convince me to not go outside and scream at my neighbor

[nini]

who is walking a kid screaming at the top of his lungs because he can't get in the pool.

I can hear this little darling over my TV up in my room on the 2nd floor.. I have my window closed.

This idiot mother doesn't seem to give a freaking damn half the neighbors in my complex have come out in their patio to see if the brat is getting killed or something. It's been going on for over 20 minutes now. $#&$%&*@%

How freaking stupid are you to bring an out of control kid out of your houseto drive everyone else crazy? ALL of us don't need to be subjected to his tantrun. Keep the little snot inside and CONTROL him.

God dammit I hate inconsiderate parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Call the cops

Tell them a child is screaming. They will take care of it. hee hee

[nini]

3. That actually crossed my mind..

I have never heard a kid scream like this..

poor little darling can't get in the pool..

I'll take him to the pool :evilgrin:

[Maat]

2. You'll regret it later!

Besides, this mom remembers when her toddler would throw a big one. It wasn't always possible to get her to the car or house fast. These things usually last less than a half-hour.

Do you or did you have kids? The reason I ask if you are generous with your patience now, the kharma will be helpful later.

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. Any tantrum that lasts more than 5 minutes

needs to be dealt with.

[gollygee]

13. dealt with?

how and why?

I'd take the kid inside, but how and why would a parent "deal with" a tantrum?

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. Good idea to take him inside

I used to ignore my kids when they threw tantrums. That worked for me. As they got older, we talked about how to get angry and keep from being frustrated. That helped too.

I also think there is a lot parents can do to prevent tantrums. If kids learn that a tantrum will get them what they want, they will tantrum. I also often wonder how tired kids are and if that contributes to tantrums, especially the ones that are public like this one. When I worked retail, we often saw tantrums from kids who were up way past their bedtime.

But in this situation, the parent needs to get the kid inside and away from public scrutiny.

[MissMillie]

16. Sometimes tantrums need to be ignored

If the kid thinks s/he is going to get a response, they'll keep throwing the tantrums.

No response at all can be the best solution, long-term.

Just be glad that this is happening during the day.

[Zomby Woof]

7. She was MORE than generous with her patience

No sane human being should endure the screeching of a brat for very long. NO ONE. Enough is enough! Silence the little creep!

Notice she blamed the PARENTS. But it doesn't surprise me people will make hasty conclusions about whether nini is a parent or not.

I can't wait until she answers you, myself. :bounce:

[nini]

11. I've got to give it to the kid that his lungs are healthy

I just heard a big round of "I wanna go to the pool" right outside the patio.

Let nana nini take you to the pool sweetie :D

[nini]

8. I'm a grandmother

and I guarantee you I would have the kid in the house with the door and windows closed, and not walking him through the complex - I'm talking up and down the walkway - no attempt to get him in the house.

I understand screaming kids can decide to pull this stuff at the wrong times. I also understand it takes a parent a bit to rectify the situation but to continue to walk the kid outside for over 20 minutes is ridiculous.

Really scares me that these people just moved in.. OH BOY - I sure hope this happens often. :cry:

[Zomby Woof]

12. Wait 'til I get there!

Bwhahahahahahaaaaaaaaa............. *Silence pervades the area*

:D :loveya: :hug:

[nini]

21. You would be flipping out if you were here.

I've never heard anything like this.. WOW

more reason to keep house hunting :-)


:loveya:


:hug:

[newsguyatl]

4. i'd have been outside 15 minutes ago already

that's just rude and obnoxious... go say something.

[DulceDecorum]

6. Maybe the child is not 'normal'

in which case the mother may have no control at all over any of his actions. A LOT of kids these days are taking medication for one thing or other. In some cases, the med flips and instead of calming the kid, it sets him aflame. They call this a paradoxical reaction. it takes a while before people realize that this is what is happening and in the meantime,
the cops make MANY visits.
So call them.

[Renew Deal]

9. I once said something to a woman on the train.

The kid was by the window yelling Chu chu and all kinds of other train crap. One person got another seat. Others were getting pissed. I said something. The woman says "but he's a child." I told her that her little darling was a disturbance and she has no consideration for the people around her. He looked dumbfounded as him mom shut him up. God forbid "the child" sits down and shuts the fuck up while people ride the train.

[nini]

26. That happened to me on a plane a few months ago

It's ok for a bit - the kids was excited - it was actually cute at first. But an hour later the kid is still screaming at the top of his lungs about the plane and the attendants were even asking the mom to try and calm him down. There's a line there and being a kid dooesn't give them the right to not display a certain behaviour when in public.

I really don't see why some parents don't get this.

[gollygee]

30. What do you expect the parents to do on an airplane

I've been the parent with the tantruming child on an airplane. What do you expect the parent to do? Throw the child off the plane? Gag the child? It isn't always easy to calm a child down mid-tantrum. It isn't always possible.

