Hawkeye-X
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:42 PM
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Drug tests and evaluation |
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I am scheduled to take a drug evaluation next week, and I am a regular pot smoker, as you probably know by now. I've been clean for the past 48 hours, and I am just worried about being able to pass this thing.
According to some documentations that I've read, I have to increase my metabolism heavily (up to 2,000%) to get rid of the metabolites that lingers in my body. I plan to do a lot of work this week outside on a hot day. That should increase my metabolism, but would like to hear more suggestions on how to increase metabolism as well.
I know there are many folks here in DU that smokes pot regularly. I would like to know your methods to ensure that I pass the drug test without any problems.
After the evaluation is done, I have to submit to random drug testing, and of course, if I quit pot altogether for awhile, I can pass it with no problems.
Let me know what your suggestions are.
Thanks!
Hawkeye-X
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:45 PM
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1. stay clean for a few days before |
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and don't sweat it.
I've had blood drawn for drug tests when my eyelids were at half-mast over ruby-red eyeballs, and they came up negative. The tests are crap, blood and urine. If you're clean for 4 or 5 days before, and drink lots of fluids in that time, and test positive, act indignant and demand a retest. In my experience, odds are it'll come out different.
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:45 PM
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2. a friend fo mine tested positive for weed |
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after not smoking it for 23 days. Maybe, people here have some experience with the products sold in some health stores to detoxify for urine tests. I know of people who swear they work.
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bobja
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:00 PM
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9. Be careful of those clean-up products |
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They may work OK, but most labs nowadays look for that and will red flag you for the goldenseal, etc in them and fail your test as surely as if it was THC.
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:17 PM
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12. that explains why the company I worked for |
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asked you to list any herbal suplements you had been taking. They also asked if you had been eating certain foods such as poppy seeds before administering the test. I understood the food questions, but not the suplement question--thanks.
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:20 PM
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test + for opiates b/c of poppy-seed bagels & muffins---seriously!
The whole week prior to the test, our work had provided us with bagels and muffins for brekkie---and she had eaten alot of poppyseed bagels & muffins apparently---
test came up POS for opiates.
She told them before hand that she had eaten things with poppyseeds. Apparently they didn't beleive her (about the seeds) and she appealed and was able to get a blood-test done showing that no opiates (besides trace amounts from the seeds) were in her system.
Those tests can be very very very sensitive
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Mon Jul-07-03 03:45 PM
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20. Was your friend overweight? |
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THC tends to gather in fat cells. The more body fat, more of a chance of a positive result.
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Mon Jul-07-03 03:53 PM
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23. Studies have found an interesting phenomenon with people who |
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smoke regularly and alo exercise frequently. Apparently THC does not stay in your system long at all if you smoke a lot and exercise a lot.
That has been my experience. I smoke daily, but also do a lot of distance running. I have never failed a drug test and have taken many. It probably has something to do with the absorbtion into fatty tissue.
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:48 PM
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3. Exercise, exercise, exercise |
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Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 01:49 PM by GumboYaYa
and keep hydrated. There is no reason to try to flush your body until right before the test. You will not wash all the thc out of your system, but you can dilute it so much that it does not show in the test.
The morning of the test, drink lots of water with some juice thrown in to keep some minerals in your urine. If all you pee is water, the tester will know something is wrong.
<on Edit> I tested negative once and was stoned during the test.
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:50 PM
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But even when I was, I never failed a drug test.
Pot can take up to a month to leave your body, much longer than other drugs.
The worst thing to do is to try to detox by using Goldenseal, etc. just prior to a test. It'll only make things worse.
I've used masking products on 3 occasions. I've never turned up positive. Then again, I can't be sure that they were even testing for pot or cared.
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Mon Jul-07-03 03:49 PM
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21. I,ve only failed one. |
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And I used an herbal supplement called "Stat". I hade great success with it in the past(passed 6 tests), but for some reason this one came up positive. I probably should have contested the results.
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:52 PM
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It depends on the thresholds set. Some employerers will set the thresholds at a high level (no pun intended) so it take much more THC metabolites in the urine to count as positive. Otheres will set the threshold much lower so a small amount will trigger a positive. It depends on how stringent the people making you do the test want the test to be. If they are doing it because of some sort of outside requirement they nmay set the levels high to minimize the likelyhood of failure, but if they thinki it is their business to pry into their employees private lives they may have the thresholds set lower.
