A little Michael Jackson reading/or a lot. Interesting read/with

[candy331]

plenty foot note references. For those who care to read others just skip the thread.

http://www.mj-case.net/part1.html

[jojo54]

1. I know he isn't guilty

This article states:

"Did Janet Arvizo set out to meet Michael Jackson with the intention of eventually filing a child abuse lawsuit against him? And if they were aware of Arvizo’s potential motives before they arrested and charged Jackson, why did authorities choose to go forward with the case?"

I'll tell you why the case is going forward anyway....because the murdering chimp man wants to focus the attention of John Q. Public on some other sensationalism, and Michael Jackson is about as sensational as it gets. I'm not a huge fan, I like some of his music but personally, I think he's ecentric. The reason he has to be around children all the time is 'cause his father was such a prick and very rarely showed those kids any love. Sorry I'm rambling.

[candy331]

4. Tom Sneddon seems to be on the Tom Delay level, evil at it's worse.n/t

[eaprez]

2. Might be a scam but I still believe he's a perv

[candy331]

3. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs whether right or wrong but facts

should be used to get at any truth, you might try reading some of the well researched material laid out in the piece. Is Bush a Christian? I believe no, but that is just my belief, see what I mean?

[donheld]

5. I'll add this here too. From LA times

SERIOUS THINKER/SURREAL TRIAL
Wacko Jacko's Mooch Accusers
By Elaine Showalter
Elaine Showalter is a cultural critic, professor emeritus of English at Princeton University and the R. Stanton Avery Distinguished Research Fellow at the Huntington Library. She is the author of "Sex

March 13, 2005

Private jets, white limousines, spa treatments, posh resorts, cosmetic surgery — we heard quite a lot in Michael Jackson's child-molestation trial last week about the lifestyles of the allegedly abused and victimized. As the mother and siblings of Jackson's Accuser have explained in their video interviews and courtroom testimony, they went from living cramped in a one-bedroom apartment in East L.A. to living large on the proceeds of celebrity charity and compassion.

"We were broken and Michael fixed us," Accuser Mom said in a video made by Jackson's team and shown to jurors.

She could also say that they were broke and Jackson funded, clothed, fed and housed them. The long list of celebrities (including Jay Leno, Mike Tyson and Adam Sandler) the Accuser Family allegedly solicited for funds suggests that being broken, as well as broke, was their full-time source of support.

There's a controversial psychological disorder called Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, in which a parent, almost always a mother, seeks repeated medical attention and surgical treatment for a child with mysterious ailments that turn out to be fabricated or even inflicted by the mother. Psychologists who have studied Munchausen's observe that financial gain is rarely the motive; instead, the mother is seeking a sense of importance and distinction.

In what I call Moochausen's Syndrome by Proxy, however, the motives are purely economic — a parental figure makes money from a child's genuine illness or star potential.

In literature, Fagin and his gang of child pickpockets are thrilled to come upon the orphaned Oliver Twist and to profit from his possible inheritance.

"When the boy's worth hundreds of pounds to me," Fagin tells a compatriot about finding Oliver, "am I to lose what chance threw me … ?"

In the wacko world of Moochausen's, a child's disease, a charge of shoplifting or proximity to a rich celebrity with a reputation as a weirdo and a history of settling accusations with huge cash payments can be a lucky break, an opportunity for the deprived to cash in. And these days there are enough examples of successful parents exploiting and overworking children with acting, athletic or musical ability to make those who do not cash in seem almost un-American.

Michael Jackson himself has said that he was literally beaten and figuratively robbed of his childhood by his father, who mooched off his talented children.

Maybe we shouldn't blame Accuser Parents for trying to grab what chance throws them, even if it is cancer. Perhaps from their point of view, they are needy rather than greedy, like Oliver Twist when he plaintively asks, "Please, sir, I want some more."

When Moochausen's becomes a way of life, it has to be sustained, so after disease and remission come charges of sexual abuse, lawsuits and claims of damage. But in the first week of this trial, it is far from clear exactly who has been damaged and how.

[OneBlueSky]

6. guilty or not (and I don't believe he is), there's no way . . .

that the prosecution can prove this case "beyond a reasonable doubt" . . . that write-up was interesting and revealing, and answers a lot of disturbing questions about how this case is being handled both by the prosecution and the media . . . and you can bet that all of it will be introduced by the defense at some point . . . there's enough reasonable doubt here to drive a Mac truck through . . .

as to why I don't believe he's guilty . . . Jackson obviously has a thing for young boys, but the guy's not stupid . . . after having to shell out millions and suffering a severe blow to his image in 1993 (over what now seems to have been a scam), he'd have to be completely out of his mind to get involved with a kid . . . also, there are just too many similarities between the leaked transcript of the earlier kid's grand jury testimony and testimony in the current case . . . in some instances, the language is almost identical . . .

if what's reported in this document is even remotely accurate, it appears that accusing Michael Jackson in hopes of a big payoff has become something of a cottage industry in California . . . and it seems that the current case is just the most recent example . . .