Yavin4
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Sat Apr-30-05 03:57 PM
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Why Are Liberal Cities So Expensive To Live |
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If you list the most Liberal places to live, you'll also list the most expensive places to live:
SF Boston NY Chicago Atlanta Madison Denver Boulder Philadelphia
Why are Liberal cities so expensive, but Conservative areas are dirt cheap:
Mobile Jacksonville, FL Macon, GA Baton Rouge, LA Columbia, SC Tempe, AZ
Can someone explain this?
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Sat Apr-30-05 03:58 PM
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1. Jeez. Never noticed that before. Does it have anything to do with local |
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Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 03:59 PM by GreenPartyVoter
taxes or something? Perhaps the liberal cities take more money from residents in some form but give it back in more services?
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:05 PM
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10. It's kind of a pattern. |
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Certain cities may take time to really develop. When they do, and the businesses come in followed by those seeking work or oppurtunity. The city starts building up and requirements for public services goes up with it. The stuff has to be paid for somehow so property taxes go up along with rents and housing values. Then of course everyone starts complaining about the taxes and they start leaving.
If your talking about cost of living stuff ex. food/fuel, I can tell you this. I used to live in Boston and I still think it's an awesome city. But things need to shipped in and that cost is affected by fuel prices plus any number of other factors.
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Sat Apr-30-05 03:59 PM
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2. Denver and Atlanta are Liberal!! n/t |
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:01 PM
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4. Atlanta Is The Most Liberal City In The South |
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And Denver always goes blue in state and national elections. I think both have Dem mayors. It's the surrounding areas that are conservative. If only Denver got to vote, Dems would win every time.
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:57 PM
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14. Same as Nashville. Its a Blue oasis in a sea of Red.... |
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:00 PM
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Everyone wants to live in liberal cities, and no one wants to live in cornservative ones perhaps?
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:01 PM
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5. Red State Welfare and pork subsidizes them....... |
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yeah we pay in more than we get out, and them, it's vice versa.
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:04 PM
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7. Exactly-red state welfare |
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we get about 60 cents of every dollar back in Mass. We get to fund faith-based initiatives while our state has to raise property taxes to meet shortfalls. :eyes:
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:02 PM
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6. San Diego is Red and its expensive here. |
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Although I do see the "Blue Tide" coming in.
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:04 PM
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8. More educated people live there... |
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Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 04:05 PM by tjdee
Cities tend to be artistic/cultural/educational/financial centers, which attract liberals (or are that way *because* of liberals)?
People tend to be attracted to artistic/cultural/educational/financial exploits--more people, not enough room.
I was going to say something about being more educated, living in a city, and being wealthy...can't remember though.
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Sat Apr-30-05 05:54 PM
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20. I love san diego despite it's "redness" |
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I always managed to find "blue" goings on there. :P
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:05 PM
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That this is one of the big problems facing Liberals when it comes to voting. Because Liberal areas are soo expensive, they don't attract working class families. Hence, the numbers work against us when it comes to voting.
For instance, a working class family of four that's really concerned about economic issues and strongly identifies with Dems probably won't live in a Dem city like S.F. where they could build big numbers and swing elections. That family will probably live in a red area and be swallowed up by families that are more concerned about "social issues".
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:09 PM
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11. Tempe, AZ is a college town and fairly progressive. |
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It's next door neighbor, Mesa, is less expensive and a sea of red. W stickers everywhere on those huge pickups and Suburbans aka "Mormon Cadillacs."
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:56 PM
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13. ya get what ya pay for |
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Sat Apr-30-05 04:57 PM
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15. Because liberal cities actually provide lots of services |
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Sat Apr-30-05 05:35 PM
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16. Because they're bigger. |
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Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 05:36 PM by Placebo
Larger population + the same amount of land as those other cities = $$$
And also because people know they can charge more in say NYC or Chicago simply because....it's NYC or Chicago! These are places people want to be in, so if there's more of a demand for something, there goes the price.
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Sat Apr-30-05 05:47 PM
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18. Washington, Despite being infected by repugs, is a liberal town |
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Amazing, but true.
There are lots of progessivity happening there.
BTW, it ain't cheap either. So it goes with your theory
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Sat Apr-30-05 05:50 PM
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19. Denver is not expensive |
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and Boulder seems cheap in comparison to Boston. I've lived in all three places. Denver is a deal.
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Sat Apr-30-05 06:17 PM
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I recall watching Mork and Mindy as a kid, and I kind of wanted to live in Boulder.
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Sat Apr-30-05 06:27 PM
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22. Higher "quality of life" makes the cities more desirable |
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Liberal cities spend more on parks, on restoring heritage, etc, and pass more laws preventing big companies from polluting and destroying the environment. Thus, there is a higher quality of life, and more people want to move there. Problem is, once the conservatives move in, they try to change everything, and the city goes down. That's happening to Austin, now. Conservatives love the city, but want to kill the goose and get all the golden eggs at once by turning it into a conservative city and doing away with the laws and the spending that created it into the city they were first attracted to.
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Sat Apr-30-05 09:00 PM
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23. You've Got A Great Point There |
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Liberals tend to take care of their cities and make them into wonderful living spaces.
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Sat Apr-30-05 09:09 PM
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24. Detroit is pretty liberal...and the city itself is not so expensive. |
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