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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:11 PM
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Hackers Took Over My Company Server
In about an hour I'll have to work to set up all our websites, emails, etc, etc. I'm in for a long night.

They set up a spoof phishing site among other things.

I hate spammers and internet criminals.

Ask me anything.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:14 PM
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1. What were you running?
Linux/Apache? Windows/IIS?
Ensim/CPanel/Plesk?

Did they root you? or just get control of the one domain?

What vulnerability did they exploit?
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:15 PM
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2. Linux Apache
Yeah they rooted us. No idea yet exactly what exploit they used, but they got in, set up their own root user and then went to town.

Luckily we keep all our files multiply backed up so we dont' ahve to worry about hidden corrupted files on our websites, but setting up all the websites from scratch is going to be a bitch.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:38 PM
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4. That truly sucks
That kind of thing really makes me nostalgic for the old days when all that was usually done was to look around or change /etc/motd (or whatever the equivalent was on VAX or the System ??? (350? 360? was that was what IBM was pushing in the 80s?)).
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:53 PM
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8. Yeah, these were criminals
They set up a phishing site for a major bank among other things.

Really sucks.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:38 PM
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3. Ouch
I get phished a few times per week. I always try to track down the fake server and notify whoever is behind it. It may be hacked, but at least someone knows about it.

The phishers use the same bank page but the server changes at least once per day.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:42 PM
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5. I notified a hosting provider
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 06:53 PM by salvorhardin
of one of their servers being used for a phishing scheme last week and the company actually replied "We can't be responsible for everything our customers do!"

No... no you can't. However, you could actually have some balls and enforce a reasonable TOS and AUP and shut them down! Man, if I ever found out one of my people was using their site as part of a phishing scheme I'd drive over to their place (most of my customers are local) and strangle them.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:51 PM
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7. That is the biggest cop out ever
If they know some of their users are using their services to mess up other people's shit, why the hell wouldn't they do something?
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:00 PM
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11. Should be taken offline immediately
Take em off line and sort it out later.

Of course now I have to sort it out on a fucking Sunday night. I'll probably get the call in 5-10 minutes to go at it...

I'm so pissed....I'm already feeling tired.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:59 PM
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10. Exactly
Any company that says they aren't responsible....well that's just lame.

As soon as we found out that we had been hacked our server was taken offline. We're communicating with the bank directly that the phishing site was targeting to help them out.

It just sucks.

Another thing that pisses me off is that I wouldn't be doing this right now if people didn't fall for these phishing scams in the first place. They do it because people are stupid.

Makes me angry that I have to work all night tonight because Ma and Pa Barker are stupid.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:56 PM
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9. Yup That's Them
Fake bank page.

The really annoying thing is that we were concerned about it earlier in the week that the server had been hacked and our IT people said they checked it out and it was fine.

Now it's sunday night and i'm going to be working till god knows when to get everything back up.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:50 PM
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6. They are assholes
But my real hate goes out to those bastards who create computer viruses.
Why would you want to destroy other people's property for no good reason. I had a virus totally fuck up a computer once and it cost me hundreds of dollars to fix---plus countless hours getting all my programs and documents.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:01 PM
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12. They're bad too
I don't know who I hate more....right now it's the phishers.

The virus makers...they anger me, because most of them aren't in it for anything other than the misery and destruction of others. It makes them feel powerfull. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost.

The phishers though. They're actively criminals. They're seeking to steal and harm and do it by breaking into your house and making it look like you're the criminal.

They should be flayed alive.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:06 PM
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13. when are we going to get some decent enforcement
mechanisms for internet crimes? if there was an agency that you could forward these phishing e-mails, etc, to, this stuff would last 20 seconds. geez.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:08 PM
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14. We need education too
Enforcment is good, but if people simply didn't respond to these types of scams it wouldn't be a problem.

It's simple. If someone sends you an email saying there is a problem, ignore it...or if you have to do something, go directly to the companies website and contact them via email about it, including the email that was sent to you. If it's legit they'll help you out.

If everyond did that for a month or two people wouldn't try pulling the scam anymore.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:19 PM
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15. but we'll never educate everyone.
and it only takes a few. but if you and i could send these things on when we get them to someone who would track them down, no phish would go undetected for more than an hour.
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