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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:47 PM Original message |
War Enters the Classrooms |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. and the pathetic conclusion.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Since when has one teacher's personal opinion morphed into what the UN teaches?? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. its a bad attitude... |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They can't leave, they can't trade, they have no water to garden.... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. mass non violent protests? |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 03:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Remember Rachel Corrie? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. not much of a "massive protest".... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Deleted message |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. you confuse the larger political picture with individual tragedy.. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Links to massive non violent protests? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. waiting for porcupine... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. You've already said what yr answer would be... |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
92. Play chicken with a bulldozer |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. True. But it happened in the US, the driver would be in jail for muder, not roaming the streets. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Why do you think Palestinians must resist Israel? That would presuppose that Israel is doing |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. of course... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Are you involved in non-violent demonstrations then? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. nope..... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Then don't demand that others protest... |
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cool user name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Try the first intifada ... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. intifada I |
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cool user name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Not all of it was violent ... the first intifada was mainly non-violent. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. not aware of the violence? |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Pelsar, I see you jumped on one aspect of the post you responded to but ignored the rest. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. no problem |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. So, it's their fault, not Israel's. Since Israel is the occupying power and they |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. yes the palestinians have a lot of responsability.... |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. It seems that |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. so explain...as best you can.... |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Why was the pullout made unilaterally? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. no change of topic...just curious |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. The link you gave.... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. its the taba agreement..... |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. don't think so. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. so israel shouldnt have pulled out? |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. so the the aftermath is irrelevant to you? |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Who are you (or any of us) to tell another group of people how to live? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. because its a matter of life and death...ours |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. It's also a matter of life and death for the Palestinians, pelsar... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 03:44 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. i just have a preference ....as do you. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 05:34 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I prefer neither Israelis nor Palestinians be killed... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. so do i...but that doesnt change the situation does it? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-12-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #80 |
96. and it was just getting interesting... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Apache Helicopter gunships have been used on Palestinian protests, |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "massive non violence demonstrations |
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cool user name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Here you go ... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. you've got to be kidding? |
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cool user name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I provided a few links to start you on your way ... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. 3 links...one was to a violent demonstration |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. About Bil'in: Judge: Troops at fence protest were more violent than protesters |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. what does the word "more" mean to you? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. What does this sentence mean to you? |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. fair enough. |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
72. not trying to be nit picking here, really. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Could you point out where that bit was in the article? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I made an assumption based on: |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. No, you made a false claim... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
79. and you just made the same claim.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. No I didn't. You claimed the article was stating school curriculum.. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
3. mis-statement in the article |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Got any more nitpicking handy? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Wording makes a difference |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. Sometimes it does, in this case it didn't... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
73. I'll concede the point |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Because Israel never allowed Palestinian refugees to return to their homes, |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. The Palestinian exception |
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ZacharyG (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. May I ask why |
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cool user name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. May I ask why Diaspora Jews have a right to "return" though many don't have any ties to the land? |
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ZacharyG (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Ask whatever you want |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. I see someone else has answered yr question, so how about answering the question you got asked? |
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ZacharyG (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Nobody answered my question |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. The definition is the answer... |
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ZacharyG (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I never said I agree with Israel's immigration policy |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I never said you did agree, but now I'm going to ask you if you do agree with it... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Link |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Did you bother reading that? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Of course I read it |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. It's pro-Israeli propaganda... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Every country has it's own immigration policy |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. 'What do you care if they are using "biblical authority"? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Your oversimplifying |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. No I'm not... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Israeli citizenship is given to non-jews all the time |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Go back and read the original question... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Israels immigration policy is their business |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. So you keep on saying... |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. It's defined that way by the UN. |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
49. I believe this thread is pointless. It's a dead issue. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. I'm pretty disgusted with the direction some took in this thread... |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. Blame never put food on the table. nt. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. it was those "massive non violent protests... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Can't you take this crap to another thread? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 04:33 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. its not about blaming... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. No, every post of yrs in this thread has played the Blame Game... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-12-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. if you call "blame" asking for the truth/proof...then yes... |
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