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:56 PM
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You don't say what kind of test you'll have, but you can find places online to sell you guaranteed clean urine, if that's what they will test. I think they ship to most states.
The longer your cleanup time, the better for you. Delay it if you can - call in sick or something. Even a day can help. And it all depends on how much and how often you smoke.
I've smoked daily for years, but quit over 4 months ago for a possible drug test for a possible new job. No tests yet, though, dammit!
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:00 PM
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8. and on a similar note, |
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if you have a friend or family member OF THE SAME GENDER THAT YOU KNOW TO BE CLEAN, get some of theirs. You can buy fancy contraptions to keep it hidden and room temperature until the test. Some kits even have a fake dick in case you have to have an observed test. If it's not observed, a tied-off condom will work, tucked into the armpit or, um, "kiestered."
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Mon Jul-07-03 04:16 PM
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28. If you've ever been tested, you know that there is NO WAY |
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to substitute your urine with someone else's. I had to be tested for a contract I was about to start. They take the temp of the urine for crissake! Even if you had a sack tied to your leg, it would be impossible to cheat.
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Mon Jul-07-03 01:59 PM
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7. was JUST discussing this very subject today....here's a link for ya....... |
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....as a friend is being made to take a hair follicle test to get custody of her children....I found this site where you can get all kinds of information and purchase your own tests to check yourself before you go take a test and lots of detox products too....
www.howtopassadrugtest.com
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:04 PM
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10. Or you can go this route |
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:14 PM
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go to GNC and get their detox tea--it's like $19 for a box...
You brew the tea really strong, and you make 2 gallons of it.
YOU MUST KNOW WHAT TIME YOUR PEE TEST IS GOING TO BE.
You have to drink the 2 gallons of tea up to the point of your exam. It's alot of fluids, but that's good because it forces you to pee out alllllllll traces of THC.
You're going to pee--alot. And when you pee for your test, it's going to look like you got it from the tap it's so clear.
But it WORKS!!!
I've taken about 20 piss tests in my life--the majority of them from when I went retarded for a year and thought I wanted to go into the Coast Guard. The Military uses VERY nit-picky urine tests, and I didn't fail a one. Also, had to take numerous piss tests for jobs, and always passed.
I've heard that drinking the same amount of water will do the same thing (the tea company just looking to make an easy $19 bucks), but I've never tested that so I can't say.
It's $19---do it! It WORKSSS!!
PM me if you need any more info.
Heddi Fellow Mod FEllow Smoker :)
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:18 PM
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13. Also, on another note |
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someone mentioned exercise and being hydrated.
THC is stored in adipose tissue (fat), so techincally, the more fat you have on your body, the longer it's going to take for the THC to leave your body.
Of course, if you're an every-day smoker it's going to take alot to leave your body as well.
Luckily for me, I'm fat AND I smoke every day. That shit's probably in my bones :)
Drink lots of water---LOTS of water in the days before your test. Not only will it prepare you if you decide to take the tea, but it will expedite the removal of toxins from your body.
WHATEVER YOU DO!!! DO NOT give your first pee of the day to the tester. Morning Pee is much more concentrated with toxins and stuff like that. That's what makes the tea so great--it really really really dilutes the urine so that nothing shows up. The tea contains minerals and such that will show up in your urine (where as drinking 2 gallons of plain water, I believe, will just show NOTHING in the urinalysis)....
Good luck!
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:50 PM
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my daughter used that GNC product and said she got so sick she thought she was going to die.....she passed her test but I think that by the time she took it she really didn't care any more.
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Mon Jul-07-03 04:11 PM
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26. was it the tea? THey have pills as well |
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which I've never taken b/c I don't trust that some pill is going to magically change my urine.....
I've taken the tea MANY times and never had a problem (except the incessant urge to pee every 2 minutes).
If it was the tea, perhaps she was allergic to an herb or something in the tea itself.
