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Fri Jul-25-03 11:54 AM
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if many blacks are god fearing |
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why don't they vote for 'pro-family' repubs?
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Fri Jul-25-03 11:56 AM
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1. cause they fear racist whiteys more? |
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This is a batch of sort of silly questions.
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Fri Jul-25-03 11:56 AM
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2. Because Black People Can Tell Racist Hypocrites |
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hiding behind God from a million miles away.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:28 PM
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Fri Jul-25-03 11:58 AM
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3. Some of them do, but a bigger issue is Hispanics voting Repub |
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About 90% of Hispanics are Roman Catholic, and a large chunk of them actively practice their religion. I personally know families of Mexican descent who often choose candidates based on their views on abortion, marriage, etc.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:28 PM
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14. As a "Hispanic" myself I can't understand this. |
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But I believe Democratic candidates need to get ads on Spanish language radio and TV to counter their misunderstandings of the progressive candidate's platform. In our zeal to be politically correct, we forget to appeal to them with the fact that we are family friendly, because we believe in health care for all, free education and Social Security funding for the "abuelitos" or grandparents.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:46 PM
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20. well, most hispanics are catholic......so anti-abortion plays big |
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Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 12:47 PM by DagmarK
to get them to vote repuke (when they do)
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:53 PM
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21. That's why we need ads. |
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The repukes always trot out the abortion issue. Even on DU, whenever there is an election there are two to three abortion threads going to stir up the pot. Have you noticed there are none now? We have to refute it by changing the subject to something they are interested in, family. Since I live in California we have a lot of Spanish media here, yet in the last election the Republicans were airing Spanish speaking ads far more than the Democrats.
Remember half of the Hispanics are women and many have had abortions in lieu of one more kid they don't want to raise. Back in the rusty wire coat hanger days, California women went to Mexico to get an abortion. I don't think this is as big an issue as getting our message out.
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Fri Jul-25-03 05:32 PM
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38. A lot of anglo women went to Mexico in the bad old days |
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California women who could afford it went to an underground practitioner in the US. Those who could not went to Tijuana.
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Fri Jul-25-03 11:59 AM
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4. God fearing does not equal religious right |
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Some very religious individuals are very aware of the dangers of mixing religion and politics. Its not just us atheists up there defending the wall of seperation.
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Fri Jul-25-03 11:59 AM
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Fri Jul-25-03 11:59 AM
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6. The same reason "god Fearing" "whites" |
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:01 PM
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Many African-Americans are both evangelical Christians and committed progressives. There are also a few white evengelical Christians who are progressives. They are in the real Evangelical tradition -- in an earlier epoch evangelicals were among the leaders in the anti-slavery cause and in other social causes, often supporting Christian Socialism. It is important both to expose the fraud that Christian faith demands "conservatism" and to avoid demeaning the faith of some of the best friends, and best people, the progressive movement has.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:02 PM
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8. if whites are so god fearing |
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why do they worship money ala capitalism?
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:21 PM
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Ever heard of Hip hop? Its basically the lust of money and women.
DISCLAIMER: I did not mean to imply that all blacks follow this culture of listening to Hip hop, but it is more likely in the black community then any other. Just as all whites dont listen to "Rock" music, myself included.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:25 PM
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12. I was being sarcastic |
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because I perceive the question as racist. And I'm white.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:04 PM
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9. the late father of JC Watts once said that |
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"A black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders".
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:23 PM
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11. Since when is pro-family "god fearing"? |
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What the hell kind of stupid loaded question is this?
If the GOP are pro-family, I'm the Queen of Sheba.
Eric
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:28 PM
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13. Black Christians believe in a liberal Jesus... |
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while the Southern Baptist types believe in a jealous and vengeful God. The southern Baptist types who claim to believe in Jesus, prefer to gloss over the new testament teachings of Jesus the liberal, in favor of the old testament vengeful God.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:30 PM
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17. Yep, fundies worship Paul |
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Real Christians follow Christ!!
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:30 PM
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16. As a black God-fearing woman, |
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I can tell you that I see straight through the Pharisee party. I am an Independent, but I have never voted for a Republican.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:36 PM
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18. because reality outweighs the "guy in the sky" routine |
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or like someone said about the last Republican convention, "the last time there were that many black people on the stage with repukes in the audience, they were for sale."
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:43 PM
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19. The pairing of religion and the right is a recent change |
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The repuke party was traditionally the economic heartless party. It was the rise of the religious right and their combining together with the economic right that resusitated the repukes.
