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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:34 AM
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Teen Charged After Waving Noose At Black Student
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MONROE - A Monroe High School student was charged with felony harassment Wednesday for allegedly waving a noose at a black student.

The white student, 17, called the other boy a racial slur and swung the rope back and forth before him in the school's parking lot in October, according to a charge filed in Snohomish County Juvenile Court.

The black student told police he "took that as he wanted to hang me, since I was the only black person there," court records say.

The white student claimed he did not know the black student was present, court documents say.

The black student reported the incident to a Monroe police officer Oct. 27. It was one of at least four racial incidents at the school since classes started in September.

A school security officer confiscated a noose from another student's car Oct. 19. That student said other students also had nooses in their vehicles but kept them in their glove boxes while at school, court documents said.

In mid-September, a Mexican flag was torn down and thrown into a restroom, Monroe School District spokeswoman Rosemary O'Neil said. An argument with "racial undertones" also was reported, she said.

The black student who reported the noose incident also told investigators the white student who threatened him had a racist tattoo on his arm. The boy called him and other black students racial epithets "all the time," court documents say.

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/11/11/loc_charge001.cfm
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:37 AM
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1. Good. I hope he is found guilty
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 07:39 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
What a lame argument. "I didn't know he was there."
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:39 AM
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2. Gee I knew a women who's husband used to do that.
She left.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:53 AM
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4. do what?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:33 AM
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10. Leave nooses around the house for her to find.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:41 AM
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3. Is that Monroe, Louisiana? I have relatives there.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:53 AM
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5. how is that young people think this behavior is acceptable?
This is a serious question.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:54 AM
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6. I don't believe that young people do think this is acceptable.
The people that think this is acceptable are racist and would think it was acceptable be they young or old.
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Zep Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:57 AM
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20. The kid had a racist tattoo ...
... and this proves he is not a mainstream sort of racist.

Was the tattoo self-inflicted, some sort of gang thing? Or could he have had parental permission for the tattoo?

There's more going on here than a kid having a bad attitude about race and being a bully.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:02 AM
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21. Exactly.
And this is not the first such incident either.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:01 AM
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7. It begins at home...
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 08:02 AM by itzamirakul
more than likely. And it is fueled by radio personalities like Rush.

If there is one person I would like to see get his come-uppance, it is Rush Limblah-blah. I know he could easily be replaced, though by a thousand other race-baiters just like him or even worse.

It's funny though, these same kids that practice this racism, also slavishly copy every single iota of the black kids mannerisms, dress code, language, music, dance and all other cultural aspects of the very people that they profess to hate.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:49 AM
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15. Because their parents think its acceptable, too!
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:49 AM
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30. Skin Head maybe?
If your goal was to preserve the world for the "Aryan Master Race" it probably seems pretty reasonable. Maybe even a bit lame. But as for the rest of society, I think we know the difference between free speach and threatening.
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:57 AM
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19. Snohomish County is in Washington State.
Why is a Canuck teaching you your country's geography? (Kidding).
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srk6969 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:04 AM
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8. Gee what happened to freedom of speech!
Folks can burn flags, march in protest, and other various things but they can't wave a noose or say whats on their mind?
The only thing i see that he is guilty of is being a asshole but he does have that right according to the constitution!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:07 AM
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9. "waving a noose" is a threat. Marching in protest is not a threat.
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 08:12 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
Neither if burning a flag. We are allowed to peaceably assemble and express our point of view. We are NOT allowed to threaten others. Not only is it a threat, it is a hate crime. It is meant not only to scare this particular student, but all black students.
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:35 AM
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11. double standard? why is it then...
....if we are not allowed to 'threaten others'- when an abusive spouse threatens their wife, the police will say 'until he actually does something, we cant do anything'..we've all seen this. and when the woman is killed, everyone says 'gee, we tried to stop him'..or 'why didnt the police do anything'...can someone explain?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:46 AM
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12. First of all, they should do something about a man threatening his wife
They should protect her.
Secondly, this "threatening" is a hate crime. A hate crime does not just threaten one person, it threatens a whole people. Those students who waved that noose at this kid did not do it because they had a problem with this particular student. They did it because he was black. They wanted not only to instill fear in this kid, but to instill fear in all black (and probably all minority) students.
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srk6969 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:46 AM
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13. Burning a flag
Is a threat to some! Try burning a flag in front of a Marine and see if you don't get your ass kicked! I can guarantee you will. A Marine considers it a threat against his country!
So why is it allowed when it is a threat to some people and waving a noose isn't allowed. Down here where i live, folks carry a cross and burn it on top of Stone mountain. Is that a threat?
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:48 AM
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14. wouldn't be burning the constitution be more upsetting
a piece of fabric is nothing but a piece of fabric...
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:50 AM
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16. Just because a Marine would beat someone for it, doesn't mean it is wrong
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 08:53 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
Burning a flag is an expression. You are not threatening anyone. You are not even threatening a country. What it is meant to symbolize is the displeasure with the way the country is acting.
And burning crosses? Why are they burning crosses, to teach blacks some sort of lesson?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:54 AM
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17. Question srk6969....Do you ever post positive in threads?
:shrug: Or do you just search for threads in which you can take an opposing view and mention the Marines???

Welcome to DU. :toast:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:56 AM
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18. freepers have nothing positive to say
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:04 AM
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22. Just what I was thinking!
Ah, the smell of disruption on a Friday morning. And in the Lounge no less! Is nothing sacred??? :)
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:10 AM
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25. Being a newbie here...
I do find it interesting how the lurkers come crawling out. Even when they're very careful and try to go "stealth", they still...well, reek.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:16 AM
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26. They are so easy to spot and ...
the funny thing is, I think they thing they're being, as you said, "stealthy". Welcome to DU, by the way! :hi:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:37 AM
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28. I would think that burning a cross WOULD be a threat, yes...
considering that burning crosses is a traditional pastime of the KKK, and seen as a direct threat to all Black Americans.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:32 AM
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27. You might have heard that there are limits to our freedom of speech
Do you actually equate bringing a noose to school and threatening to hang a student because he's black with peacefully marching in protest?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:48 AM
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29. whoa. dude.
waving a noose while making racial slurs is NOT free speech. That's assault. a crime.

why are you defending it? man, freepers need to get out in the real world once in a while
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:04 AM
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23. Ah, folks...I think this is about symbolism + racism...
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 09:12 AM by nine23
White kid + Black kid. 2004. Washington State. (Blue state, at least west of the Cascades.)

(edit) Oh, and I forgot this: LYNCH.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:06 AM
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24. It's about racism.
The kid made a racist gesture. He committed a hate crime. I don't understand what your post is trying to say? Do you think it was wrong of the kid to be charged? :shrug:
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