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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:05 AM
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Target selling thongs for 5-10 year olds... can't shop there anymore
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:25 AM by redqueen
They have the cutest little slogans, too. Like "Hot Chick". :puke:

What the fucking fuck are these people thinking?

:argh:


Edited to add: my intention isn't just to stop being a customer, but to call and let their regional director and the corporate office know that until they stop this I can't spend money there in good conscience. :)
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:06 AM
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1. Must be run by Repubs, right?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:08 AM
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5. Honestly I don't know anymore
Don't care, either. I'm just super pissed because Target is cheap and I won't shop at Wal Mart so now what am I supposed to do?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:11 AM
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12. Not according to this.
At least it wouldn't seem that way.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:13 AM
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16. No. Target is very progressive for a big corp.
They're very involved in community development and support and they gives tons of money to local schools.
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:06 AM
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Moral values are very important here in the U.S.
:shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:09 AM
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7. Yeah, right
Not as important as pushing sexuality at younger and younger kids with each passing year. First Brats now this.

If anyone knows any marketing / R&D people involved with this shit please beat the shit out of them for me, wouldja?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:27 AM
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32. Oh, the Bratz dolls are abominations.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:34 AM
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39. what we need is an address for the president
write him a letter and send a picture of the offending thong. Sometimes they do not know what the stores actually carry. They will think you are a right wing type and cave immediately. The big problem with these things in the last 20 years is that it is harder to get in touch with the president of the company. A list of addresses would help a great deal in boycotting.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:43 AM
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40. "pushing sexuality at younger and younger kids with each passing year"
Then people continue to fight tooth and nail against sex ed in schools...:eyes:
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:06 AM
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2. Flip-flops or underwear?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:09 AM
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8. Underwear
Like I'd be pissed about flip flops. Or are you being sarcastic? Sorry.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:07 AM
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3. Maybe they're actually for midgets?
"Hot Midge"?

:shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:09 AM
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9. For ages 5-10.
I wish I could believe it wasn't true, but there it is.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:08 AM
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4. While this is in poor taste, Target is a very progressive company.
They give tons of money to local school systems and have a very positive attitude toward civic development, etc.

Please don't judge them based on one really stupid product decision.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:09 AM
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6. Actually, I think we should.
And we should continue to judge them until they remove the product.
Then we'll stop.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:12 AM
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13. Ok, then do something about it. Don't just say, "Don't shop there".
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:13 AM
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15. Well duh
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:15 AM by redqueen
Thanks for the link. Guest relations is 800-440-0680.

I'm still calling the regional director, though.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:16 AM
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18. My point is that the vast majority of people will complain about something
like this, but not do anything about it.

And, honestly, that's exactly what your original post sounded like. If that wasn't the intent, I apologize.

Give 'em hell: http://www.targetcorp.com/targetcorp_group/contactus/contact.jhtml

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:24 AM
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24. No, you're right
But yeah, I always intended to call and tell them WHY.

The guy at corporate just said 'sorry you were offended and I'll tell the executives'.

I still don't know where I'll get toys for Christmas. Toys R Us I guess.

And you're right about most people being lazy. I think TPTB want us that way, honestly.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:14 AM
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17. No problem.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:18 AM
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20. Sorry.
Sorry for the attitude.

I'm a little cranky, and in my experience, people seem to complain about things like this all of the time but never do anything about it. The original post sounded exactly like that, though I obviously don't know if the poster intends to contact them or not. I'm most likely reading an intent where none exists.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:21 AM
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22. Don't worry. Lots of people are cranky today.
For some reason. :D
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:24 AM
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25. Not enough sex
I always blame that. :)
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:26 AM
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29. Or too much sex, as is the case with this thread...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:27 AM
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31. Well, not the kids
adults are grumpy from not enough sex

