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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:07 PM
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The "Christian Underground"
As they say, imitation is the highest form of flattery. Below is an entire email I received today - from one of the groups I keep tabs on.

You could go to their front page and take their poll - but then they would have to disgard the results....

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Dear TVC Supporter,

This is a recommendation to check out a great website
and daily newsletter.

Please visit http://www.christian-underground.com and
sign up for their daily newsletter.

It is an excellent resource for the Christian Community
to stay informed.

Sincerely,
Rev. Louis P. Sheldon
Chairman
Traditional Values Coalition

A TASTE OF THE CU...
The Christian Underground
http://www.christian-underground.com
Please Support The CU
http://www.christian-underground.com/donate.php
---
This is the Cu's Daily Email
Here are some of the latest Articles Posted on the CU
as of 04-09-2005 03:42:02...
Eight Days Of Atheistic Gibberish - My Response

By Michael John McCrae
April 9, 2005

On April 1st, Thomas Keyes submitted: “I once Believed In God”. I got the joke. Happy April Fool’s Day. Thomas Keyes may have believed in the God of his childhood religion, but he never grew into a man of faith.

Religious themes and images make fashion statements for the faithful

By Ruth La Ferla
Salt Lake Tribune
April 9, 2005

NEW YORK - Late last week, Trapper Blu, a ski and snowboarding instructor from Wanship, Utah, dropped in with his family at Christopher's, a T-shirt shop in Greenwich Village, and tried on a shirt emblazoned with an image of Jesus and the slogan ''Put Down the Drugs and Come Get a Hug.''

LITTLE ROCK: House approves student prayer

Rob Moritz
April 9, 2005

LITTLE ROCK - Legislation that would prevent school officials from stopping student-led prayer at public school functions was approved by the House Friday.

The 75-9 vote sends House Bill 2971 to the Senate.

Pro-Lifer Acquitted on Fetal Body Display

April 9, 2005

Jeff White, Director of Survivors, a pro-life youth organization, and former director of Operation Rescue, was found not guilty in the District of Columbia of keeping a dead body for the purpose of display to the public.

Conservative Group Blasts ACLU for Call to Fine, Jail School Officials

By Melanie Hunter
April 08, 2005

A conservative group is blasting the ACLU for recommending that school officials in New Orleans be "fined or jailed" for failing to stop prayer before a high school baseball game in March.

Calif. appeal court says legislature cannot legalize gay marriage

-- without public's OK

Michael Foust
Apr 8, 2005

A California court April 4 upheld the state's domestic partnership law but also gave conservatives some good news, concluding that the legislature is prohibited from legalizing same-sex "marriage" without first taking the issue to the public.

VA: RICHMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT STILL HARASSING PRO-LIFE CHRISTIANS

–- CALLS FOR INERVENTION REPEATEDLY IGNORED

Life and Liberty Ministries
April 8, 2005

Once again, a pro-life Christian has had to appear in Richmond General District Court to answer bogus charges brought against him. As was expected, once again the charges were dropped.

Liberty Counsel Sees Progress in Multiple Marriage Defense Cases

-- Still, Staver Urges States to Adopt Constitutional Amendments

By Allie Martin
April 8, 2005

New York's highest court has declined to hear two appeals involving separate same-sex marriage cases. In Hernandez v. Robles, a Manhattan judge struck down the state's marriage laws; however, state marriage laws were upheld in the case of Samuels v. New York State Department of Health.

Abstinence Advocate: Concerned Parents Are Talking With Kids About Sex

By Mary Rettig
April 8, 2005

The president of the Abstinence Clearinghouse says a survey taken by NBC earlier this year saying parents do not talk to their kids about sex is simply not true.

U.S. Golf Assn. Will Now Accept Transgenders in Competition

-- CWA Spokesman Bob Knight 'Stunned' by Policy Change

By James L. Lambert
April 8, 2005

A professional golf association in America has adopted guidelines that open the door for athletes who were once the opposite sex to compete for championships.

Many Believe Bias Tainted Columbia Committees Report on Anti-Semitism

By Ed Thomas
April 8, 2005

A report summarizing investigation of alleged anti-Semitism and intimidation has left students and faculty at New York's Columbia University dissatisfied with the findings.

Ministries Addressing Physical, Spiritual Hunger in South Asia

By Allie Martin
April 8, 2005

Two international ministries are serving in Christ's name in Asia -- one is helping pastors and their families in India and Sri Lanka who were hit hard by December's Asian tsunami, while the other continues to send forth missionaries through its highly effective "native missions" program.

Former Civilian Hostage Shares Lessons From His Time in Iraq

By Rusty Pugh
April 8, 2005

The Mississippi truck driver who was taken hostage in Iraq one year ago says if America does not "stay the course," the next generation of Iraqis will continue the war of terrorism being waged against the West.

Conservatives Gather To Confront Judicial Activism

-- Also, Knight Says Pro-Death Media Misinformed Public In Schiavo Case

By Chad Groening
April 8, 2005

A conservative webmaster joined a group of activists this week to address the problem of activist judges that attempt to advance agendas and influence social policy by legislating from the bench.

