Nancy Waterman
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:51 PM
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URGENT READ: How the fraud works with the punch card machines |
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A friend of mine explains here how the fraud works with the punch card machines. The story was supposed to break in Vanity Fair but they backed out at the last minute. CBS was also supposed to carry it but passed on it at the last minute. Please pass this along to anyone who might be able to follow up on it.
WHAT HAPPENED IN FLORIDA 2000
I was involved in uncovering some serious irregularities that occurred in Florida's 2000 election. At the time, we had neither the mandate nor the resources to conduct a further investigation.
Based on the irregularities we found, we concluded that an election equipment manufacturing company called Election Systems and Software deliberately supplied different types of paper ballots to predominately Democratic Counties than were supplied to predominately Republican Counties. The differences, which are nearly impossible to ascertain without sophisticated tests, resulted in the statistically high number of undervotes or hanging chads in Democratic areas.
Apparently the same type of punch card technology was used in both Democratic and Republican counties yet there were never any statistical abnormalities in the Republican counties. We believe this was not by accident but by design and this action was sufficient to alter the election results. Without noticeable difference, punch cards can differ by the direction of the grain in the paper and by the amount of pressure used by the production machine that scores the cards for the rectangular punch holes.
This does not appear to have been an isolated situation in Florida, but a pattern of illegality that has been occurring for several years in key races nationwide and possibly in several foreign countries.
For two years we have been waiting for a major network news operation to break the story. Even though they had given us their word, they postponed the airdate three times. As we have seen what could be a repeat of this pattern in the 2004 election, we believe it is imperative to alert the public, since we are doubtful that the network program will ever be shown.
Our concern is that these same individuals have attempted a similar action in 2004 with paper ballots in those counties that are still using them, as well as with versions of optical scan and electronic touchscreens. Adding to this concern is a unique bond between ESS and the other major manufacturer of election equipment, Diebold. Two brothers who began ESS now run both Diebold's Election Division and ESS and together account for the lion's share of the market in the United States.
The way it would work was this: County Election Supervisors are often overworked and quite overwhelmed at times. The ESS sales representative would stop by and offer to print the county ballots for a very competitive fee. Many times the Supervisor would go ahead as it would be much easier than preparing all the specs for an outside printer since ESS knows the exact specifications for their machines. Once ESS got the order, each ballot lot was assigned numerical codes. Certain lots were manufactured one way and others a different way. Electron microscopic tests seem to indicate that one of the indentations was not as deep as the others in the Gore chad. This would allow it to "hang" or even curl back up thus resulting in an undervote.
As to the approaches used in the optical scan, touch screen machines and even the software used in the machines that count the punch cards, I would have to defer to others and their expertise.
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:56 PM
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1. There were no punch cards in Florida for the 2004 elections |
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They were all replaced with touch-screens, in the more democratic counties to the south and optical scanners, in the more republican counties in the central and northern part of the state.
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Thu Nov-04-04 10:58 PM
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2. There were punch card machines in Ohio in 2004 |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 10:59 PM by Nancy Waterman
Check out the latest Greg Palst expose about how they left lots of hanging chads in the poor Democratic areas just like in Florida in 2000. http://gregpalast.com/index.cfm
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Thu Nov-04-04 11:10 PM
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3. Does anyone have stats yet |
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showing county by county results and the types of machines they used?
Someone did this for the Florida numbers and it is very revealing, to say the least.
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Thu Nov-04-04 11:15 PM
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4. I don't know about stats |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 11:34 PM by Nancy Waterman
I only know Palast pointed out the similarities about mostly African American voters having more of these "hanging chads" and how it is pretty suspicious. The idea of the paper in the machines being tampered with subtly makes a lot of sense as a way to do the voter suppression with few footprints.
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