Kerry lost it thanks to Teresa???

[alexisfree]

dint mean to be hard on Teresa I love her! but, the fucking Midwest housewives GOT PISS OFF! WHEN she said that Laura Bush never had a "real job."


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[Dookus]

1. you really think

that changed people's votes? I don't. It was a fart in a tornado.

[alexisfree]

3. true....

but very personal for the hillbillies.

[LisaL]

31. It's not just one thing she said.

She is not US born, she is not particularly likable, she looks "foreign" to all those suburban wives. None of which is her fault, but that is just how it is.

[Gut Check]

2. Like Laura has never made a mistake.... n/t

[Nevernose]

4. They hated Teresa before that

Believe it or not, I heard this from several local Democrats. One of them -- a loyal Dem and a friend for several years -- said she was voting for Bush because of Teresa. Didn't "want to see her as first lady, openign her mouth to foreign digniatries" or some such shit like that.

[alexisfree]

6. piss me off !!!!

now in days a woman can not be allowed to be confrontational!!! back to the Taliban régime!

[nonconformist]

8. Hmmm... that woman was no "loyal dem" then.

What a stupid reason to not vote for someone.

[Nevernose]

13. Good point -- USED TO BE a loyal Dem

And she used to be so informed and intelligent. She car pools to work every day with the most articulate and rabidly conservative person I know, though, and I think they may have had something to do with it.

Personally, I think Teresa's my kind of woman.

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

5. Kerry lost it because of stupidity

of the American Sheep who fall for the scary wolf and Die-bold voting machines

[Cha]

29. That's the explanation in

a FUCKING NUTSHELL! :grouphug:

[JI7]

7. she helped bring Pennsylvania to Kerry

[October]

18. We love John and Teresa here in PA

Don't blame me, I'm from PA -- suggested new bumpersticker.

[alexisfree]

22. good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you dont blame, I'm from mexico!!!:evilgrin: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Straight Shooter]

9. Even more voted for Kerry because they hate a doped-up first lady

Xanax-woman didn't exactly present a role model either, not to intelligent women.

And that little strumpet Jenna Bush is big-time evidence of something wrong with the bush family values. Hypocrisy, thy name is bush.

[progressivebydesign]

10. If losing 350 tons of explosives didn't do it.. but Teresa's comment did?

Then we're more fucked up as a nation than I thought.

[Tomee450]

11. amen!!

[Nevernose]

15. Sorry to be the one to break this to you, Caliphoto

But we ARE.
:(

[alexisfree]

16. lol

yes is "the redneck logic rule"

[LisaM]

12. I got a remarkably snotty email about the Heinz corporation

from a Republican I know, about eight days ago.

I answered him today and asked him, now that the world is safe from ketchup, what about Halliburton?

I also asked him why everyone wasn't freaked out when John Heinz was a Republican senator working on global trade issues.

Needless to say, he hasn't reponded.

[zappaman]

14. I hate to say this

but I actually had 2 co-workers(both women) who said something along the lines of "I can't stand that loudmouth wife of his."

As if that were a legitimate reason not to vote for him.

DCs-the both of them.

[alexisfree]

20. ignorant bitches!!

bring them to me I have long nails!!!!:evilgrin:

[yardwork]

17. You're missing the point. The Republicans demonize their opponents.

If it hadn't been Teresa, it would have been something or somebody else. They demonized Kerry, a decorated war hero. They demonize their opponents. We can't beat them by picking "safe" candidates. That's just playing their game.

We have to expose the stinking, lying strategies that the Republicans use to demonize our candidates.

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

33. They would demonize Christ too

people just need to see the hypocrisy

[d_b]

19. One of my Aunts

didn't vote for Kerry because he married the wife of one of his friends. As sad as that is.

[nonconformist]

21. It's excuses. That's all it is.

They have to justify their vote somehow. They can't just come out and admit they're totally clueless on the issues, or that they're big old BIGOTS, or that they're RACISTS who want all Arabs and Muslims to die, or that they HATE AMERICA and don't want to pay taxes. They have to come up with some reason to explain why they support fascism.

BTW - I'm a stay-at-home mother myself and I wasn't offended by Teresa's comments. To be fair, even if Laura had said them I wouldn't care. Apparently they didn't care enough to know that Teresa herself stayed home to raise her children. Teresa a spitfire who speaks candidly and it was refreshing to see in the world of politics. But in today's Amerika, any woman who isn't a Stepford wife is clearly a vile piece of flesh.

[prayin4rain]

23. My republican friend who is a WOMAN

said she didn't like Kerry because Teresea wears the pants in the family. A WOMAN said this. I was just beside myself. You know what if that is why they didn't vote for him...fine.

