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Fri Jul-18-03 05:03 AM
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does anyone personally know any ex-gays? |
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how does knowing Jesus make a person straight?
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Fri Jul-18-03 05:24 AM
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I know some ex-straights though. :silly:
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Fri Jul-18-03 06:35 AM
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but I know a "straight" guy who finally realized he was gay.
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Fri Jul-18-03 06:36 AM
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Fri Jul-18-03 06:37 AM
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But I don't really know that many people.
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Fri Jul-18-03 06:44 AM
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Two of my very best friends are as gay, no, better make that queer as 3-dollar bills and they will tell you as much themselves. For them it is not a lifestyle choice it is a genetic profile and not subject to the 'kinds' of change you allude to here.
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Fri Jul-18-03 07:09 AM
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Fri Jul-18-03 07:26 AM
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7. I know more ex-Straights Than ex-Gays... |
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Edited on Fri Jul-18-03 07:27 AM by BiggJawn
Never met an "ex-Gay", but I've known many formerly straight people who hit their 40's and "got honest" ( I was married to one)
Wonder why the inverse is never true?
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Fri Jul-18-03 07:57 AM
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11. Straight people are not socially conditioned to expect |
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to be gay. Would be my guess.
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Fri Jul-18-03 07:40 AM
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It's sad when we devolve from linear thinking into binary thinking. Who's to say sexuality isn't even more than shades of grey? I've known straight (to some unkown degree) guys who "swore off" blondes. Does that make them "semi-straight"? If a (nominally) "bi" person chooses to be selectively restrictive in acting upon his/her sexuality, does that make them 'straight' or (conversely) 'gay'? Why are we so obsessed with such nomenclature? Are we incapable of eschewing such pigeon-holing? Are we incapable of recognizing the uniqueness of each human being? Why can't we merely celebrate humanity's (diminishing?) ability to love one another? With so much hatred in this world, I cannot respect the wasted obsession towards those who're motivated out of love. Surely we have many far greater concerns in this world?
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Fri Jul-18-03 07:52 AM
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9. I had a very good friend...... |
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the sweetest person in the world, who tried to become an ex-gay, and wound up committing suicide. I will grieve for him my entire life...he was such a wonderful person.
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Fri Jul-18-03 07:55 AM
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a more common outcome. In fact the founder of one of the religious homosexual conversion groups put his own son through the program. He saddly committed suicide soon after. And yet they continue to mentally torture these poor people. Caught between their identity and their beliefs. I side with their identity.
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Fri Jul-18-03 08:04 AM
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13. do you mean exodus international |
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Fri Jul-18-03 08:03 AM
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But he/she still dates women, so make of that what you will.
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Fri Jul-18-03 08:07 AM
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14. how does knowing Jesus make a person straight? |
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It doesn't.
I don't know what makes a person gay, wether it be genetics or something else, but I do know it isn't a personal choice. At least not for those that I have met. Being that it is not a choice in the first place one can not change their mind and decide to be straight.
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Fri Jul-18-03 08:09 AM
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15. Yes I do. An ex-gay male. |
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Edited on Fri Jul-18-03 08:10 AM by XNASA
He had a gay partner when I met him, but now he's married, with a couple of kids. His wife knew him when he was gay. As far as I know, he's not a Christian.
But I know at least a handful of ex-straight married men, who are now gay. Some with children.
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Fri Jul-18-03 09:20 AM
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16. I know people who identified as gay who are now married |
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to opposite-sex partners. One was a woman who identified as a lesbian in college, but senior year, fell in love with a man. She doesn't consider herself ex-gay -- she considers herself bisexual.
Another couple I know is a gay man and a lesbian who are married for insurance and other financial purposes, but it's an open marriage. And the fundies think allowing same-sex marriage would undermine its sanctity? (Not that I'm criticizing their arrangement -- they found a way around a discriminatory system, and it works for them. But no one can look me in they eye and tell me their marriage is a sacrament.)
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Fri Jul-18-03 09:29 AM
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17. I know a whole lot of folks... |
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Edited on Fri Jul-18-03 09:31 AM by sirshack
I know an ex-lesbian (had a fling with a guy and decided she liked guys more)
I know an ex-straight girl who became lesbian
I know a straight girl who went bi (literally 50/50)
I know a bi girl who is now straight (decided she liked guys better)
I know a guy who is pretty much 100% gay, but admits to being attracted to girls here and there (to the point of physical intimacy...even had a girlfriend at one point).
The closest I can get to an ex-gay guy is a guy my mom actually used to work with. He still was very active in the gay lifestyle, but eventually decided that he liked girls. He did have a hard time dating though, because he was very much out among his friends. I haven't kept up to date with him because my parents moved.
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Fri Jul-18-03 09:35 AM
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18. Yes, my sister is (supposedly) an ex-gay |
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She's a born again messianic jew (formerly Catholic, then went to born-again when becoming ex-gay, but that wasn't strict enuff I guess so she went jews-for-jesus.
Do I think she's really an ex-gay? Well...here's the kicker. She doesn't date women, but she also doesn't date men! When I ask her why not, she says she's 'married to Jesus.' I read that as a cop out.
She still has very close relationships with women that seem to be intimate in every way except I guess she really isn't romantically involved, er, physically involved.
She even managed to break up a woman's marriage in her ex-gay status. That woman has since remarried, but gave my sister her car and lets her live in her townhouse for substantially reduced rent (she subsidizes my sister).
Damn! I'm gay (used to double date with sis when we were young lesbos) and have NEVER gotten such good treatment from my exes.
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