Brucey
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:52 AM
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Who is the most over-rated politician ever? |
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Bush, Woodrow Wilson, Eisenhower....? Who do you think was the most over-rated in history?
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:54 AM
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1. this is revenge isn't it |
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for my music poll!!!
I vote for Reagan.
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:56 AM
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RONALD REAGAN, RONALD REAGAN, RONALD REAGAN, and, oh yeah, RONALD REAGAN. I love hearing his cult following weep and wail about how "underestimated" he is when he has an airport named after him, a federal building named after him, he's widely considered in many (misguided) circles to be responsible for the downfall of the Soviet Union, and he's NEVER paid the political price for the horrendous deficit he helped to build. I could go on and on, but I'm getting sick just thinking about it!
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:07 AM
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23. Just imagine if you lived in a part of the country |
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Where they were naming every depression in the road for him. I'm pretty sure the water meter cover in my front yard will become the 'Ronald Reagan Memorial Water Meter Cover' within weeks of his demise.
And is there anybody here who sees Rove shoving a pillow over Ronnie's face a couple of weeks before the 2004 elections? I sure do. King Ron was the instigator of 'ends justify the means' politicking -- it would be a sweet irony if his end became part of the whole dirty tricks canon, wouldn't it?
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:38 AM
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30. Yep, That'll Be The Tear Jerker The Repukes Will Use To Get Those |
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flag wavers back out and out to the polls.
old dead ronnie will win the W.H. for AWOL.
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Thu Oct-16-03 06:46 PM
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There you go again. Worst president ever.
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:58 AM
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The Republican Secular Saint. I DREAD his demise for the insane orgy of Republican grief that they will try to foist on the rest of us.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:02 AM
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5. I was just thinking the same thing! |
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I think when that finally does happen (and PLEASE don't let it be next fall, right before the election!), I'm just going to turn off my TV and radio, and not read any newspapers or magazines for several days. I just don't think I could take it. It was bad enough having to endure his presidency.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:07 AM
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8. just wait for the stamp. |
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:10 AM
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Now you've REALLY made me lose my breakfast! I think I'll mail my bills and my nasty letters to collection agencies using that stamp.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:14 AM
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they'll quickly implement their plan(that Grover Norquist cretin is behind it)to replace Hamilton on the $10 bill with Reagan:(
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:20 AM
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12. AAARRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Now you've REALLY gone and done it!! Where's that hole in the wall I want to climb in and hide in forever? If that happens, I ain't NEVER using that bill!
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:02 AM
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the media goes out of its way to make it seem like he was this great president when he didn't accomplish half of what Clinton did--and they go out of their way to knock Clinton down. Also Ronnie had a bigger and greater scandal than Clinton ever did--Iran Contra.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:04 AM
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6. Oh, but Reagan didn't get |
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a blow job from an intern (at least as far as we know!), which is so much worse than anything else anyone's ever done!
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:02 AM
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Now you're making ME lose my breakfast
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:15 AM
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I'd rather get a blow job from an intern, as opposed to waking up next to that cold stick woman NANCY!!!!!
Now I've got to go bleach out my minds eye!
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:07 AM
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A very limited man in the toughest job. All image no substance.
Housing prices skyrocketed under his tenure, putting affordable housing out of reach of many middle class people.
He helped foster an insatiable military industrial that was good at producing junk. Wasted bllions of dollars on unecessary defense projects such as taking ships out of mothballs just to drydock them once again.
He was the first of the "Puppet Republicans" (my term, I just made it up). A Teleprompter President, he could only read off a script someone else wrote for him (sound familiar?).
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:11 AM
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10. Uncle Friggin' Ronnie |
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:22 AM
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Tampico and Dixon IL cling to Dutchie like a rash. I was young during the RayGun years, but I knew plenty who dispiesed him. I still find his electoral landslide a bit hard to believe.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:23 AM
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Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 09:24 AM by bowens43
leader of the most corrupt administration in the history of our nation.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:24 AM
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Say what you will about Reagan, at least he could piece together coherent sentences.
Bush on the other hand not only can't form a coherent sentence, but he blew the surplus, squandered the world's post 9-11 sympathies and snubbed the U.N., outed a CIA WMD expert. . .. I'm preaching to the choir here, I know, but the fact that this man still has the popularity he does is amazing, and he has from the very onset been the most highly over-rated politician in history. This is a guy who most people wouldn't trust to flip their burgers.