[Zomby Woof]

32. I think they should be sealed off in their own area

Like a soundproof booth. But I am unorthodox in my opinions of how people should raise their genetic heirs.

[gollygee]

33. Seeing as there isn't a soundproof sealed-off room on an airplane

that isn't possible.

I'd love to have a section just with families, trust me. But that doesn't exist.

[Renew Deal]

34. Put them in the wheel well.

:silly:

[nini]

40. I expect them to attempt to control the child

that's all. That's not asking too much.


The plane incident wasn't a tantrum by the child - it was screaming play. The mom never asked him to hold it down a bit.. that's all anyone around her expected and would have appreciated.. Just some consideration for the rest of us to keep the noise down.

I think asking me if I condone throwing a kid off the plane is a bit much.

[radwriter0555]

10. So lean out and YELL for him to SHUT UP.

Just do it so they can't see you.

[hickman1937]

14. If she punches the kid will you call the police?

A couple of good head shots would probably shut him up. She goes to jail, he's in foster care, and you have blessed peace.

[nini]

19. She's not hitting him..She's just letting him dictate what's going on

He is obviously spoiled.

If she was hitting him.. yes I'd call on her. I don't tolerate abusing children.

[beam me up scottie]

15. Gee. They should take him to a quiet restaurant

or a show. They could be curdling the blood of many more if they really try.
Sometimes I think they follow me through the supermarket.

[nini]

22. LOL

oh I can just see them in a restaurant - expecting everyone else to put up with Jr's tantrums.

:eyes:

[nini]

17. I stepped outside to tell them to take the kid in and my next door ..

..neightbor was ripping them a new one! hahhahhahahahha

They live on the other side of her and she went off about him screaming all the time and it's bad enough she has to hear it when he's in the house but DO NOT bring him outside to disrupt the whole complex.

I was nice and said it was disruptive and to be more considerate especially on the weekend when we're home from work. They never said a word.


LOL

hahah

[peekaloo]

18. Baptize 'em with some dishwater.

Oops, didn't hear y'all down there.

[Ellen Forradalom]

20. Much better

to come start a flame war in the Lounge.

[Zomby Woof]

23. That is not the intent

But... this topic beats the living hell out of "look at me! I'm drunk!" or "look at me! I need approval and validation! I am in junior high!"

Which is why too many of us stay the hell out of the Lounge these days.

[hickman1937]

37. Geeez. this place is starting to sound like GD.

I'm going to bed.

[nini]

42. uh ok.. sleep well

.

[nini]

24. what flamebait?

No flamebait here unless someone thinks it's ok for someone to disrupt the quiet of another's home with a misbehaving child.

IF these people were going into their home and the kid was upset - fine , that wouldn't bother me. But to stay outside for up to 30 minutes with just about everyone coming out to see what the hell the problem was... the problem is not with me.

[samplegirl]

25. I'm having the same kind of day

Its hell to live next to a Repuke!!!

[Zomby Woof]

27. I think...

You should sic that punk rock kitty on them! :D

[nini]

28. HAHAAHA

:hug:

you win.. :D

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[Maat]

35. All right, you guys.

I certainly didn't mean to be disrespectful.

And I have taught my child to behave (she's eight now); but, she was very strong-willed when she was younger. I did get to be an expert at getting to a car or inside, but I do empathize.

And, when I was blessed with my kid - circa age 40 - well, after that, I did have more empathy for those dealing with tantrums. Just sayin.'

[nini]

38. Let me make something clear

I understand the difference between normal kid outburts and the kind that signal the kid is in charge - not the parent.

I sympathize with parents in public when the kids decide to test them. I NEVER shoot them an evil eye etc.. If anything I smile acknowledging their frustration.

It's the parents who don't take control that bother me or can't see that others may not be as used to listening to junior as they are. If the kid was brought in the house instead of out the patio and through the complex I wouldn't have said anything. It's when parents are incosiderate of others and who think a disciplined child can't be a happy child that I have to object. They then allow their situation to become mine and that's not right.

[Maat]

48. You're right. Point well-taken.

With us, we were blessed with my daughter when she was 2 (she was placed with us then). She was strong-willed, and that's what saved her life (she hid under a bed, crying, until help came - long story).

However ... we did spend some time getting through a rather healthy tantruming stage. Like I said, we became experts at picking her up and transporting to a place in which she could just tantrum-out. Lucky for me, they had built a staircase down to my laundry room, and it was in the middle of solid rock (surrounded by it) - so neighbors would not be disturbed. We fixed it up so that it was comfortable and safe. We would just put her down there, on the landing, with cushioned walls, and just tell her that behavior was unacceptable ... then we'd give her a hug and kiss when she stopped. I'm proud of her today; she has the best temper-control now around. But boy did it take work! So, I try not to be judgmental.

