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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:24 PM
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Dennis Kucinich
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 08:33 PM by jiacinto
I have to say that I respect one thing about him. He fought like Hell to keep the electric company from being sold. And it saved the people there money. I do respect him for standing on the principle even though it led to the career of Senator Voinovich.
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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:33 PM
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1. I don't know anyone who doesn't respect him
well...in lefty circles that is. Kucinich is a fighter, and we need more like him. I think people are just afraid of running a candidate who won't beat Bush.

But I'll bet if it were to DU to appoint our next president, Kucinich would come out on top.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:34 PM
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2. Well
I would love to see a DK-Voinovich senate race next year.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:35 PM
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3. Yeah I think a big deal of it is in fact fear
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:37 PM
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4. are you slowly creeping left or is it about doing the right thing by
conscience?
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:44 PM
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5. I do respect him for what he did there
I really wish he would run against Voinovich so that we would have another competetive race in 2004.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:45 PM
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6. DK is a man who stood on his principles
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 08:46 PM by KG
did what he knew was best for his his city as mayor, suffered the consequences, was proven correct, won the respect of OH voters, and came roaring back politcally.

he didn't sell out for short term political gain, and it brought the respect of enough americans to launch a presidential run.

there's a big lesson the dem. party could learn from the career of DK.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:50 PM
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8. Amen KG
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 08:51 PM by Bushknew
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:46 PM
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7. so Voinovich would never have been anyone without Dennis Kucinich?
I'm sure HE would be surprised to hear that!
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 09:16 PM
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9. What did reply #7 say
I have that member on ignore.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 09:30 PM
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11. To quote him
7. so Voinovich would never have been anyone without Dennis Kucinich?


I'm sure HE would be surprised to hear that!


BTW the whole thing proves Kucinich is willing to stand up for what is right.


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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 09:30 PM
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10. DK is a man with integrity
That's what makes him so special and unique. It gives one actual hope that if he were elected president, he might actually seriously try to accomplish the things he consistently states to be his positions. He never wavers either. I like that about him.

DK has been there and back more than once. He has a better clue as to what real life is like than any of those other candidates IMO.

Needless to say, I support him until the very end which I hope will be successful. He has a lot more support than many seem to realize because the media is keeping his candidacy in the dark basically.

:dem: :kick:
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:06 PM
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12. Here's a link to a pretty evenhanded treatment of the Muny Light saga.
The entire article is worth a read if you're interested in knowing more about Kucinich.

http://www.clevelandmagazine.com/editorial/thismonth_features.asp?docid=363

<edit>

Ahh, the default. Even today it's a divisive issue. The only thing people seem to agree on is what a gift the default truly was.

"In the end, it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to Cleveland," says Richard Pogue, retired managing partner of Jones, Day, Reavis & Pogue. "It traumatized the community and brought everybody together and got people to say, 'Hey wait. We can't let the city go down the drain this way. We've got to do something.'"

James Biggar, president and CEO Glencairn Corp., agrees. "If you look back in history," he says, "we probably ought to give Dennis Kucinich the MVP award for Cleveland's comeback."

But what people are in complete disagreement over is what role Kucinich played in Cleveland's default. While some say he is totally to blame, others - including members of a 1979 congressional staff who conducted a study of the default - suggest the bankruptcy was politically motivated. In short, some say Kucinich's attempts to save Muny Light put his foot in the grave, while his confrontational style with the business community caused them to push him in.

Throughout his political career, Kucinich's battle cry had been to save Muny Light. The brainchild and dream of Kucinich hero and populist Cleveland Mayor Tom L. Johnson, Muny Light was born in 1914, and from its inception, fought off CEI's efforts to put it out of business.

more...
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:25 PM
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13. By the way
when did the Cuyauga river catch on fire in Clevleand?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:33 PM
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14. 1969 and, as it turns out, 1952. Link to story and pics.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:38 PM
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15. ok
thanks.
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