"I'll Go Tally The Votes"

[CO Liberal]

That line drive me CRAZY each week during "Survivor".

Jeff Probst does NOT go "tally the votes". He he goes and GETS the votes - he tallies them right in front of the contestants.

Right????

[CO Liberal]

1. Any Takers?

:shrug:

[ltfranklin]

2. Yet another argument...

...for election reform!

[elehhhhna]

3. He SORTS the votes so 2 peeps are even 'til the last one's opened,

silly.

[CO Liberal]

4. Or a Staffer Pre-Sorts Them...

...before Jeff picks up the container. Remember, all the contestants show their votes to the camera - they're just not all shown until they roll the credits.

[underpants]

5. Right exactly-he doesn't say that he is just going to get them

He says "Tally" which means he looks at them (producer too probably) and they organize them for the most dramatic effect.

[LynneSin]

6. Have you ever noticed that when Jeff gives an update on the vote...

...it's very very rarely focused on him. That's because he does not read the votes in the order that he pulls them out. They need to drive some suspense on it. So when he says "3 votes John, 2 Votes Jane" the camera will be showing reaction shots from the contestants in tribal council.

[Brotherjohn]

7. I just haven't been able to watch Survivor since Hurricane Ivan...

I LIVED it! It just kinda lost it's appeal after weeks without electricity, food, gas, and clean water (and tons of debris everywhere).

At least there's still The Amazing Race!

[Squatch]

8. I see no problem with that...

he does in fact retrieve and tally the votes.

[CO Liberal]

9. No...

...he retrieves the votes. And tallies them in front of the contestants.

It would be more correct for him to say, "I'll go get the votes."

[Squatch]

10. Yes...

He retrieves the votes and tallies them.

Nothing like splitting hairs, eh?

[CO Liberal]

11. I'm a Technical Writer

I've made a career of splitting hairs and making sure that what I write can only be taken one way.

Yes, he retrieves the votes. But he does not tally them until he is in front of the contestants. So it's incorrect for him to say that he'll go and tally them, because the tallying is not being done in a place he has to "go" to.

See??

[Squatch]

12. Oh, for brevity's sake!

How far do you want to differentiate his actions?

"I am now going to walk over to where the votes were cast."
"I am now going to pick up the urn."
"I am now going to return to the spot where I first announced my intentions."
"I am now going to open the urn"
"I am now going to tally the votes"

-or-

"I am now going to tally the votes"

...which includes the implied actions of walking over to the spot where the votes were cast, picking up the urn, returning to the original spot, and opening the urn.

So, I will have to reaffirm that I find his statement more than adequate to both convey his meaning and justify his resultant actions necessary to complete the task of "tallying the votes."

[LynneSin]

13. It's a game show - they all have their catch phrases

:eyes:

[CO Liberal]

14. But It's Incorrect

If he said "I'll go get the votes", that would be an accurate portrayal of what he's doing.

ON EDIT: And to satisfy Squatch's quest for brevity, it's shorter than the inaccurate "I'll go tally the votes".

[Squatch]

15. No, it's not incorrect. It's more than apt.

[Bunny]

16. But I think he actually DOES tally the votes before he gets

back in front of the contestants. I think they're inspected, counted, and put in a suspenseful order, before he returns to the Council.

And this is from someone who has never watched an entire episode of Survivor.

[Squatch]

18. Regardless of whether he's getting or tallying votes...

who wouldn't want his job?!?

[Phentex]

45. I agree with this. There's no way the order is random....

I think he tallies them and puts them in the order he wants to read them.

[CO Liberal]

47. Personally....

...I think someone else does that, and Jeff just picks to container up and brings it back to the tribal Council. Remember, they're not alone on that island - there's a whole crew there with them.

[Phentex]

50. He's so controlling. I think he does it himself.

[LiberallyInclined]

19. how about if he says "LET'S tally the votes"?

would that un-chap your hide?

[CO Liberal]

20. It Would Be More Accurate

It's like that scene in "The Wizard of Oz" where Dorothy pours water on the witch and she disappears into a puddle saying "I'm melting". Technically, melting required the application of heat - since water was involved, she should REALLY be saying "I'm dissolving".

:-)

[Squatch]

21. The dictionary disagrees

melt ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mlt)
v. melt·ed, melt·ing, melts
v. intr.

To be changed from a solid to a liquid state especially by the application of heat.

To dissolve: Sugar melts in water.

To disappear or vanish gradually as if by dissolving: The crowd melted away after the rally.

To pass or merge imperceptibly into something else: Sea melted into sky along the horizon.

To become softened in feeling: Our hearts melted at the child's tears.

[CO Liberal]

22. Do You Intend to Disagree With EVERYTHING I Post Today???

:shrug:

[Squatch]

23. I would agree with you if you posted something that is accurate.

Isn't that how it works?

