Remind me not to walk on Clint Eastwood's lawn.

[Swede]

:scared:

[guitar man]

1. no kidding

from the previews, it looks like he's playing a character based on my Dad. :scared:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Clint Eastwood plays a bitter old racist.

What a stretch.

[Shell Beau]

5. What has he done that is racist?

I really don't know. I am not being sarcastic.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Several Dirty Harry films come to mind.

[Shakespeare]

8. Roles don't define who a person is.

Eastwood has also directed/produced such films as Bird and Letters from Iwo Jima; not exactly something a racist would put such an investment into.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. That's highly debatable.

[Shakespeare]

14. Not really.

And to suggest that a role defines a person is to dip a toe into an ocean of silliness, which is something I don't usually see you do. To flippantly suggest that his Dirty Harry films make him a racist is downright silly, especially without further evidence.

Last I checked, Tom Hanks was not an astronaut, assassin, AIDS patient or mentally retarded, either.

If you have any evidence at all that Eastwood is a racist, I'd love to see it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. lulz.

Your argument that he's not a racist because he's made non-racist films is also downright silly.

[Ava]

as silly as your argument that he's racist because he's been in racist films?

:shrug:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. The poster asked me for something racist that Eastwood's done.

The Dirty Harry films were notably racist. And rather homophobic.

[Ava]

19. so you believe that eastwood is racist and homophobic?

why?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. Yup.

Well, there's is support for Ron Paul, John McCain, and Sarah Palin to take into consideration.

[CreekDog]

31. Eastwood's the one that got an Oscar for making a Western film with NO heroes

one that in revisionist style, cast things that had been told before in a highly critical light.

and in this latest movie, he stars as a man who only finds redemption in

1) seeing his neighbors as human beings rather than racial stereotypes

2) finding the meaning of a father-son relationship from a stranger of another race rather than from his own sons

3) understanding the damage his familiar violent ways of solving problems wrought

4) sacrificing everything in a non violent way for a greater good

Are you sure this is just about a guy that likes to be racist? :eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. Eastwood's an overrated hack.

He's like Swartzenegger. The only thing Arnold can play is an emotionless robot. And the only thing Eastwood can play is an angry cowboy. Why they keep giving him Oscars is beyond me. Might as well make him Governor.

"Eastwood's the one that got an Oscar for making a Western film with NO heroes one that in revisionist style,cast things that had been told before in a highly critical light."

You're talking about Unforgiven? Eastwood included some historical accuracy that no Westerns had bothered with before. And we found out why because it's as boring as hell. Then he included the standard Hollywood cliches: the black guy that gets killed, the goofy newbie, the cartoonish villain, and then abandons historical accuracy for a classic Hollywood shoot-out, contradicting everything he set up before hand.

Clint Eastwood is the Toby Keith of Hollywood movies.

[CreekDog]

34. Okay you are dead to me now

blasphemer! :spank:

[Shakespeare]

18. No, it shows a time and financial committment to movies that otherwise wouldn't be made.

And that's especially true in the case of Letters from Iwo Jima. The nutters on the right were incensed that he made that film; Eastwood has talked at length in interviews about WHY he made that film, and why it's important to know both sides of the history regarding that part of WWII.

As I said in my previous post, if you have any evidence at all that Eastwood is a racist, please post it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. D. W. Griffith made plenty of financial commitments to films that weren't racist.

Therefore, I argue your logic is flawed.

[Shakespeare]

28. But you just said we're using the same logic.

So wouldn't that make yours flawed, too?

No evidence? Thought not.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I'll Put My Two Cents In Here For What It's Worth

Eastwood is a racist in the film who redeems himself by coming to the aid of his Hmong neighbors who are being terrorized by a local gang.


I can't wait to see the movie.

[driver8]

20. You made the statement implying that he is a racist, but you

haven't provided any proof other than movie roles that he has done.

Yet, you criticize someone for using the same logic??

[Shell Beau]

36. Those were roles he played. Not who he is.

Not liking him is one thing (although he is great), but calling him a racist I am guessing because he is a republican is wrong. I would like instances in where he, CLint Eastwood, was racist.

[driver8]

6. That's a fucked up comment...

got any facts to back that up?