kids are fucked up from having sex forced on them
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:28 AM
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34. They seem to embrace it...
trying to emulate thier heroes like B Spears.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:30 AM
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36. AAAAAAAAAAAAIGH!
YES! She's part of the problem, but parents not telling their kids why that's unacceptable and limiting the kids exposure to that kind of evil crap are even moreso, IMO.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:33 AM
Original message
Or angry internet people calling corporate execs
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:33 AM by Squatch
"...unacceptable and limiting <other peoples'> kids exposure to that kind of evil crap..."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:57 AM
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43. WTF?
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 11:59 AM by redqueen
Care to restate that? I'm not sure what you mean.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:58 AM
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44. Sure...
I just want to thank you personally for making sure that my kids are not exposed to the things that piss *you* off. Thanks a bunch for doing my parenting for me.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:59 AM
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45. So you want to be able to buy your 5-10 year old girl a thong?
Seriously?
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:01 PM
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46. If *I* want to, that's *my* business, not yours.
I do not ascribe the same morals to a piece of clothing as you do.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:02 PM
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49. Oh good! So you think sexualizing 5-10 year old girls is
an ethically acceptable form of moral relativism.

:puke:
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:05 PM
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53. Sexualizing? I may not ascribe any
sexuality to this alleged product as you do.

How about this...you let other people decide what's sexual and what's not for their own sake. It kinda makes getting along with people easier, yano?

BTW, why haven't we seen this product. Searched Target's website and found nothing.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:14 PM
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59. So you're accusing me of lying?
I don't buy into your moral relativism on this topic, Squatch. I think it's sick.

How about we let the standards of the community decide. It's worked OK so far. I like the system we have now, ambiguous as it is.

And since you dared to accuse me of lying, I will bring this ad in next week, scan it and post it.

You have no idea how pissed off I am right now at you. I have really fought hard to control my normally sailor-like disposition in this post. My hands are shaking I am so livid. You have been here a very short time. You might want to check yourself, bub.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #59
63. Ask me if I give a fucking shit
how pissed off at me you are. Check myself? For what? Is that a threat? How fucking BIG of you.

And show me where I accused you of lying. I did however, challenge you to provide proof of this product.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM
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67. Check yourself for your attitude.
It's not a threat, it's a suggestion. You come on a board and take this kind of 'well I can't find it so...' crap with people you don't know from Adam. You think that's cool?

You call it challenge... I call it an insinuation if not an accusation.

And don't worry, I'll provide the proof, regardless of the fact that you don't deserve it.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:21 PM
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73. You are cracking me up over here...
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:22 PM by Squatch
People who are willing to save me from myself by calling to corporate execs to pull products they find offensive.

I must say THANK YOU for protecting me...from me...redqueen!
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:04 PM
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52. Oh for God's sake.
have you ever been molested? Do you have any idea the damage sexualizing young girls can do for the rest of their lives?

I am not the fucking moral police. But the simple fact remains that a civilized society has to have limits--and the AMA, APA, and many other respected medical and scientific communities have all agreed that this sort of thing is damaging to a child's psyche. Get a grip.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:06 PM
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54. No, I will not let *you* set limits on *my* morality.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:09 PM
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56. That is an idiotic response.
THINK about what you're saying. You want children to be oversexualized early so that YOU can feel morally free?
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:11 PM
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58. And think about yours...
you all sound like a bunch of fucking freeptards.

"I don't like what somebody is selling, so I am going to force my morality on them and everybody who may come to patronize them"

Fuck that shit.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:15 PM
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60. Community standards, Squatch
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:16 PM by redqueen
and as far as freeperism, I will only say that I think there are OTHERS on this thread who are more freeperish than janesez or I, right about now.

:eyes:
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #60
65. MOB RULE, redqueen.
The cornerstone of freeperdom.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #65
70. So you believe in anarchy, then?
How old are you?

:eyes:

The community standards law has worked fine so far. I agree with it.

Democracy itself can be called MOB RULE, Squatch. You don't like that either, I take it?
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #60
68. Hey, go check out Bertha Venation's feral cat thread.
Apparently your thread isn't the only one where people are being indiscrimately shithead-ish. Somebody pissed in somebody's cornflakes this morning.

Let's leave it. Any rational person feels the way we do. No use wasting breath, stress, or energy. We've got enough to do.

:hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. No shit.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:21 PM by redqueen
I think I'll abandon this pointless exercise and go check that out.

Thank you!

