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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 04:30 PM
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DAME DINO- Lynne Cheney & Joseph Lieberman founded.....
The American Council of Trustees and Alummi- according to this months Harpes magizine. The following is Harpes editoral words concering this group.

" For this group, any movement away from the grossly patriotic is a falling. They would save american culture by removing from it any thought that isn't utterly conformist with the opinion of the public at large"

This is the first I have heard of this group we should look into this and get the word out. This man is a RW trojan horse, the more I learn about the man the more BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP.

I can't stay online any longer right now ,do we know about this group?

I just looked up links-
Lynne Cheney-Joe Lieberman Group Puts Out a Blacklist
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1213-05.htm
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 04:38 PM
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1. New to me. That is awful.
I do not like Lieberman, but this is ridiculous.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 04:38 PM
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2. This issues has been already discussed here at length
Edited on Tue Jul-29-03 04:43 PM by jiacinto
Dolstein has addressed the issue. But you all think Lieberman is Satan so, when it comes to him, the truth matters little.

And here is what Lieberman wrote when he found out about it:

"From Lieberman to Jerry Martin, President, American Council of Trustees and Alumni (ACTA), Dec. 18: I am writing in regard to the Council's recent "Defending civilization" report.

In the past, the Council has sent me advanced copies of its publications before they have been released and asked for my support. In this case, though, I was never given the opportunity to review the report before it was made public. I first learned of it through a call to my office from a reporter in Connecticut about a controversy the report had stirred at Wesleyan University.

If I had been given an advanced copy, I would have objected to its content and methodology and asked you either to revise it or make clear that I had no involvement with it. But because that did not happen, and because I have been incorrectly listed on your Web site as a co-founder of the Council, a number of news accounts and commentaries have associated me with the report and incorrectly asserted or implied that I endorse it.

This letter is meant to set the record straight about my disapproval of this report, which I consider unfair and inconsistent for an organization devoted to promoting academic freedom. To avoid any future confusion, I would ask you to remove any reference to me as a "co-founder" of ACTA from your Web site or other Council documents. And I would ask that you note in any future public statements that I do not support this specific report. "

Source: http://www.theithacajournal.com/news/stories/20020205/opinion/1589693.html

Another link:

"Neal's report was taken to task in the press, the subject of critical articles in the New York Times, The Boston Globe and a number of other major outlets. Its heavy-hitting political allies are holding "Defending Civilization" well at arms length. Cheney herself denied having read the report in the New York Times, and Senator Joe Lieberman has issued a letter expressing his disagreement with the report. He is listed as a founder of the ACTA on their Web site, but his spokesman says, "That's a mischaracterization." "

Source: http://www.csindy.com/csindy/2002-01-24/cover.html

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 04:41 PM
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3. wow--and that's who woulda been VP under Gore
Edited on Tue Jul-29-03 04:44 PM by ima_sinnic
on edit:
jiacinto,
didn't see your post--I will return to simply disliking him--but will be definitely keeping him under observation.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 05:06 PM
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4. Kick
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 07:43 PM
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5. Oh Boy, LOOK at the Am Council's pdf report...... a who's who of
Edited on Tue Jul-29-03 07:45 PM by DagmarK
subversive college professors and intellectuals. (sarcasm!). Quotes like: "A lot of people prefer peace to bloodshed." THIS is according to the Council is counterproductive in this age of terra.......

There's a little SCARY quote by Lynne Cheney on page 1 of the Oct report.

Interestingly, they REVISED the report somehow in Nov 2001. And there is a specific statement that NO PUBLIC OFFICIAL "including L. Cheney and Lieberman" who have endorsed the report or were asked to endorse the report.

Why do I think that the revised version was changed just to ADD that. Lieberman probably doesn't mind too awfully much if speech and intellectual integrity is trounced in our universities, but with his future bid for the presidency, it might be foolish to put his John Hancock on it. Ooooooo, blasphemy for me to use the names John Hancock and Lieberman in the same paragraph!

Oh......Gonzalez' report doesn't even TOUCH the gist of what the report is about. .......

http://media.portland.indymedia.org/media/2003/07/268969.pdf
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 09:48 PM
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6. This issue has been debate before
Lieberman had nothing do with the report, and per reply #3, asked that his name not be mentioned.

But the facts matter little to the people here who think Lieberman is Satan.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 10:04 PM
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7. telling stories we like about Lieberman
is just as wrong as doing so about Dean. Lieberman clearly removed himself from that report as forcibly as humanly possible. This is a matter of public record. They altered the report due to Lieberman saying that he wasn't asked before his name was put on.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 10:06 PM
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8. Don't you know? Lieberman is the Devil no matter what
He is Satan--and no matter how much the facts get in the way he is an evil human being who preferes Israrel to America and is a Republican even though the GOP would never take him in.
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