Does anyone else think Michael Jackson is dying?

[PinkTiger]

I think he is very ill, possibly mentally, and he is near the end of his rope. I'm not sure he can survive this trial.

Not that I'm sympathetic if he is guilty, but he has not been proven guilty,

Not yet.

[ailsagirl]

1. All I know is he's standing trial for something--

What makes you think he's ill? I'm sure you have your reasons-- but, since I'm not up on what's going on with him, I have to ask.

I know he's really messed up-- emotionally and psychologically-- but physically as well??

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

2. Personally, I think he's extremely anorexic as well

I agree, he looks ghastly.

[WillowTree]

3. Aren't we all?

[Toucano]

4. Not me.

I've found the secret to immortality, and I'm NOT sharing!

:P

[Dhalgren]

6. You better share.

You're going to get mighty lonely in a couple hundred thousand years...

[XOKCowboy]

18. Yeah...

Just ask Lazurus Long.

[njdemocrat106]

5. I can't imagine Michael Jackson as an old man

Interesting to see what he looks like 10 years from now, if he's still with us.

[soothsayer]

41. try imaging him as an old woman

[medeak]

7. thank gawd a Michael Jackson thread!

I was really missing it..

I don't think he'll make 45.

edited to say husband and I were saying the same thing...thinking Elton John will have to remake "Candle In the Wind" again...

[Dookus]

He's already 46....

but 47 is questionable :)

[aquart]

8. Too damn bad.

How often do the wealthy die because no one dares tell them how sick they are?

And if you don't know that man is a pedophile, you have not been paying attention.

[TrustingDog]

9. some kid witness yesterday found lieing...

is that what I heard? I don't pay much attention but seems like the prostttuters prosecuters may be in trouble.

someone is targeting Mikey. why, i don't know. Maybe it's because he dares to say he loves children, and not in the Franklin Scandal way.

[notadmblnd]

48. you may not be too far off on your thinking about Michael being a

target. Take a look at this little snippet. I found it while looking into the Jeff Gannon saga, it led me to all kinds of scary places on the internet but I found this particularly interesting in light of your comments.

snitp: Snip: The Fellowship certainly did not mind when singer Michael Jackson stayed with his children at the Cedars in October 2001 when he was in Washington for a benefit concert for the 911 victims. In a lawsuit filed in 1993, Jackson was accused of sexually molesting a 13-year-old boy. According to a September 27, 2002 Los Angeles Times article by Lisa Getter, Jackson’s stay at the Cedars was arranged through David Kuo, George W. Bush’s White House director of the Office of Faith-based Initiatives. Kuo, a former CIA employee who co-wrote a book with Ralph Reed, had been Executive Director of the Center for Effective Compassion, founded in 1995 by Arianna Huffington and Marvin Olasky. Olasky is a Jewish convert to evangelical Christianity, a major Christian reconstructionist proponent, and an ardent supporter of George W. Bush. Kuo also previously worked for the Christian Coalition and Senator John Ashcroft.

http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

[caligirl]

10. He's dying alright, from lack of money to pay anyone. He's dieing

from a broke n checking account.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

55. He may actually have to give in and

sell the rights to the Beatles songs back to McCartney!

And that would be sweet justice all by itself.....

[donheld]

32. Why have a jury hear his case

The media has already convinced you and many others so lets just hang him.

[Bluebear]

33. As long as Nancy Grace says so!

:crazy:

Due process is another right people are ready to give up!

[Cleita]

11. Jackson's trial is being held in my neighborhood, so we

get more coverage than we want. Sometimes we need to know if the grade is fogged in or the latest landslide has been cleared off of the highway but we are getting Michael or Scott all the time. My problem is, why should this be broadcast forever all over the country? I'm coming to the conclusion that trials involving celebrities should really be closed to the public. Look at th OJ fiasco.

At one time I thought that televising trials could be an educational thing for many people who can't go witness things in the courthouse, but the media doesn't want to televise the guy arguing over a property line or a mom and pop store being closed with eminent domain, they want the scandalous and sleazy. I say celebrity trials should be done behind closed doors. Once the courtroom is filled with observers, bye bye to anyone else.

It can be reported after wards like it used to be.

[medeak]

12. like poor Robert Blake?

poor guy hasn't gotten any coverage at all.

[Cleita]

14. That's good don't you think?

I think Michael should be tried and we shouldn't hear about it until afterwards, maybe a minute report at the end of each day. That's it. I am really fed-up with it.

[XOKCowboy]

13. WHO CARES!!

I'm sorry but why should I care about him? The fact that the MSM has nonstop coverage of his trial and the fact that people are eating it up just points out the vacuousness of the American populous right now. No wonder Bush won when people are so dumbed down.

He's a washed up pop star. Nothing more nothing less.

[Lex]

15. Actually he's a washed up pop star accused of a terrible crime

and contrary to what you may think, such trials have *always* grabbed the attention of the population. Now that we have the 24 hour news cycle, it just seems worse.