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:20 PM
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Shitloads of water.... You may also want take some niacin. (pick it up at any health/drug/food store). I'll warn you now, it will make you flush and itch and make you want to lay down on the couch naked (have a sheet with you if your couch isn't leather). Take a small amount and increase the dosage a little every day. (your body will get used to it after the first couple doses.
You also will want to piss a couple hours before you go, and when you do piss in the cup, catch it mid stream. (Basically, DO NOT start pissing directly into the cup. Start and then catch it in the cup when your about halfway done.
I've heard about the whole "put bleach on your finger", let it dry, then when you are done in the cup, just kind of swirl your finger around in it. (It's just urine)... I'm not sure about that one, more than likely it would show up as a "contaminated" sample and be inconclusive, so you may end up going back.
Drinking lots of water will show up as "dilluted" or some crap like that but there's nothing they can do about that....
You don't want to know how I know about all this.. :)
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:31 PM
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16. will there be a "meat gazer" present while you're filling the cup? |
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If not, I would advise using . It is a little pricey, but well worth the investment. Unfortunately, it sounds like you may be monitored rather closely if they are going to administer randoms. But I'm 3 for 3 using this product, and would recommend it to anyone who is a chronic user, and is concerned for any upcoming screens.
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Mon Jul-07-03 02:50 PM
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18. how much do you weigh? |
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as i understand, the thc is fat soluable so the more/larger fat cells you are carrying the longer it takes to clear your system. also, if you drink too much water the day of your test, your urine will be dilute and trigger the suspicion alarm.
good luck..
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Mon Jul-07-03 03:40 PM
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19. I've been wondering this myself |
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I have read up on it and probably dilution with added minerals and protein (so it does not seem to diluted) is best. By abstaining for several days before hand (since you have that chance), you should have a good chance of passing this way as long as the threshold isn't ridiculously low. One website suggested asprin as a masking agent but the people that took enough to pass reported some nasty side effects. I've seen detox drinks advertised in high times. I haven't had experience with them though. Good luck.
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Mon Jul-07-03 03:52 PM
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22. You have only two realistic choices |
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1) Get some clean pee - Keep it warm. The receptacle they give you will probably have a thermometer built right into it to make sure the pee is from your body. Run some hot water into the receptacle if you're alone before you dump the pee into it.
2) Drink a LOT of water - Those herbal concoctions don't do anything. The trick is that they make you drink gallons of it, and that dilutes the THC in your pee. Save yourself some money, and drink lots and lots of water.
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Mon Jul-07-03 04:02 PM
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24. I had an amputation injury to my hand(industrial accident) and... |
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the first thing that was done for me, before any treatment, I was forced to give a urine specimen with a male nurse standing in the rest room watching me. My fingers were wrapped in a rag in my good hand. I was holding a bloody stumped hand ,wrapped in shop rags(thats all they had on the job because the first aid station was closed),in pain, and shock and dripping blood all over. After I struggled to get the sample, THEN they began treatment.
The nurse who was present in the restroom was apologetic, and sickened by the routine procedure.
At that time I was not smoking weed, hadnt for 6 years. Had the test turned out positive my medical coverage for the accident would not have been covered and I would not had been able to take recourse.
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Mon Jul-07-03 04:05 PM
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25. Exercise and drink water like mad |
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I smoke occasionally, but Ive smoked 2 days before a test and come up clean before. All i can attribute it to is the fact I exercise regulary and drink at least a gallon of water a day.
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Mon Jul-07-03 04:15 PM
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27. Do you have a low Body-Fat % |
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THC is stored in adipose (fat) cells.
The less fat you have, the smaller the amt. of THC will be in your body.
Even if you're skinny, if you have a high body fat% and you're a frequent smoker, you'll have the same amt of THC in your adipose tissue as someone who is 250lbs and smokes every day.
Exercising is great because the THC can be released in your sweat.
Drinking water is great to dilute the urine for the test, but it really does nothing to 'remove' THC from your body---your body is already doing that through urination, cellular respiration, and things like that. The water just dilutes the urine content so that the THC doesn't show up as easily.
Also, sometimes drinking water isn't the answer for people who have water-retention issues, because the water they drink won't come out in urine (therefore bringing the THC with it), but rather will get 'holed up' inside the body, possibly worsening the situation
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