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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:20 AM Original message |
Sheetrit: We should level Gaza neighborhoods |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. 'level a neighborhood' would be a war crime. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. never stopped either side before |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. If they should level entire neighbourhoods |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Thanks for asking the obvious |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Well, the Palestinians have already blown up busses, pizza places, and dance clubs |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Considering their death toll is more than 10 times the Israelis...... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. So this is a fairness issue - need to equalize the body counts? nt |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Well, that's deliberately obtuse...........eom. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I'm sorry, are you saying that Palestinians are entitled to kill Israeli civilians? |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. No. But Israelis aren't entitled to kill Palestinian civilians |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. collective punishment of civilians is a war crime.... |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Unfortunately, communal punishment is a tradition. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Shooting rockets at civilians is also a war crime |
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Waya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. When Israel gets back behind its borders......... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Hopefully a two-state solution will be negotiated soon |
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Waya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
84. Does it matter? |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Even if they take their settlers, it's pretty doubtful that much will change |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #66 |
78. Israel withdrew the settlements from the Gaza - and doubled the settlement construction plans in |
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Waya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Maybe no settlers............... anymore, |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
5. just out of curiosity... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Gaza is routinely bombarded, invaded, and leveled. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. wasnt my question.... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. They aren't 'like sitting ducks'. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. its actually a quote.. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. actually only on two sides |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Actually on three sides. |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. You ask the same question in every thread whether it's related to the topic at hand or not. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. and only... |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I think many people have answered, including myself, but you didn't like those answers so you |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. i have yet to see a direct answer |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. They aren't like sitting ducks in a shooting range. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. so the answer is ... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. No the answer is that they are not like ducks in a shooting gallery |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
48. if they arent "sitting ducks"... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. They are misrepresenting their situation. |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. If those "foremost military forces on the planet" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. So, the military acts impotently, or does a strike here or there in response to the rockets. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. yes you obviously do live on a different planet... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Reopen the Rafah border |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. reopen the rafah border... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Did I ever claim that? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. i always like this part.. |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. And I like this 'breaking their legs stuff' - sounds like Rabin all over again.... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. Interpet however you like or need |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Pelsar, you are outrageously disengenuous. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
46. actually they've called for hudna... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. So you admit they've called for hudna. |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Hamas can't control their own "military wing" |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. more on that. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. i think the solution is easy.... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. i do however notice a consistency.... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. That's not what Abunimah is suggesting. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. two possible reasons... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. "only shooting back." |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. by the end of the year there will be agreement on principals |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. How do you respond to Bernard Avishai's reasoned commentary? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. i pretty much agree... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. on the way to work.... |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I will |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. thank you... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. See my response below. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. i was just told.. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Too bad your gov't is perfectly willing to tolerate it to maintain the occupation. |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
52. Never believe what you "..was just told"...... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. well actually.... |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. So are the gun-ships all in the air at 08.00? If not, why not?................. n/t |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. its the A B Cs of the conflict.... |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
77. You speak as though there is only one view "from the ground" |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Simple: accept the fact that there is no military solution to this. Accept the results of a free |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. does hamas agree? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Bullshit. The last "babysteps" resulted in exponential settlement expansion. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I would agree with all of this - with one crucial addition |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. lets check off your points one by one |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Bravo to all points. Well said. nt |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Is there a single point of yours where Israel is not favored? What kind of negotiation |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. what are you talking about |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. well... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. wow.....where did this come from? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. refuting points |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Even weirder is the idea that |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. What would behoove the Israelis to ask to stop the roadblocks and wall |
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Sit-rep (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
86. Palestinians are visiting genocide upon themselves |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
61. The IDF shouldn't be committing the kinds of war crimes Hamas does when it hits civilian centers. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
38. now you see, there are the Wohlmuth-types in the Israeli government |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
82. Razing Rafah:Mass Home Demolitions in the Gaza Strip |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Plus ca change, plus meme. |
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