I need some examples of liberal good vs conservative bad.

[MrSlayer]

I'm sort of arguing with some Freeperesque Eagles fans and I'd like to have a few more examples of what liberals have brought to the table here in the United States. I have some good con stuff but feel free to suggest or correct anything if you'd like.

Here's what I have so far.

It's funny to hear people use the word liberal as if it's something bad to be. Yeah it sure is terrible to have weekends off, to work for a living wage, to have worker's comp when you get hurt, to have equal rights regardless of race, religion, sex or sexual orientation (a work in progress), to fight for clean water and air and to want better education. Just to name a few.

You have to thank the liberals for even having this country. The conservatives of the revolutionary times backed King George (sound familiar?) not the freedom fighters. Today they would be calling Washington and Jefferson terrorists. The conservatives backed the genocide of the American Indian in the west. The conservatives backed slavery during the civil war. The conservatives were against women having the right to vote in the 1910's but were for prohibition. The conservatives were against the Labor Movement of the 30's. The conservatives were against the civil rights movement of the 60's but were for Vietnam. Today they are for corporate fascism, war and theocratic rule and against their own economic interests and The Constitution. Every bit of progress that has been made in this country has been due to liberal, progressive thinking. I'm hard pressed to find one instance where the Cons were on the side of right and goodness instead of greed and hatred.


Any help is appreciated.

[Dr.Phool]

1. Sounds like you don't need any help

You seem to have it under control.

Tell them to listen to a few Eagles songs. A good start would be off of Glen Frey's live album. "I've got mine".

And by the way, back in the '80s when these people started calling themselves "conservatives" I called them "reactionaries". Now I call them fascists.

[MrSlayer]

2. Thanks I was afraid I was coming up short.

BTW these are Eagle football fans not the band. Heh.

[joefree1]

3. Take em all the way back to the revolution

Conservatives would have been the royalist then fighting for King.

[MrSlayer]

6. Yeah got that.

Thanks.

[WilliamPitt]

4. Weekends, seatbelts, safe food, Kevlar vests and birth control

for starters.

[MrSlayer]

5. Thanks Will.

I missed all of them except the weekends. I did add some stuff about Jesus being the no 1 liberal of all time. Should ruffle them up a bit.

[WilliamPitt]

7. Re: Kevlar

Comes from the same place as weekends: Unions demanding better quality of life. For the police unions, it was Kevlar vests. They got them after bitching up a storm.

[MrSlayer]

8. :Taking notes:

Thanks again.

[WilliamPitt]

9. Safe food = Upton Sinclair's book 'The Jungle'

and seatbelts, frankly, were all Nader.

[xmas74]

13. That is not a book for the squeamish!

First time I read it I was either 13 or 14 and I thought that I would be sick. I quit eating meat or any kind of processed foods for two years after.

[hfojvt]

10. so the folice state can harrass me always about seat belts?

Next it will be mandatory bicycle helmets.
Down with the safety gestapo!

[WilliamPitt]

11. Smash the folice state!

:)

[hfojvt]

12. more like resist, they usually do the smashing

and folice is not a typo it is short for "fascist police" and useful in the phrase "puck the folice!" even though it will never catch on as a bumper sticker, and more than "Big Brother says: buckle up" will. :D