Reagan was over-rated, sure, a "great communicator" he was not. But compared to Bush, Reagan had a Chomsky-level grasp of language.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:24 AM
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16. Reagan. Wow, unanimous so far. |
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Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 09:26 AM by boxster
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Edit: never mind, not any more!
I agree Bush is highly overrated, but I think the sheer numbers of people - Democrats and Republicans alike - who thought (and still think) that Reagan was God still put him at the top.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:37 AM
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17. Raygun, Little Bush and future; Ahnul the Groper... |
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During the Raygun era, young college grads couldn't find jobs except at McDonalds. Little Bush, what can we say about him? Ahnul the A$$hole...what is this country coming to?
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:42 AM
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18. Thanks DUers for your good sense. |
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It is nearly unanimous... Raygun is the most over-rated politician in history. I agree. What a dork, and even had an airport named after him while he was still alive. He killed a little girl (ordered an attack on Kaddafi that resulted in killing his daughter), sold guns to terrorists who used them to kill nuns, ruined the economy so much that his protege, Poppy Bush, had to break his "read my lips" promise and raise taxes, fired air-traffic controllers which nearly ruined the industry and created havoc with unions, and said trees caused pollution. What an ass. Good job DUers, you got it right.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:57 AM
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I never could figure out what Gangrene Gingrich had going for him. I'm glad his balloon finally burst.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:04 AM
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that Paragon of Repuke Self-Righteous Hypocrisy, who loves to lecture about "morality" and "family values" when he served his first wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery so that he could marry his younger mistress, then left his second wife to marry his even younger legislative assistant, and ignores and disparages his gay sister, Candice, is, unfortunately, making a comeback.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:04 AM
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The FIRST 'movie star' Prez.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:21 AM
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Wait, I changed my mind. It's Reagan.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:25 AM
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26. Gotta go with reagan... |
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but both bush's are right behind.
Seems to me, the GOP goes to the local Piggly-Wiggly produce section to pick their prime candidates. There have to be SOME intelligent repukes out there, can't they find even ONE?
Reagan is by far the most overated so far though. He was a complete dud as a president. As long as he stuck to the script, the GOP thought he was great. But if he moved out of character, he was lost. Just like when he told the world he was a bomber pilot during WWII over Europe. If he was a bomber pilot, he dropped his load over Hollywood!
Peggy Noonan, excellent wordsmith she is, made the Reagan years what they were, and illusion wrapped in flags and drumrolls. There was simply no substance top anything he said or did. But the consequences of his actions will haunt us for a long time.
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re:puke:licans and Fake-riots suck ass!
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:26 AM
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:32 AM
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28. Tie between Reagan and JFK... |
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each inspire insane worship
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:36 AM
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what a sorry excuse for a president. he did NOTHING but screw this country up for generations to come.
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Thu Oct-16-03 11:46 AM
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31. H. Ross Perot never accomplished squat |
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His shining moment was his opposition to NAFTA, but he did not succeed. I never could stand his massive ego or that corny Texas accent.
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Thu Oct-16-03 04:27 PM
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for the simple fact that he has been lionized as some champion of black rights, when that just was not the case. He did what he had to as a matter of political expediency
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Thu Oct-16-03 05:35 PM
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put himself forth as a champion of black rights. That was the work of later generations, not him. While he certainly was not the "nigger lover" the South derided him as, and while he reluctantly signed the Emancipation Proclamation, you have to realize that he was a lot more enlightened on race matters than most people of that time, who took it for granted that blacks and non-whites were naturally inferior to whites. And he did go against the wishes of the Union military command in ordering the use of black troops.
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Thu Oct-16-03 06:31 PM
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34. Lincoln's first inclination was |
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to expatriate all blacks. Free blacks as well as slaves.
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Thu Oct-16-03 06:33 PM
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35. Speaking of which, TR had a black man over to the WH... |
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and it caused such a stir, that although TR was no racist, he never invited another one. It was political expedience, but, you must also take into contrast the notions of the time period. While slavery and racism should never be given free reign, it takes time and effort to release people from their ways of thinking.
It is never an easy task to try to enlighten those that wish to remain in darkness.
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Thu Oct-16-03 06:42 PM
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Seriously - is this a trick question or something?
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