Take care!

[nini]

51. You are the kind of parent I wished all were

I know most parents are good parents, but it's becoming too common for some to lose control. It's the toughest job one can ever take on, but they must do the things YOU did if they want their kids to be able to make it in the world when they get older.

Your daughter is very lucky you came into her life and you had the love, sense and strength to help her.

:hug: for understanding what I was trying to say and being a good mom to a kid that needed you.

[Maat]

58. You'll cool, Nini. Thanks.

And I do agree that we have to teach them; it does disappoint me when I see a parent with a kid tantruming - and I know that they AREN'T trying anything.

Have a great evening!

[nini]

36. well, my BR is on the 2nd floor.. it's a tri-level

but I like your idea. :evilgrin:

[Southsideirish]

39. Tom Ripley tripped an obnoxious 5 year old running up and down the aisle

on his plane in "The Boy Who Followed Tom Ripley". One of the great ones.

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. I tell kids to stop running in stores all the time

and it works! I try to say it so they don't know who is talking to them. They stop, turn around and look kinda freaked out. I have told a few kids 'your mom is looking all over for you and she looks mad'. hee hee

[nini]

46. I'm going to have to remember the 'mom is looking for you' line

with the 'she looks mad' part..HAHAH

Isn't funny how kids will stop that behavior when you tell them to slow down or whatever? Why can't their parents achieve the same?

:shrug:

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. Your voice is different than mom's

It gets their attention. They have been tuning out their parents for years. I use my teacher voice and it works every time. One time a mom heard me tell her kid to stop running in a store. She laughed and said 'you must be a teacher. Can I rent you to go shopping with us?' :)

I told her I was far too expensive.

[JanMichael]

43. Awwww the little precious darling!!!

The pitter patter of little screams over the TV!

I am so jealous!

Are you going to make the Grand Canyon in June? I need to send a PM and get some solid plans going-

Stephanie

[nini]

45. hopefully

I've got two weekends booked in June already.

Somebody's birthday is in June :D and I'd like to take him to Vegas to see George Carlin.

Let him know.. I remember I promised you a picture at the Grand Canyon for your boss LOL

[JanMichael]

50. OK, we are going to be there there right after the first weekend in June

I will get the dates and PM you, Zomby, NSMA, and Misunderestimator tomorrow!

We are really looking forward to this; it won't be as much fun if you aren't there!

I think Brainshrub mentioned something about coming out from NC too---we need to call him-

A Grand Canyon DU meetup! How cool is that?

Steph

[Zomby Woof]

52. Best setting ever for one!

I surely will try and get us there!

[JanMichael]

54. Very cool! I saw your other post, and thought you

were trying to move out of the way!

Damn, with ya'll and NSMA/Misunderestimator out there.....California sounds like a fun DU time too!

[Zomby Woof]

55. I think sometime...

An LA/Southern CA gathering is in order. Show them yanks in Boston how it's done.

[JanMichael]

57. No doubt!

Damned yan...

OK, I am heading for bed before I write something else that gets poor Michael in trouble!

:)

[shesemsmom]

49. Before I'd call the cops

though that would be next I would open the window and say.... *Excuse me , but do you mind to keep it down, I can not hear the TV for YOU Thanks for being conciderate* Then if that doesn't work call the land lord and the cops

[HamstersFromHell]

53. We found one way to deal with neighbors from hell in rental units.

Three of us once shared a townhouse with "neighbors from hell", people who would pound the walls if a fly farted on our side of the unit after 9pm any night of the week, but they had no qualms about having mom over at 8am Sunday morning to open the doors and sit around the kitchen table singing gospel at the top of thier lungs.

A friend came over on a Saturday night once and got to hear their pounding first hand when we came home from clubbing, and got an earful of gospel the next morning to wake him up from sleeping on the couch into a very hungover state of anger.

Now our friend was a pretty big guy, roughly 6' 5" and a solid 250 or so. He left around noon telling us he had an errand to run and he'd be back later.

He shows up about an hour later with a small U-Haul truck, backs it right up to the neighbor's back door and knocks on it. When the man of the house answered, our friend told him simply: "Hi, you're moving. I got you a truck so you can pack and leave now, and if you need any help getting loaded up, give us a yell next door."

Of course he didn't take the offer, but damned if he didn't move out within two weeks. I guess big imtimidating looking folks with moving trucks can alter your perception of a situation. :)

Friend to this day still says it was the best $19.95 (plus mileage) he ever spent.

[nini]

56. hehe

I own this place so moving is a pain.

but, I love your friends idea. I bet the look on their faces was priceless.. ha