Re-Measuring Success

By Brad Locke
April 8, 2005

Measuring excellence requires an awfully long ruler these days. High standards are always good, but now anything short of success' pinnacle is considered a failure. Second place is first loser, it's been said.

FRC Denounces ACLU Assault on School Prayer

April 8, 2005

- 'This assault on religious freedom is yet another example of the ACLU's crusade to eradicate any public recognition of America's spiritual heritage.' Tony Perkins, President, Family Research Council

The Louisiana American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is recommending that officials at a public school in New Orleans be "fined or jailed" for failing to stop prayer before a high school baseball game last month. ACLU of Louisiana executive director Joe Cook says that prayer at a school related function is "un-American and immoral."

Invoking the nuclear option -- there is no other option

David Limbaugh
April 8, 2005

I think Republican Party honchos may be underestimating the grassroots passion over the judiciary. The outrage against activist courts -- and by no means are all of them activist -- is real, growing and far from a fringe phenomenon.

Scouting makes a difference

Rebecca Hagelin
April 8, 2005

The orange flames of the firelight reflected in his glimmering eyes and made his young face glow like a new moon. The other small campers sat around in nervous, rapt attention as the nine-year-old boy told his breathless ghost story. While marshmallows turned black in the campfire and we huddled to stay warm, I thought to myself, “This is the good stuff.”

Gay Marriage and the Deliberate Sense

Paul J. Cella III
Claremont Institute
April 8, 2005

Soon after last fall's election, a number of commentators began to point out the curious fact that, contrary to conventional wisdom, gay marriage may not have helped President Bush win reelection at all. The conventional wisdom had been (from the Right) that moral issues carried the day, with opposition to gay marriage leading the charge; and (from the Left) that bigotry and intolerance carried the day, with "homophobia" leading the charge. There may be something to this conventional wisdom, however one likes to formulate it. It is possible that gay marriage did get Bush re-elected—mostly because the issue was on the ballot in Ohio, the state that swung the election to Bush. The statisticians will have to sort that treacherous question out, if indeed a final sorting-out is possible. But what needs no sorting out, because it is plain as day, is the fact that a very large number of people who voted for Senator John Kerry at the top of the ticket—and, we might reasonably infer, voted for Democrats all the way down the ticket—went on to cast their vote against gay marriage. Consider: Bush lost Oregon with 48% of the vote, but a prohibition on gay marriage passed with 57% of the vote. Another blue state, Michigan, resulted in very similar numbers. In decisive Ohio, Bush won with just over half the vote, and a prohibition on gay marriage won 62%. Similarly, in very red Mississippi and Georgia, Bush won with 60% and 58% of the vote respectively, while gay marriage went down resoundingly (86% and 76%). And in this context let us not forget that other blue states, including California, have already passed prohibitions on gay marriage.

More on Memogate II

By Cliff Kincaid
April 8, 2005

The Washington Post believes it has been vindicated by the revelation that a Republican congressional staffer really did write the controversial Republican memo on the political ramifications of the Terri Schiavo case. But this fact is almost beside the point. The memo was never an official Republican document and there's no evidence that any Republican Senator ever read it. The latest revelation adds to the perception that liberal Democrats play the media like a violin.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:15 PM
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1. Sounds like fun!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:17 PM
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2. Do they not understand the word "underground?"
And why being underground is necessary for some groups?

Christians saying they need to be "underground" just feeds into their already huge victim mentality. They are not victims.

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:20 PM
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5. If only they were.
Victims, that is. Not Underground. Oh, wait...that too. :evilgrin:

I forget who said it: "The problem with our Texas Baptists is that we don't hold them underwater long enough." :)
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:18 PM
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3. Everybody should fuck up their poll
I know I did
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:28 PM
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9. hee hee
next week they'll have a story about how they were "attacked" - those poor, poor persecuted xtians.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:19 PM
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4. Yuckee
nt
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:25 PM
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6. ahh, the Stryper of the online political community n/t
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trebizond Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:26 PM
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7. shouldn't that be 'catacombs.com'?
:shrug:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:27 PM
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8. This is his "work" site: (link posted below)
http://xyz123.org/examples.php

Found it scooter-pooting around the "underground" site

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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:28 PM
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10. Well, who else would be underground?
I dunno, just wondering... SATAN???
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:34 PM
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11. Question for DUers: I will pray when I want, Where I want
School
Work
The Street
The Mall

Persecute me at your own peril...

The above is from the billboard at the bottom of the page. My question, dear fellow DUers, is simple: who the hell is stopping anybody from praying in any of those places? And do these fuckers not realize just how many times the ACLU has gone to court to protect the rights of children to pray in school any time they damn well please?
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:52 PM
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12. no, see
to THEM, these perverters of Christianity, praying is only worth it if EVERYONE hears them, and knows what a "humble" and "righteous" person they are

:sarcasm:
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:03 PM
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14. Bottom line, folks...
As long as there are pop quizzes, there'll be prayer in schools. End of story.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:05 PM
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13. Don't forget to vote in the poll...
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:50 PM
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15. I heard that Jesus Christ Himself registered at that board a while back...
...and they banned Him after one post :(
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:51 PM
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16. Erm, no. The progressive Xians are clearly the underground these days
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