:hi:


I'm still curious to know the age of this newbie, though.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #68
74. If you're not with us, you're with the terrarists...
Where have I heard that vomit before, janesez?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:10 AM
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11. Oh like hell
I'm going to call the regional office today and let them know my christmas dollars will NOT be going into their coffers unless they cut that shit out. I like that they're progressive but I have my limits.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:10 AM
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10. No wonder R. Kelly shops there
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:12 AM
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14. ba dum chhhhh
How can we be pissed at child molesters when we're practically MAKING the kids more sexual? What kind of fucked up society do we live in?

And the slogans on t-shirts are just as bad, but at least they're not fucking THONGS!
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:17 AM
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19. Oh my God----I guess I'll avoid Target ,then again---
I think I'll go and look for the nasty product and make a big scene.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. Hey that's a good idea!
:)
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #19
27. The whole thong thing
bewilders me.

I gasped when I saw thongs for SIZE 60 being advertised,
and again when I saw thong panty-liners in the store.

(I haven't yet seen thong panty-liners in size 60
and I don't know what I will do when I do see them.)
:shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #27
33. Please keep the fat bashing off my thread
There are lots of women comfortable with their big beautiful bodies, and lots of men who want to see them in thongs.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #33
61. I saw possibly the most bizzare thong ever
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:16 PM by dolo amber
at Target...it could only be described as a 'girdle/thong'. Because that's essentially what it was...a big industrial strength girdle with thong underpants sewn into it...:shrug:

Not at all fat bashing, just not sure I *get* the point of that...
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #27
35. What the fuck ever.
Why can't large women wear thongs if they want? You wanna stick 'em in some burqas? So your eyes aren't offended?

Your post is fucking offensive.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #35
37. You said it SO much better than I did
:loveya:
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #37
38. Heh.
It's possible I'm still cranky from the election. :shrug: :evilgrin:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:19 AM
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21. Please contact them nationally & reason with them...Target is
one of the few progressively managed/politically supportive companies out there. Let them know that their policies and political support has been a large reason why you shop there and that you are not a reactionary by any means. So, when someone with fairly liberal views is aghast at this trend, they really DO have a problem that needs to be addressed. Send it to their corporate managers AND their buyers. Please, ok?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. Yeah that was always the plan
Sorry I didn't make that clear from the outset.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #28
42. And don't forget to go BACK to shopping there when they fix the screwup nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #42
48. No problem!
I love that place!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:23 AM
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23. You don't like the "Li'l Streetwalker" collection?!
You're so "four-corners"!

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #23
30. I know!
All the other girls in my daughter's first grade class are already wearing fuck me pumps. I'm such a puritan.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #30
55. yeah there is a disturbing trend to all of this
I think it is gross. Sort of a "Pretty Baby" vibe to it. I really don't understand why we can't let kids be kids.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #55
62. Because some people are fucking sick.
:grr:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #62
66. it does seem like that doesn't it...
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:54 AM
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41. ARE THE USA COLLECTIVELY SMOKING CRACK?
I used to think Brazil was a mess of a country.

Boy, do I feel better now.

No, wait, I don't. This "fashion" is probably going to arrive here sooned or later.

Fucked up. Everything is fucked up. Who wants to fund a little rural community, totaly isolated from society and with a version of the USA Coinstitution revised for loopholes as the law of the land?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #41
51. Well we've got someone on THIS VERY FORUM
who thinks it's OKIE DOKIE!

:argh:

And I'm all for moving WAY THE FUCK AWAY from these people.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #51
57. Yes, I disagree with you on this matter
but I do support and encourage you to exercise your right to "move the fuck away"
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #57
64. Well you're the odd one out, Squatch
so why don't you be the one to do us all a favor, eh?
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #64
69. LOL
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:20 PM by Squatch
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:21 PM
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72. harr dee fucking har
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #72
75. Check yourself, bub. LOL
Nothing but another anonymous internet toughguy.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:01 PM
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47. Link to the product
want to spread the word, but couldnt find the product at target.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:03 PM
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50. It was in their circular last Sunday in the Dallas Morning News
Too lazy to look for a link online right now.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:26 PM
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76. You'd be surprised how many conservative Christians wear these
things. Moral values my ass. They just want to turn into Monica Lewinski.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:32 PM
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77. I don't have a problem with grownups wearing them
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:32 PM by redqueen
but sexualizing little kids is BEGGING child molesters to act on their impulses, IMO.

And yeah, I think sexually repressed people make up a lot of the fundies. :)
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