[yardwork]

27. The people who don't like Teresa were told not to like her

The bush campaign bombarded people with messages - blatant to subtle - that Teresa was unlikeable. Weak-minded people picked up the mantra and spread it further.

The message went out - Teresa is bad, Laura is good. People believed it because they were told to believe it.

If Laura had been married to John Kerry in this campaign, then we would have heard all about Laura's bad habits.

Please understand this. I watched Jesse Helms do this for decades in North Carolina. We have to stop the manipulation of the media and the demonization of our candidates.

[catbert836]

24. I wish people would stop blaming Teresa

as well as Kerry and Edwards. This election was decided after 9/11, and its not their fault we lost.

[alexisfree]

25. lets re open 9-11reports!

[sandersadu]

30. Cultural Marker

I know everyone around here likes to praise a "strong woman" me included, but the simple fact is that she was a metaphor - - for all the things many people in the "heartland" don't like about liberals, and her in particular:

(1) snobbish
(2) "likes furriners"
(3) Opinionated
(4) Culturally out of step
(5) I could go on, but you get the point.

Knowing that she had that effect on people, better to not feature her so prominently IMO. People shouldn't vote for the president based on his wife, but they do. It's called "values." We can ignore it, or we can realize it and work around it. Simple as that.

[Danmel]

26. Eleanor Roosevelt would be demonized today

Could you imagine if FDR ran today? Beside his medical condition, he had a loud mouth opinionated wife too and she wasn't (OMG) pretty!

The media and the right wing would rip ELeanor to shreds. Think of what we would have lost and what welikely lost this time.

This neaderthal country of ours will never elect a woman- they can't stand smart women or smart men for that matter. I can't stand it.

[LisaL]

28. I can't help but wonder if Kerry had a more likable wife

could he have won? Let's face it, Teresa just wasn't "likable".
But that is neither here nor there.

[LisaM]

32. I don't think Teresa could be more likable

I love her, and would like to be like her. She was adored by two strong, handsome, powerful, intellectual men, who both married her. Does that threaten you?

[LisaL]

36. Why insults? I am not talking about myself liking her or not liking her.

I am talking about comments I heard about her. Not positive comments.
:eyes:
And yes, bigots don't like someone with an accent.

[sonicx]

39. it's strange. i thought she was very sweet and cute while doing her stump

speeches. i don't get the unlikable thing

[LisaM]

44. You said she was not likable!!!!

Maybe you were quoting, but you did say "if Kerry had a more likable wife..."

[sonicx]

34. i liked her

she's very sweet-sounding on the stump.

[sgtyellerdawg]

35. "Real job" comment

I had two teacher friends of mine tell me they voted for Bush because of the "real job" comment - they said she insulted teachers. Shallow, but true. I would imagine that was how a lot of people felt.

I also had two freeper friends say they did not want a non-American born first lady who has an accent- I can not wait until they trot out AHHHNULD for Prez if he gets the chance to run. I will certainly make a point of reminding them of their stupid "accents in the White House" comment...

:wtf:

Personally I thought Theresa would be lots of fun the next four years...

[sonicx]

37. the real job comment was misunderstood

some say she offended librarians and teachers. no, she FORGOT that laura had those jobs.

some say she offended stay at home moms. I disagree, it's clear she meant paying vs non-paying job. perhaps 'real' was the wrong word to use.

[sgtyellerdawg]

43. The comment

The comment was edited out by the media - all anyone heard was "she never held a real job..." and that sealed the deal...I think it was Olberman who played the whole clip first as all I saw on the other outlets was the edited one...and just like the "stay home and bake cookies" comment by Hillary this one was used for all its worth.

I do not blame Theresa for the loss - we turned out 55 million but the fundies had a better plan and the "fear & queer" thing trumped anything any of us - short of capturing OBL - could have done.

[2Design]

38. BS - she was a treasure and if that is the reason then they

don't deserve such a good warm hearted person - laura bush is a stepford wife and awful

[ElsewheresDaughter]

40. get real! Kerry lost because of .....VOTER SUPRESSION IN OHIO!!!

THAT IS A FACT>>>>>VOTER SUPPRESSION IN OHIO

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

42. & a little Die-Bold sprinkled in?

:eyes: ya think? maybe..

[Malva Zebrina]

41. Housewives? Have women now gone back to that designation?

Maybe I am too far out of it. I thought housewives were supported solely by their husbands while they cooked and cleaned seven days a week and raised children and were honored on Mother's Day for their slavery. Maybe it changed when I was not looking.