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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:39 AM Original message |
A challenge for the anti-gun folks |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. off to the Gungeon with you. I carry (responsibly) but... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. I win! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. A winner on the second reply!... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Thank you. |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Except that guy was a drug addict |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Aww, the goal posts moved! n/t |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
127. ROFLMAO! |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. a bit off your intended topic but I challenge the notion of "self defense...." |
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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. "is it justifiable to kill someone in self defense...." |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. no, I'm saying a far more unlikely scenario is unreasonable.... |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Being beaten severely is "petty violence" to you? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. and that's why I support draconian gun control laws.... |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Tough call is just when "petty" turns "serious", and if then it is too late for you to stop it. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. well, my feeling is that killing someone to avoid... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. I am sixty years old. If attacked by someone who is intent on beating me... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Notice Mike's lack of response to your post. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. dude, one person's lack of response is another's... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
83. Just a little fun. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. I'm almost your age too, so I can certainly relate.... |
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Howzit (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #66 |
104. Effectiveness of bans |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #104 |
109. "similar results" |
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Howzit (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #109 |
118. Some people are robbed in the street, others |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. as I was saying |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
110. Nice post Mike - excellent points to think about! nt |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
115. Thanks for your response... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. you may have missed it |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. extending the Commons analogy.... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. The CDC is not honest enough to admit the truth. . . |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. changed your name, have you? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. The CDC is in fact very subject to political pressures... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #66 |
120. Dialogue! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Deleted message |
gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. My response to your scenarios. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. and that's why I will gladly support laws seeking to take your guns away.... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. And that is why violence and homicide in the UK is where it is |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. huh? not sure what you're talking about.... |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Their assaults have gone through the roof |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. and do you attribute that to an insufficient number of guns on the street...? |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Yes I do |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. then how do you explain the utter failure of that proposition in the U.S....? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. There have always been more |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Also, are you fully considering the impact |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I don't think it can be demonstrated |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. hmmmmmmmm |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. .. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. equivocating! |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. If I were |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. uh, no. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Exactly, as it has been for the last |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. if the British are subjects |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Yean, their homicide rate has double in the past 40 years |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I'm still not sure what role you think gun control has in this.... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
105. So you don't think the homicide rate doubling is worth worrying about? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. yeah ... all the way |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Yeah, *gun* crime and homicide in the UK is down or stable |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. see #37.... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
64. you get funnier by the day |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #64 |
106. Aww, so close to relevence |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. eckchewly ... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Still grasping |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. ick |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Swing and a miss |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
87. when you gonna update that? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #87 |
107. Why the boldface? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
54. Thanks for letting us know who you are. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
71. not at all-- I don't avocate taking way your constitutional rights.... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Ok |
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M24PS90 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. I have a better idea..... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Decent folks should never be required to trust in the goodwill of felons. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Your scenarios lack decision-making |
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WWFZD (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. You're an anti, |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. oh I assure you... |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Most "justification" laws include 'use of deadly force is imminent against you or a 3rd person'. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. Except there is no way to know if the impending violence is minor or not |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. Do you have any data which support this contention?... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. not directly-- this sort of thing isn't my field of expertise.... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
57. Minor beatings? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Should women be allowed to use a gun to prevent a rape? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. utter fucking bullshit ... RAPE! RAPE! RAPE! |
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M24PS90 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. Well if you say it is a |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. another fan |
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M24PS90 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I must admit that |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
93. I'm a fan. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
89. actually |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Deleted message |
iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. oh dear |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Deleted message |
iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
111. oh dear! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
80. Back to anger management iverglas. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
84. Sorry Iverglas I meant aren't seriously physically injured. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. phew |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Sorry again. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. you just answered the question, sort of... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. My fault I meant aren't seriously injured. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
85. I appreciate your honesty. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. without a clue, without a care ... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I'd never propose children carrying handguns. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Your link is concerning child rape. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. and now you can try reading the post, if you like |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Read and responded |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I would say it's dishonest to say I did something I didn't do |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Then you do exactly that. |
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Howzit (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
103. "I absolutely abhor the notion that anyone has the right to kill in defense against petty crime" |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. Not really that hard |
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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. He had a gun permit |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Show me the difference |
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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Show you the difference? |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Tell me where you get a permit to own a gun in NC law |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. hope you get an answer |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. NC information. Read if you dare. |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Fair enough. Odd enough. How about for this individual? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. and I'll be the first |
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DemOkie (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. Geez..do I hate to differ with the Mods.. |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. thanks, glad to know about it |
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DemOkie (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
121. Well put.. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
5. Here's why Guns should not be on the dems platform |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. True 'nuff said. (nt) |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. Daddy, where I live, |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here's another... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. And another... |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Yeah, but can you find an example... |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
126. HAH! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. And another... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. There are 4 or 5 examples... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. There have been incidents as has been illustrated here |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
59. a challenge for whoever you are |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
125. HERE YOU GO... |
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