[Lethe]

12. what roles has he been a racist in?

or in real life?

bs

[Liberal_in_LA]

40. Dirty Harry movie scene: He's holding a gun on the black man. black man "I gots to know" in respons

to Eastwood playing russion roulette on the guys head. White movie audience roars. Black audience, not so much laughter.

[MrSlayer]

48. Dude, that was 38 years ago.

You can't apply the the acceptability of stereotypes of today to things that happened a generation ago. 1971 was a much different time. C'mon the "Do you feel lucky?" scene is an all-timer.

[JVS]

41. Seriously. When I saw the trailer I though "What the hell is this film going to be called...

'Get Off my Lawn You {series of racial epithets}'?"

[Bake]

3. That's right up there with tugging on Superman's cape.

Bake

[SidneyCarton]

4. Dirty Harry as an old retiree...

nuff said.

[EastTennesseeDem]

10. Sorry!

Really. Sorry.

[Swede]

11. I hope you are joking.

Posting surprise spoilers is low. I am not kidding.

[CreekDog]

35. This is why you avoid stuff about a movie you haven't seen but plan to see

I go into movies as cold as possible.

Before seeing Gran Torino, I would have hidden this thread. :hi:

[Iggo]

38. Yep, you're right.

I've been waiting months to see this movie. One wrong click, and now I don't want to see it at all.

Fuck.

[CreekDog]

39. Awww.

But it was still worth seeing. :)

[Iggo]

13. Thanks, idiot.

[driver8]

16. Oh man, that is not cool!

You should edit your post and take the spoiler out of the title.

I have already seen the movie, but a lot of people have not.

[taterguy]

21. Sorry for what?

Please explain what you're apologizing for.

I missed it

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. Oh, I apologize.

Oh, dear. How embarassing.

[taterguy]

25. I am so fucking sorry

[driver8]

26. Ha Ha -- how about a spoiler warning from you???!!

Oops!

[Swede]

27. Come on dude!

This is not a good thing to do.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. That's Fucked Up

The anonymity of the internet provides an outlet for all kinds of aberrant behavior.

[Crazy Dave]

32. Hey! You kids get outta' my yard!

[mitchum]

37. In Larry Clark's "We Skate Hardcore", an actor who looks remarkably...

like Eastwood, shoots an Hispanic kid who is in his backyard

[MrSlayer]

42. Clint is not to be fucked with.

Go ahead, make his day.

[JohnnieGordon]

43. delete

moved post

[JohnnieGordon]

44. I'm so sick of that reich-wing ghoul

He looks like one of the living dead. Time to get rid of the living part.

[MrSlayer]

46. Damn dude, what the hell did he do for you to wish him dead?

I'm a huge fan of his work, I don't care for his politics but he's made some great movies and is an extremely talented man. Why the murderous hate?

[JohnnieGordon]

47. Murderous hate?

This is the lounge, chill out. I don't have to like the same people you do. And not liking his politics is plenty enough reason to dislike him. I have some appreciation for him as a sexy piece of meat, during his bodybuilding period in the late-70s thru mid-80s, before he got too old. But that's as far as any admiration for him goes for me.

[MrSlayer]

49. No one said you had to like the same people I do.

I was just wondering why you wanted the guy dead. I'm totally chilled.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. Both Him And Kirk Douglas Were In Great Shape As Was Sean Connery

I'll stay out of the hate/love debate.

BTW Robert Duval and Jon Voight are right wingers and I like their work.

[JohnnieGordon]

51. Kirk and Sean never did anything for me

But I do have "Any Which Way But Loose" and "Heartbreak Ridge" downloaded for a prurient interest in Clint only. I also have "The Beguiled" downloaded, and that admittedly isn't a bad movie. But I still downloaded it for a prurient interest in Clint, I like that he's the sex object the women are fighting over.

[RandomThoughts]

45. "Don't decorate the front of your bar with my friend."

I like that line, and I like Clint.

:toast:

I almost stopped by his restaurant when I was in the neighborhood. Somehow some way, a person that understands the flaws in himself and others, gets my respect. And he helps me to not judge with his films.

I think the Gauntlet was probably my favorite film.