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Tue Apr-20-04 02:57 PM
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Religion and Christianity |
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. Flame away. !
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Tue Apr-20-04 02:58 PM
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Tue Apr-20-04 02:59 PM
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2. And we can't get them to stop |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:15 PM
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21. Unfortunately, as a liberal Christian, |
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I have to agree with you on that one. Religion and government MUST be separate, end of discussion. I wonder how the fundies would like it if atheists acted like they did and forced their own version of law and morality on the rest of society.
I have no more right to demand that everyone adhere to my beliefs and that such beliefs be codified into the laws governing EVERYONE in society, not just Christians or any other religion, than atheists/agnostics/new agers, etc., have to do the same. I will share my faith with people who ask and genuinely want to know, but I don't force it on people or make them listen when they don't want to do so.
These fundie nutballs have twisted my religion into something damn near unrecognizable, and have turned countless numbers of people off; they've done more damage in just a couple of short decades than anything and anyone else. They have been responsible for more human suffering than almost anything else. I really have to wonder if they've even read the Bible at all, particularly the New Testament, because I don't think Christ would recognize them at all as followers of his, and I don't think they'd know him if he stood before them in nine hundred feet of thunder, lightning and glory.
On the other hand, I sometimes get the condescending, dismissive treatment from atheists and agnostics who put me down for having religious beliefs and for believing in something they don't. Live and let live, I say. People have the right to believe what they want, they don't have the right to judge others for not sharing their beliefs, or lack of beliefs.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:20 PM
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33. That's the longest, most well-thought out |
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post I have ever seen in the lounge. Congrats!
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:27 PM
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Yeah, I do tend to be a bit wordy at times. Guess that happens when you grow up the daughter of two English teachers and when you're a paralegal surrounded by lawyers all the time!
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:29 PM
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:21 PM
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how I feel about the dismissive treatment you recieve from those that share some of my beliefs. I look at this as a journey we are all on. We are born screaming and blind into this world and only by helping each other can we make any progress in it. So we are not all on the same page as far as what we make of this world. There are other things we can agree on.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:26 PM
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and I'm also sorry about what the fundies are trying to do to those (even among their own) who don't get in grateful lockstep behind them.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:00 PM
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4. Your post deeply offends me! |
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What do you think you are doing? Do you think you can just bounce there like that and nothing will happen?
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:00 PM
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:03 PM
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7. Bouncing doesn't exist! |
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And you should not do it in front of children. Please, stop. For Think of the children.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:04 PM
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:05 PM
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10. Stop that or I'll alert you! |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:05 PM
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Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 03:06 PM by Van Helsing
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All those poor children and kittens! :evilgrin:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:16 PM
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26. AHHHHH! Thou sacriligious blasphemer!! |
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Thou shalt burn in hell for that one!!!!!!:evilgrin:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:20 PM
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32. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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:( :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:05 PM
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:00 PM
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:01 PM
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6. This is an example of mocking |
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the recurring megathreads concerning religion and in particular Christianity.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:04 PM
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9. Stop mocking my thread |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:06 PM
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:19 PM
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30. Don't knock the clock |
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onto the smock!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:05 PM
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12. no wonder I didn't get it -- |
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I don't pay attention to those. :)
For the record, I am a former fundamentalist evangelical Christian, a former atheist, a current Christ-following agnostic, and a lesbian married to a devout Episcopalian hillbilly woman who was raised Southern Baptist. (Top that! ;))
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:07 PM
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I am just a lil ole Atheist, Taoist, Humanist, Unitarian Universalist with extreme leftist tendencies. I got nothing on you. :evilgrin:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:20 PM
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are definitely good people! I think we'll keep ya around, after all! :evilgrin:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:08 PM
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16. You're a flip-flopper! |
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You should learn to make up your mind and stick with it, no matter what no informatino arrises and no matter what happens.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:15 PM
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22. If I did that, I'd still be a Republican. |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:18 PM
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I don't think ANYTHING can top that, lol!!!
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:24 PM
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36. You know those UU churchs |
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You can find some that could give her a run for her money hanging around there on a slow day. :evilgrin:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:09 PM
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17. oh no! discussion about religion! I am immediately offended! |
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Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 03:09 PM by SheepyMcSheepster
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:09 PM
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18. I'm offended by that creepy guy in your avatar! |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:16 PM
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mi-mi-mi-mo-mi mi mi-mi-mo-mi mi-mi-mo?
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:16 PM
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25. Back off man! He's a scientist. |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:18 PM
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27. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! |
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That creepy guy is gonna replace the clowns in my nightmares!!! :scared:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:18 PM
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29. you need to see "The Muppet Movie" |
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If you do, Beaker won't freak you anymore.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:25 PM
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37. yes, "Beaker" is your friend. |
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i would watch out for the swedish chef if i were you.
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Wed Apr-21-04 06:19 AM
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46. Swedish Chef is cool: He tosses cabbage in the air, shoots it, and |
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it rains brussels sprouts.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:36 PM
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42. That brings up the question |
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Has science or religion caused more fire throughout history?
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:45 PM
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Bugger knew what he was doing when he gave us fire.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:49 PM
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44. i hear some say he did it out of spite! |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:12 PM
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19. jesus is fucking hot! |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:15 PM
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20. I'm pre-emptively offended! |
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At whatever you mean by that potentially inflammatory post! :grr:
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:15 PM
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23. I call it the Canuckistanian Doctrine |
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:22 PM
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35. You're right, my post was a gathering threat |
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And I commend you for acting immediately against that threat.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:27 PM
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39. not only was it a gathering threat, but...... |
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i think it contained devices of potential offensiveness related program activities!
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:56 PM
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45. deeply offended that you equate |
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religion and christianity with homosexuality
there is no proof that religion and christianity are
any more prone to flaming away than any other.
Frankly, if you'll allow frankness, it is becoming quite clear that
sexual orientation as well as ability to believe in the supernatural
are functions of brain develpoement during specific times of
development during gestation.
P.S. sorry if the inclusion of some factual information in this farcical post caused anyone to take it seriously.
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