By no means has all religion been blinded to the greed of the right. It is the fanatical religious right and their desire to undo any semblence of a pluralistic society that drove these two creations together.
Our society is changing. For the better. Change is difficult for some to cope with even if it is for the best. It is these changes to society that drive the religious right. As we become more and more aware of the evils we have visited on people in the past because of ignorance and prejudice we seek to right these errors. But many have beliefs which are tied to the past and change does not come easy to belief systems.
The black community though deeply religious (though not unanimously) is aware of the harm caused in the past having experienced it first hand. Thus they recognise the old demons and side with the left to keep them from ever obtaining such control again.
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:36 PM
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31. When did Gore say that? |
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When did Gore say that strict constructionists -- i.e. those who oppos common sense in government -- believe that blacks are only 3/5th of a human (something the constitution does not say)?
And do you have some Democratic quote regarding Goldwater and racism?
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:57 PM
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22. Because every black person I ever knew and know can see |
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through bullshit quicker than anyone.
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Fri Jul-25-03 12:58 PM
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is a left wing Jesus who wants to help the poor.
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:00 PM
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24. What does God Fearing have to do with political parties? |
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The conservative Right Wing is full of greed and refuses to help the needy. Two things that Jesus specifically warned against.
The Democrats have yet to shake the notion that they are immoral (Clinton) and stand stongly pro-choice. Two things that religious persons often time disagree with.
It's up to the person to decide which more closely reflects their goals.
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:13 PM
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27. A Christian Can Forgive Clinton |
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When Christ saw that a woman was being stoned for committing adultery he stopped the stoning and asked "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." They all split. Then Christ told the adultress to go and sin no more.
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:23 PM
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It isn't Clinton that bugs the moralists. It's the "so what" attitude that came along with it.
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:07 PM
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25. because they're smart enough to see through the bullshit |
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:14 PM
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28. Name 10 issues where GOP is more pro family |
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Fri Jul-25-03 05:02 PM
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and by pro family what kinda of family. there is no such thing as a norm for what a family is. Look everyone its WASPS lol theres the dad whos a business man, the mom who is a homemaker and also the sunday school teacher, and their two kids. Sorry if I offended I just think of typical 1950's family mom,dad, and two kids just fooling around. Yes I am white not a WASP by far though. That family is the christian right ideal family and they vote republican.
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:19 PM
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what do you think?
And what do you think of the answers here so far?
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:44 PM
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32. Because Blacks = "Liberals Like Christ" |
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Why not ask "Why should ANY God fearing person vote for 'pro-family' repubs?" The vast majority of blacks in America are Christians, but unlike the many white Christians whose denominations were so off-base that they supported and endorse slavery, blacks are much more likely to be "Liberals Like Christ", i.e. they know that Jesus represents the LIBERAL values of love, understanding, respect, tolerance, generosity, compassion, justice, etc., not the CONSERVATIVE values of selfishness, pride, arrogance and judgmentalism. { See the two defined at great length at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Liberals }.
Democrats had better stop trying to hide under the table when the abortion issue comes up in "God-fearing" circles. I urge them to be ready to face it head on and proudly with the arguments we lay out for them at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/ChristianChoice .
Democrats have already lost many "God-fearing" white on this issue and I predict they will lose many "God-fearing" brown, if not black, voters on this issue if they continue to try to duck it.
at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org . WE are the Answer to the "Christian Coalition" & "Religious Right" . YOU are the way to get the word out, because unlike THEM, WE are the friends of the POOR and the downtrodden, who can't give US the kind of support the RICH give to THEM
if many blacks are god fearing why don't they vote for 'pro-family' repubs?
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Fri Jul-25-03 01:48 PM
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33. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT STUPID |
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Fri Jul-25-03 04:55 PM
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34. "God Fearing??" Its pysOps pure and simple. Once a person |
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becomes God Fearing, the Church Leaders own you.
They get to dominate and control you. Might even tell you who and how to vote.
The Emotion of FEAR is exploited by the ones using pysops.
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Fri Jul-25-03 04:57 PM
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35. being religious and particually Christian dont make you a republican |
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I am not black myself and a little religious but I really do wish that religious members of my own race could see what the religious minority voters see.
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Fri Jul-25-03 05:11 PM
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37. What's with this "they" shit? |
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Do you really want a bunch of white people giving you opinions on why Black people do what they do?
Why don't you address the question to Black people so you can get reliable answers?
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