Sacchio and Vanzetti, Scopes Monkey Trial, the Fatty Arbuckle case, Leopold & Loeb, etc.

[XOKCowboy]

17. You're right....

It just upsets me that with all of the things that people should be aware of in the world today, we're inundated with MJ, Martha, Petersen, et al.

I'm doing my best to ignore all of these media extravaganzas. I refuse to call them media circuses because as Jon Stewart said, that's demeaning to the midgets in the 3rd ring picking up elephant dung!

[kskiska]

24. Don't forget the Lindbergh case

It was a circus outside the courthouse, where little wooden ladders were sold, just like the ones Hauptmann used to take the baby out of the house. It was a frenzy.

[Bluebear]

31. False imprisonment, that is why I CARE

It could be you or me "violating the Patriot Act" and being sent to Gitmo someday. Yawn. Oh well, just another liberal.

I have no idea whether or not he is guilty, but evidently a media conviction is good enough for some folks. :(

[Lex]

16. He looked very ill today. pic

[Cleita]

19. The theatrical touch of wearing his pajamas to court was

good I thought. This is why this shouldn't be reported at all until after the trial and everyone involved has left. I know about the pajamas because even though I refuse to watch any TV news I get the newsbreaks during the shows I am watching.

[Ivan Sputnik]

20. He died a long time ago.

In a sense. Sad.

[begin_within]

21. At the moment he's producing great theater.

[ultraist]

22. I think he is having a nervous breakdown

He obviously already has some weird issues and this stress may well be putting him right over the edge.

[Tinoire]

23. Dying? Not sure... Being hounded to a point where death is an escape- yes

This entire trial is a circus.

Michael Jackson is effing ODD but so are most very rich people. This latest family with the young boy they thrust into his lap are lying shits. I am glad Leno and one other famous Hollywoodian already testified that that same family had tried to set them up.

Sorry but I feel very sad for Michael. The "testimony" of that family is absolutely unbelievable and I say this as someone whose life was turned 180 degrees by child abuse in my husband's past.

I'm not saying Jackson is a saint but this entire latest charge is a JOKE. Michael Jackson's last album was heading in the dangerous antiwar, Muslims-are-people-too direction. How convenient this latest "scandal".

[NVMojo]

27. I feel sad for him too. And I've been up close to a lying sack of shit

prosecution and victims who later said they lied for one stupid reason or another. I am just too cynical.

[Bluebear]

29. That is what is called compassion.

At last.

[BuelahWitch]

51. Thank you, Tinoire

If his sister LaToya is to be believed, Michael was the victim of a pedophile when he was a young boy. It's quite obvious he's never gotten treatment for that, or any other mental instability he may have.

The man has been shielded from reality for most of his life, he doesn't know how to handle it. Like the OP said, I don't expect him to be with us much longer, either, no matter what the outcome of this trial.

[kweerwolf]

25. I don't think Michael Jackson is dying.

To my knowledge, drama queen-itis is not a fatal disease.

[NomoBreaks]

26. Nobody mentioned this more likely outcome.

I'm so sad to say I think Michael will kill himself eventually. It becomes the curtain-call of his sad journey from Pinocchio to Pagliacci. I simply cannot see a more likely outcome.

I will grieve for him.

[begin_within]

30. Jacko sees himself as Peter Pan. The ending to Peter Pan goes like this:

Captain Hook ends up getting eaten by the giant alligator. Wendy, John,Michael, and Peter go home and ask their parents if the Lost Boys can live with them. At first Wendy's dad isnt to sure and gets angry, but in the end they say yes. Peter watches as it happens and goes back to Neverland with Tinkerbell.

[kittykitty]

28. I think he wanted to be Elizabeth Taylor

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

39. He supposedly has a room in his home in honor of her. n/t

[soothsayer]

44. Nah, diana ross or I think Nefertiti, right down to the tip of his nose

(to be like the damaged statue)

[ariesgem]

34. According to Faux News, he's now on suicide watch

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150097,00.html

[pen dragon]

35. He's playing games

and acting like he's guilty of something. I don't agree how he's already been convicted in the press but let's face it, he's another creepy, slimey troll whose fame and fortune has corrupted his soul

[Speed8098]

36. "He's playing games"

Now tell me............why on earth would anyone PRETEND to be guilty of an offense as serious as this one?

I don't agree how he's already been convicted in the press but let's face it, he's another creepy, slimey troll whose fame and fortune has corrupted his soul

His fame and fortune was the result of his father pushing him every step of the way during his childhood.

The Jackson 5 was an integral part of alot of our childhoods. We watched Micheal Jackson become the superstar that he is.

As Americans, we owe him the benefit of the doubt.

Facts are, in America, you are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

So,I say once again, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

I don't know if you were alive during the battle of the Jackson 5 and the Osmonds, but the music that came out of it was interesting to say the least.

Wait for the facts.

