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demothinker Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:28 AM
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Someone tell me why I should continue to care
I'm an upper middle class straight white male with no children in his late 30's in a liberal state. I have very little to gain from the Democratic party compared to many - women, minorities, the poor, the elderly. So someone help me: If the rest of the country is SO determined to vote against their own interests,

Why should I care any longer about a woman's right to choose?
Why should I care any longer about affirmative action?
Why should I care any longer how illegal aliens are treated?
Why should I care any longer if the eldery get cheap drugs?
Why should I care any longer about the poor getting what they need?
Why should I care any longer if the youth face fighting a war?
Why should I care any longer about the judicial system being biased against the poor and minorities?
Why should I care any longer about homosexual rights and gay marriage?

Someone tell me why I should continue to fight for all these issues that don't directly affect me when the people they do affect won't fight for them? Why?

Damn it...
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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:29 AM
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1. I am in the same boat as you. Why should I care?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 AM
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2. Because it's the right thing to do?
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demothinker Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 AM
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7. That only gets you so far
When you feel like you're banging your head against the brick wall.

I just don't understand why people don't seem to get it.
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Kitka Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 AM
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3. I'd imagine because you're not ready to become a selfish bastard?
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 AM
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4. If Bush wins this election..
soon everyone will know what it's like to live in a "republican utopia". they control all 3 branches of government after all. can't blame this disaster on CLinton anymore.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 AM
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5. Because it burns your biscuits that someone is getting away with it.
That's the motivating factor behind many Democrats. Concern for the OTHER. It's what separates our deeds from the other side.

And concern for justice. Because eroded justice is exponential.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 AM
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6. People did fight for them. Very, very hard.
n/t
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demothinker Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:32 AM
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10. Of course, and I don't mean to minimize that
But from the results, many of those that are affected didn't, and even worse, voted against their own self interests. I just don't get it.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 AM
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8. So we don't kick your butt. Seriously are you going to like * more if you
do?
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:32 AM
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9. Because there are millions of Americans standing with you
Just because the majority is too stupid or scared to vote intelligently, doesn't mean all of us should all be thrown out with the bathwater. The Nazi's didn't make all Germans bad, right? Stay with us, bro. I fit your profile myself, and have no intention of forsaking my compassion for these thieving rat bastards who lay false claim over us.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 AM
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11. How do we really know that you ever did care?
Where's the evidence?
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demothinker Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:34 AM
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13. You don't. You only have my word
If that's not good enough, then c'est la vie.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 AM
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12. Some of those issues directly affect me.
I didn't throw my vote away. Many others didn't either. I am convinced that this election was stolen and that the fascists represent a plurality, not half, not a majority.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:35 AM
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14. You don't have to anymore...forget them like the repugs do, it's all
about making as much money as you can, fuck the little people, fuck the poor, fuck the homosexuals, fuck a womens right to vote, fuck it all.
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demothinker Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:38 AM
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16. Sigh...it's tempting on nights like this
But come tomorrow, I'll be Don Quixote again...just wish I could figure people out.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:37 AM
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15. THIS is why.
First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I did not speak out.

Then they came for the Socialists and the trade unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out.

Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did not speak out.

And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.

Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)



The fight doesn't end tonight.
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NDFan Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:41 AM
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17. I don't know?
Maybe you need to ask YOURSELF those questions.

Most of us here have already formed our answers. And that's why we're Democrats.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:43 AM
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18. I guess you will have to ask yourself
why you ever cared in the first place. That might give you the reason why you should keep caring.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:52 AM
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19. I'm feeling the same way.
I'm a middle aged (though I don't look it! :* ) white female with a good job, a retirement plan, a home.

I don't need education to be funded or help with food stamps or housing, or affirmative action. I won't be the one to suffer if there's a draft. Illegal aliens are not going to take MY job. And my job is not the kind that would be outsourced.

I am wondering the same thing you are. Why the f*ck should I go out of my way to vote for candidates who support these causes, root for the middle class, and do things that actually cost ME money in the long run?

I got a tax cut. I got increased contribution limits to my 401K, thanks to the Repubs. I got increased contribution limits to my Roth IRA. My Repub gov is working on trying to cap property taxes, they've gotten so out of hand. But I think that it's not just about ME. It's about EVERYONE and the country in general. The middle class, which I believe is the engine and backbone of the country.

But just why in the heck should I bother anymore, if the ones who need and use these programs and benefits don't even bother to vote? I hope to heck that Bush DOES start the draft! Maybe then some young punk will think, hey, maybe I shoulda voted or somethin'. Or when the next affirmative action program is done away with, some minority will wonder why this has been allowed to happen. Or when the next nonvoting techie gets outsourced, s/he'll be aghast that this has happened to him/her!

*#^#*@&!

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