's a disgusting slimy slug. :puke:
Oh yeah, it's a nice win for the rethugs..."just Libby", NO Rove, NO Cheney and NO Bush. Forget about the REAL CRIMINALS! Yeah, this really works for them. :grr:
And anyone who's content with "just Libby" might just be from freeperville. :puke:
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:55 PM
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53. Well, the Freepers are reporting that all of DU is disappointed.... |
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Perhaps those hypothetical Freepers are leaving "disappointed" posts?
No, that would be WRONG!
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:26 PM
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56. Are you calling me a freeper? |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 02:32 PM by TheGoldenRule
Umm...That's against DU rules.
So what are you doing hanging round freeperville? I could give a damn what they are saying over there and have no desire to go over to that hellhole and sully myself to find out, thanks anyway. :puke:
And FYI-I can feel any way I want to about this. The criminals are still in office, and will remain in office since they haven't been indicted...are you happy with that? Are you looking forward to the evil deeds they have next on the agenda? Look no further than Dead US Soldiers, Dead Iraqis, Katrina Victims...
Me-I was looking forward to seeing all of em in stripes or orange jumpsuits behind metal bars where they belong. :grr:
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:46 PM
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63. Then you were naive. Be patient - more will come... |
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Fri Oct-28-05 03:16 PM
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66. I'm not known for my patience.... |
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and yeah, maybe I'm naive and maybe I was naive to expect so much this past year-for things like the stolen election to be exposed, for the corporate media to not be so diabolically greedy and to tell the damn truth and for the Katrina victims to be saved. You know....for good to triumph over evil.
All I can say right now is that I hope and pray you are right.
I still believe in Santa Claus...er...Fitz. O8)
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Fri Oct-28-05 03:22 PM
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67. You called people freepers first |
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You started it 2 posts higher with this:
"And anyone who's content with "just Libby" might just be from freeperville."
I'm one of those people who is "content" with today's turn of events--for now. I happen to be able to see the forest as well as the trees and I know enough history to calmly assess what has happened and what has not.
By your post, however, you are calling ME and anyone else not frothing at the mouth at ONLY 5 counts a freeper. And even though I wasn't posting in this thread before now, I don't appreciate it one bit. How dare you insinuate that people are freepers just because they disagree with your narrow view of today's events?!
So you're disappointed? Fine. Be disappointed. Your disappointment doesn't change how much good happened today, and where it can lead.
Go cry in your beer if you want. I'll just keep drinking mine. :toast:
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I can't believe rove is so far sliding by...rat basturd
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Fri Oct-28-05 12:50 PM
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43. There may be some other small fish fried, but |
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the real criminals (Bush, Cheney, Rove, and others) are too well insulated to be bothered by a little heat.
That Libby was the designated scapegoat has been evident for weeks. As I posted some days ago, he will go to trial and get the proverbial slap on the wrist. All the others will skate.
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Fri Oct-28-05 12:53 PM
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44. AND, it was just announced that a NEW Grand Jury is being formed. |
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Um, that means MORE indictments, most likely.
I bet you are far from disappointed now, eh?
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:23 PM
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47. it has only just begun. listening to fitz, he is a no mess around dude |
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:41 PM
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51. To paraphrase Winston Churchill: This is not the end. |
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Nor even the beginning of the end. It isn't even the end of the beginning. It's just the beginning. :)
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:42 PM
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All this showdown talk and it fizzled out, I think he is missing in his explanation.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:57 PM
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54. This feels more real than all |
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of the silly gleeful predictions by radio personalities, etc. It is ominous in that it reminds me more of the Iran Contra investigations where plainly a bigger fish, and unwilling fall guy, Weinberger, was caught with his notes, and simply waited for his obligatory pardon.
Libby might actually be persuaded to take jail time- temporarily, IF the cover-up in which they all played the same cards, continues to shield those more responsible.
I suppose I will remain grim after so many trips to the easy victory well coming up dry. Excitement without the due consequences. Yet they nailed a dem president at will for an affair.
The system is SUPPOSED to work this way and much better, not as a miracle, especially an incomplete one. Actual consequences are still poised to slip away from this criminal administration,leaving all the excited people slowly losing steam in the background. Relentless pressure on ALL fronts must be applied or maintained. The same general miasma that kept this balloon from popping for so long can still act as a dull sealant, ugly and marred as it must be, to keep the GOP assault on America intact.
And we know, cowards though they are, they must do what that have to do to survive and thrive. Any relaxation of attack will end up making this disease worse. Where are the consequences? Is the future secure? I am not celebrating yet. This is perhaps a D-Day, not V-B Bay moment, but the beachhead is not yet secure.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:28 PM
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57. It is five PROVE ABLE Charges of conspiring to commit perjury.... |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 02:28 PM by MrsGrumpy
Look back into history and see what you find. This is a great day. One of the top six idiots had to resign in disgrace today...How far into Syria and Iran do you think the neo cons will get now?
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:30 PM
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58. If Fitz needs more time for other people/more serious charges, so be it! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:35 PM
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59. Patience Grasshopper! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:43 PM
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62. Rejoice - It's a classic "squeeze play" |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 02:45 PM by LunaC
Libby can face 30 yrs. jail time or turn State’s Evidence and tell the truth.
Tough spot, Libby. Tough spot.
Whatcha’ gonna’ do? Hmmmmmmmm?
This is just the prelude. Fitz isn't done yet.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:52 PM
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65. Just think Libby = Miller |
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I'd say he turns over in less that 85 days!
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