[mopaul]

37. the jackson 5 sucked, the osmonds sucked worse

michael jackson is the greatest freak of all time. and only slightly talented, extremely formulaic, phony, over hyped, not a great singer or dancer or entertainer, way too self important, and only fools think he is oh so wonderful.

we as americans owe mr. jackson nothing. all he is now is the world's most famous pedophile.

[BuelahWitch]

56. Just because you didn't like them doesn't mean they "sucked"

Who died and made you the god of musical taste? Those kids (and the Jacksons and the Osmonds were nothing but kids in their heyday) worked damn hard for what they got. They put out record after record, rode for months on stinking buses to do nightly concerts, got very little education so they could work, and lived in isolation alot of the time because they got mobbed if they went out in public. To me that's a hell of a life for a pre-teen or teenager to have to live.

As for talent, I'd pit young Michael against the "manufactured" teen idols of today any day. He had a beautiful voice, as opposed to "all tits and no talent" Brittany Spears, who croaks so badly she sounds life a frog in heat.

[Speed8098]

59. Whoa Mo, What's up with you today?

I haven't seen you react to a post like this before.
Are you having a bad day or what!?

we as americans owe mr. jackson nothing.

We owe him as much as we owe anyone accused of a crime, and that's the presumption of innocence.

You disagree?

[pen dragon]

38. i couldn't even get past your first sentence, speed

Who said he was pretending to be guilty.

[Speed8098]

57. You did.

Your Words: He's playing games and acting like he's guilty of something.

Would you like some soda with that crow?

[lonestarnot]

40. Who gives a tinker's damn! He is not news! Tired of time wasted on him

There are issues much bigger than whether or not MJ is a weiney wagger.

[Lex]

53. History as a guide . . .

Contrary to what you may think, such trials have *always* grabbed the attention of the population. Now that we have the 24 hour news cycle, it just seems worse.

Sacchio and Vanzetti, Scopes Monkey Trial, the Fatty Arbuckle case, Leopold & Loeb, etc.

[ronnykmarshall]

58. You must ..

you clicked on this thread.

[SmokingJacket]

42. Anorexia.

Pretty obvious, and I'm guessing it'll kill him.

Men do get it, and not a lot of sympathy for it either.

(I'll let the jury try him -- I have no opinion on that.)

[samplegirl]

50. Michael Jackson is just another Fox News scapegoat

from reporting real news........like Jeff Gannon for starters.

[Mike Daniels]

43. Well his career is certainly dying

I don't know about Michael Jackson himself but guilty or innocent, I don't see his career doing a Prince-like resurrection after this trial.

[LizW]

45. He's obviously very sick

Anorexia, at the very least.

I feel sad about the whole thing. Jackson is the same age I am, and I grew up listening to his music for decades. There was a special on tv about his career a while back and my kids were amazed. They were shocked, first of all at how he's changed his appearance over the years, but also at how talented he was and what incredible fame and following he achieved at one time.

Before we watched this, they just thought he was a frail, creepy, nutso guy. They had no idea that he had been a HUGE pop star. When they saw him dance and do the moonwalk (this was film from the 80's) their jaws dropped.

I have no comment on the charges against him, except to say that if he did the things he's accused of, he should be found guilty and punished.

But even if the charges and the trial had never happened, I would still feel sad to see Jackson destroy himself. He is an icon of my generation.

[RPM]

46. who cares

so irrelevant

[dddem]

47. what do you mean?

Don't you watch CNN? Fox? Entertainment tonight? EVERYBODY cares! All of America cares! It's what's important! Besides Martha, of course. Loved those jammies, didn't you? :7

[Walt Starr]

49. Not Me

But I do see him dying if he's convicted. No way could he take prison for even six months, even if he's not in General Population.

[sniffa]

52. one can hope

[CO Liberal]

54. Technically Speaking, We All Are Dying

I remember back in 1962, when I was in the Fourth Grade. Mrs. Randall, the school principal, was speaking to my class one day, and she said something that was so permanently etched in my mind, I can remember it to this day, more than 40 years later:

"Each minute we live is one minute closer to our death."

[ronnykmarshall]

60. She must have been a joy at PTA meetings.

"Your child is grades are not good, but she'll drop dead one day so don't worry about it."

[amazona]

61. no I believe he's a hypochondriac

I am inclined to believe that he is innocent of the crime he's been accused of, but I'm aware that Mr. Jackson is imperfect and that among his weaknesses is an inclination to blow up minor pain or illnesses to more than they really are.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[Shakespeare]

62. I think that regardless of the verdict, he's not going to prison.

If he's convicted, I look for him to either pull a Roman Polanski (flee the country) or commit suicide. And I think he's horrifically mentally ill (and likely criminally so).

[drumwolf]

63. I give him another ten years at most, under any circumstances

The guy has been through just as much self-abuse and hard-living as any alcoholic or heroin-addicted rock star, including Keith Richards or Jerry Garcia. And he's every bit as tragic as people like Garcia or Elvis or Kurt Cobain.

Then again, I didn't think Keith Richards -- pop music's other living-dead zombie -- would make it to 60, so I guess anything's possible.