[the Princess]

25. Yep it is

I like a good disagreement myself.

[CO Liberal]

31. OK, Squatch

From www.dictionary.com:

tally

1. To reckon or count.

2. To record by making a mark.

3. Sports & Games. To score (a point or goal) in a game or contest.

4. To label, as with a ticket, for identification or classification.

5. To cause to correspond or agree.

get

1.

a. To come into possession or use of; receive: got a cat for her birthday.

b. To meet with or incur: got nothing but trouble for her efforts.

2.

a. To go after and obtain: got a book at the library; got breakfast in town.

b. To go after and bring: Get me a pillow.

c. To purchase; buy: get groceries.


3.

a. To acquire as a result of action or effort: He got his information from the Internet. You can't get water out of a stone.

b. To earn: got high marks in math.

c. To accomplish or attain as a result of military action.

* * * * *

So ... which is a more accurate description of Jeff Probst's actions - does he "tally" the votes, or does he "get" them? I say he gets them.

[Squatch]

34. The most accurate description of Jeff Probst's actions is

he makes a boatload of money wearing cool safari clothes while tallying votes in exotic locales.

[CO Liberal]

36. I Disagree

While he may be tallying the votes in exotic locations, he does not tally them away from the contestants, which would be implied by the verg "go". What he does away from the contestants is fetch ir retrieve the votes, which are tallied in their presense.

And THAT is the most accurate description of Jeff Probst's actions, IMHO.

[Squatch]

38. Ho-kay...

:eyes:

[LynneSin]

28. It's a game show - do you know the collective IQ of everyone watching it?

:shrug:

[CO Liberal]

37. Higher Than the Collective IQ In The White House

:-)

[the Princess]

17. Technical Writer...............

Sheesh :eyes:

[CO Liberal]

24. I Though You'd Be Used To It By Now, Honey!!!

:-)

A sure sign I'm feeling better.

[the Princess]

26. I'm happy today

and there is no one here to play with!! (pout)

[Squatch]

27. Have you taken your chill pill yet?

I find that they help "put the day in its place", if you know what I mean.

[the Princess]

33. NO!

I wanna be happy and hyper!! LOL

[CO Liberal]

32. I'll be Home Later

:-)

[lpbk2713]

29. I think he should be reported to the language and syntax police.

Somebody oughtta do something about this before it's too late. This could really get out of control.


:eyes:

[Beware the Beast Man]

30. Am I groggy from lack of sleep,

or have I just stepped into the lamest flame war ever in the history of DU?

[asthmaticeog]

35. Flame war?

More like a spent match-head. Yeeesh.

[progmom]

54. you may be groggy

but this is definitely lame.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

39. Wow - running low on things to have flamewars over?

Oy!

[CO Liberal]

40. I Wasn't Flaming Anyone

I was simply making an observation, and some people chose no to agree with me.

Nothing to see here....move on....

[the Princess]

41. flame war?

You're the only one who mentioned that.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

42. Actually, if you look up you'll see that that's not true

[Squatch]

43. I wasn't going to say anything...

LOL

[the Princess]

44. This is so ridiculous

flame war??? LOL

[CO Liberal]

46. Yes, It IS Ridiculous....

...the way some people like to pick-pick-pick until things escalate into flames.

[Squatch]

48. Or, the way some people just won't let a thread die, even

after it's fallen to the third page.

LOL

[Name removed]

51. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Squatch]

52. Hey, you keep dragging this dead horse back to the surface.

Not I.

[CO Liberal]

53. I'm Responding to replies on my "My Posts" Page

YOU'RE the one who's beating the dead horse.

[Squatch]

56. Ah...I see...

so that's why, after nearly an hour and not recieving any responses to your initial question, you had to drag it back up with "Any Takers?"

Failing that, and after a good disagreement (IMO), AND after it was apparent that this thread had run its course, you once again draaaaaag it back up, UNTIL somebody finally agrees with you.

Now that you've been vindicated (sic), shall we let this thoroughly trodden steed rest in horsie heaven?

[CO Liberal]

57. I Did Nothing Of The Sort!!!

I admit that I posted the first reply because things tend to fall quickly when they're posted first thing in the morning, but I categorically deny "draaaaaaaaging" anything back up.

I await your apology.

[Squatch]

58. Yeah...right.

LOL

I watched this asinine thread drop back 3 pages before it was resurrected from its peaceful slumber so that the DU Lounge community could once again ponder the application of the word "tally".

:woohoo:

[Mixxster]

49. "Right????"

YES, you're right. It annoys me, too, and I've wondered why no one else ever remarks on it. I only watched the first season of Survivor but it bugged me from the first episode and when I've surfed upon episodes since then it still annoys me.

[CO Liberal]

55. FINALLY!!!!!!

Thanks!!!

:-)