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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:00 PM
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Hardball: CIA Leak Special on MSNBC now...
Tune in...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:02 PM
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1. Tweety is directly involved in this case
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 09:03 PM by rocknation
if he's one of the reporters who got the Plame link. Shouldn't he have been recused from covering this story?

:shrug:
rocknation
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:05 PM
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5. A portrait of a TRAITOR ...Tweety thru and thru.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:33 PM
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37. Well, at least he's putting on a show on a Sunday night in prime time
...not that I am a fan, but I'm happy he is on tonight.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:26 PM
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27. If all the media that had some knowledge of the WH smear job on Wilson
(whether they got it directly from the Administration or via the DC insiders & insider media gossip circuit) were recused from covering the story, the DC media corps would go dark. They'd have to bring in Al Roker and Regis Philbin.

What one gets from just Wilson's book alone, for example, is that the media in general knows a hell of a lot more than they ever fess up to or report on.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:03 PM
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2. thanks for the heads up
it looks good
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:03 PM
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3. I just saw that was on....tuned in now. n/t
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:03 PM
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4. Dupe. n/t
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 09:07 PM by Scout1071
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:05 PM
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6. I love that they are nailing Cheney on his lies. And Bush on his...
"I'll take appropriate action against anyone who has leaked classified info."

We're still waiting, George.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:09 PM
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11. actually I remember what the chimp initially said.
remember this? he said "I'll take care of the leaker". I remember hearing that and just saying to myself, "oh great, the chimp's going to 'take care' of the leaker".
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:26 PM
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28. What he meant by that was...
he'll pardon the leaker.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:30 PM
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31. exactly. it was a deeply hidden psuedo-freudian slip.
or something like that.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:06 PM
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7. Look at the bias of the 'expert' panel!
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:06 PM
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8. Andrea Mitchell's tongue is in a knot trying to defend Libby and...
why he lied.
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:09 PM
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12. Kate O'Beirne is really going fishing with that theory... wow n/t
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:10 PM
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13. Tweety just dismissed her.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:07 PM
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9. panelists:
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 09:20 PM by Gabi Hayes
Kate OBeirne?????

Dana Milbank...ooops....Mike Allen; which is worse?

Mrs. Greenspan????

John Dickerson

click

not worth watching these liars

just count the lies they tell about Wilson, for starters

click
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:31 PM
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33. DING DING DING! Gabi Hayes, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 09:31 PM by rocknation
Kate OBeirne...Dana Milbank...Mike Allen...Mrs. Greenspan...John Dickerson...

click...not worth watching these liars...


THANK YOU! Dickerson's the only one who can even be remotely described as a liberal. And seeing as Tweety was one of the reporters who received the Plame outing, he shouldn't be covering it in the first place.

:headbang:
rocknation
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:07 PM
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10. They're nailing Libby. Pointing out his stupidity.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:16 PM
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14. Oh what's her name is on
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 09:17 PM by proud patriot
x( not andrea Mitchel , the other one Kate
something I believe , I do not like her at all.

O'Beirne , kate O'Beirne yucky yuck
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:17 PM
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15. Mtthews just reiterated what Russert said today:
The administration used to phone the media and complain if they had Wilson on.

God, the media has become an arm of this administration! ARe they finally starting to realize it?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:29 PM
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30. They're not stupid, they've known they are an arm of the administration
for years. It's the folks at home watching, reading, listening who need to get that message.
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:17 PM
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16. So far, Tweety is keeping the fire on the administration.
He's not letting his panelists get away with talking points which he personally knows are false.

That Kay thing tried to explain that this was so unimportant to the administration back in 2003. Tweety stopped her in her tracks saying he was in the middle of it back then and the administration was OBSESSED.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:21 PM
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19. he's pissed about the way the media was used by the WHIG/Bush White House
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:24 PM
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23. I'm so glad he's nailing the Judith Miller/wHIG tricks.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:18 PM
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17. If this thing is really "all over," as the MSM says, how come they won't
stop talking about it, doing specials, etc.?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:20 PM
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18. When was this recorded? Is it a re-run of Friday's hardball? ....n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:22 PM
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21. No, it's new, a special edition. nt
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:25 PM
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24. Thanks. n/t
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:21 PM
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20. Noe Tweety is calling out the WHIG's use of the media to take us to war.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:24 PM
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22. where was he when WE knew about it before the war?
which is worse, his smug Bushphilia, or his faux outrage after the fact, when he VERY WELL KNEW what was going on before the invasion?

he makes me so sick to my stomach
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:25 PM
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25. Same here.
Ugh.
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:26 PM
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26. He's guilty but I'd rather have him speak out on it now than never.
Many people watching this show will hear this info for the first time.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:37 PM
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40. This thread may help shed some light on Matthew's behavior
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:39 PM
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42. Yes, it now appears that * and the media have been victims all along.
:eyes:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:34 PM
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38. Watch out! Tweety's slipped his leash again! (He does from time to time.)
Probably is a bit miffed that he hasn't been able to fart without a phone call from the WH complaining.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:29 PM
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29. Shut the fuck up, Kate O'Bierne
damn I hate her.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:31 PM
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34. So why doesn't anyone ask Kate O'Brien how Wilson was lying?
Was Wilson lying? They say it but they never say how he lied. And even if he lied--which he did not--that makes it OK to out his wife?

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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:40 PM
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45. Andrea Mitchell is looking at O'Brien like what planet have you been on??
Shit how out of touch is this woman? She is a GOP ostrich--head been in the sand. She is as bad a Meiers thinking * is a "cool" guy!!
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:30 PM
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32. O'Beirne JUST LIED HER ARSE OFF! The British intel was not true.
I feel like pulling my hair out.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:32 PM
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35. Did you just hear her say that Joe Wilson lied?
She writes for right wing National Review. That figures she would throw that out there.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:38 PM
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41. this is why I/m not watching, per my post upthread
not ONE time have I seen anybody ask lying liars to SPECIFY what Wilson lied about, whether it's a newsho, or MORE importantly, a spineless "liberal" commentator/politico

nauseating
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:36 PM
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39. I loathe her smarmy attitude
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:39 PM
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44. "Friday was not a bad day"...She's insane. eom
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:44 PM
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46. Unbelievable.
I almost feel sorry for her.
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:32 PM
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36. The British intel was based on the forged Italian docs, and the 45 min
claim was a lie, incorrectly attributed to long range missles when it was meant to be in relation to artillery within Iraq.
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Laxman Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:39 PM
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43. Useless Blither
The discussion is extremely interesting as a spectator sport, however, when all is said and done it all amounts to nothing more than a load of useless drivel and spin. I would like to see Ms. O'Bierne face to face with Joe Wilson and have her call him a liar to his face. The shame of it is that as a nation we are so susceptible to manipulation by pompous official sounding accounts. Friday night I heard someone state that the CIA damage assessment found that there was "no damage" from this leak. I think it was Tony Snow. I could go down to the local barber shop and get into a discussion that is just as productive and meaningful as this crap.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:04 PM
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54. it's tea leaves, or entrails,
it allows us to get some idea how the piggy's thinking, and how they're lining up their lies....the rest of the pigmedia watch and see what's the track, or tracks, to follow in local/regional news.. then they all act as if it's god's gospel, the real reaL dope, and the watchers among the herd are 'clued' in, if they agree (if they don't, they're terrorist loving scum!)
mass media is so self obsessed that somewhere there's rock solid documentation that 90 percent of the off peak news programming (not the regular eve network newscasts) get little or no ratings, but function to guide the pigmedia when they prepare their analysis of whatever crap bushinc and the corporate yahoo is selling...it appears to be a class thing. in the future, no one in media should be allowed if they had recent ancestors who graduated from university 2 generations in a row...that's one way to end the class warrior mentality that has infected newsmedia since the jerusalem post reported the terrorist thug and rabblerouser jh christ was finally FINALLY crucified!
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:44 PM
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47. O'Beirne said Friday was a GOOD day fro the president.
The withdrawal from Miers and the fewer indictments than expected. Talk about low expectations or standards. If that is a good day, I guess people who commit misdemeanors are good people since they did not commit a felony instead. Manslaughter is ok, it's not like it's murder.

These people have a twisted sense of reality.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:45 PM
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48. Tweety's always jealous when it's not about him.
He likes to bait the repubs, but doesn't really give a damn if we're in an illegal war. He's used this white house to get himself his own show. That's all he cares about.

Lying whores.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:49 PM
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49. Let's buy kate some eye liner so she can throw out her magic marker.
I mean, really.
:crazy:
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:50 PM
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50. LMAO, Tweety just compared Scotty to a cuckoo clock. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:50 PM
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51. Who is Mike Allen from Time, and why is he
so partisan? Not very professional...
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:11 PM
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57. former WashPost lying suckass
http://mediamatters.org/items/200507280005

he's one of those who went on that Thanksgiving trip with the chimp to Baghdad, further soiling his reputation as an independent "journalist"
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:01 PM
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52. ...that was pretty lame for the most part. All pro-Bush panel. n/t
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:54 PM
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61. Quote "All pro-Bush panel" Ding, ding ding.
That's what I was talking about on this thread.

It's all smoke and mirrors. NBC Sunday morning programs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5222872
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:01 PM
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53. New developements (tomorrow) in the CIA leak investigation?
He did say that didn't he?
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:12 PM
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58. Sounds like it's just a tease. Nevertheless it is the only show covering
the leak case this much. I usually tune in to see what is new. David Schuster's reports pretty much make the show.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:04 PM
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55. REVOLTING -- They were having orgasims over Bush
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 10:05 PM by Armstead
That little jerk from Time magazine almost was creaming in his pants describing how Bush will use his formidable intellect and skills to "bounce back."

Nothing to see here. Move on.

After all that has happened, we still do not have a real fucking media. It's the same inside the Beltway trolls and whores.
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:11 PM
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56. Time reporter said Rove was off the hook....
Shit! Did anyone else hear that?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:16 PM
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59. Tweety's BP is going off the scale--but what I saw he was good.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:16 PM
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60. For some reason, I am not buying it.
I don't think he is clear. The media is being told that he is clear. But we all know Rove manages the media.
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